karatemike's challenges recap , i find it actually the most well designed

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  • ShiroMikazukiShiroMikazuki Member Posts: 515 ★★★

    Jack2634 said:

    Well, i might get hated a lot for saying this, but i have just finished both in under 50 rev combined (31 and 18 respectively). And that number is because i am terrible and fked up a lot. Zemo literally have a way to deal with every single bosses. Literally no boss should take you 3 or more revive if played perfectly .

    Btw, thank you a lot @Karatemike415 , i got this beautiful dude from completing your challenges. I hope you will buy me a drink if we somehow meet each other irl lol

    Come to Brawl next time it happens - not only will I buy you a drink, but two whole slices of pizza as well 🍻

    Awesome work, my man!! Absolutely love to see it.
    I’d personally buy him a drink, 2 slices of pizza and a back stage pass vip for that comment 😉
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,370 ★★★★★
    Milan1405 said:

    Polygon said:

    Milan1405 said:

    ChriissR said:

    His challenges were never even that bad. People really just needed someone to complain about. Fintech definitely has the hardest challenges. People really forget how awful Carinas Vol 1 & 2 were 😂

    However, I disagree with design philosophy of his other challenge which requires a highly ranked Zemo. I R5ed and ascended my zemo so hopefully it shouldn't be too bad for me if I skill up with him. But I really don't like challenges that force you to use 1 singular champion, because if you don't like playing them (which is completely understandable in a game with 200+ champions) is it really fair to ask someone to rank them up highly and possibly ascend them to do a challenge that they will do worse at anyway because they don't even like playing them?

    For example, I don't really like playing antman or black widow, so I'll just use them where absolutely necessary and then use iron man, thor and hawkeye for all other possible fights, and I really enjoy playing all of them. That seems fair enough to me. But I don't get KarateMike's reasoning that: "allowing players to bring a team of this champion of x other champion(s) wouldn't fit the theme of carina challenges". Yes, they have always been specific, but I do think there is such a thing as 'too specific'. I really don't see anything wrong with a challenge saying use either a team containing only baron zemo or a team containing some other specific champion.


    Lagacy, you smashed it out the park though mate.
    I agree with you and I think Mike completely missed the mark with his Zemo objective because of how it forces you to invest in one single champ. If it was at least a good champ like Tigra, it wouldn’t be as bad. But most people with common sense would r5 a Kate, Nick, Valkyrie,Aegon (for Necro), Stealthy for (BGs) before a champ that isn’t even close to being the best at anything. Hell, I’d even rank 5 my 6* korg before zemo.

    We get it, the Zemo propaganda has been an ongoing thing, but just because you enjoy the champ, doesnt mean it should be imposed on us. Let us at least be able to use another champ. I’m pretty sure MSDs was high ranked and he still used a lot of revives doing the challenge

    Also, I seriously think people are overstating how easy it is to get r4 mats. I’m valiant and i still need to buy them from BGs shop because I have a lot of champs I need to rank.

    We could’ve at least had r4 mats in the challenges to offset the mandatory ranking of Zemo
    “Zemo propaganda”…please, enlighten me. Tell me how a champ that:

    1. Cleanses debuffs
    2. When his Cleanse charges run out he roots them.
    3. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite Bleed debuff with every hit.
    4. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite passive Decelerate, reducing ability accuracy of Evade and Unstoppable by 50%. 2x means 100%.
    5. When he roots them he reduces their Combat Power Rate and increases his own by 40%.
    6. When he roots them his sp1 inflicts 10 indefinite Bleed debuffs.
    7. Oh AND the sp1 always applies an indefinite 25% Disorient passive which also stacks up to 4x (100%).
    7. His sp2 inflicts root.
    8. If the defender is immune to whatever debuff he tries to inflict (including Parry Stun), his next hit triples in attack rating due to a Fury.
    9. His sig ability increases crit damage rating and crit rating.
    10. His self synergy increases the potency of his bleeds by 50%, per Zemo. 200% more potency with a full team.

    Isn’t good. I’ll wait.

    Mike used 13 revives on his Zemo run. On his free to play account, MSD used 10. Check your facts.

    Just because you don’t understand a champ and refuse to learn, doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the most powerful champs in the game, especially in content they’re designed for like Gauntlet. “Propaganda”…don’t talk if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Rank up Zemo because he’s a ridiculously good champ, not because he’s required for the challenge. He’s required for the challenge because he’s a ridiculously good champ.
    Bro trying to enforce Zemo on people who don't like him. Leave MSD be, he is never an option to compare the masses.
    Nagase a top player, did his run with r3 Zemo and 5*Zemo. He is a massive whale too, with no shortage of resources and he chose not to upgrade. He did not complain one bit, this is what I saw. Which is exactly what I'm going to do. It's a single challenge and I'll use items instead of upgrading.

    Here's the flip side of the coin you are tossing.
    The complains are not from people who alredy like and have him R5 ascended, the complains are from people who don't like or want to upgrade zemo and are given no option to do 1 hard challange with 1 champ exclusively.
    ...

    Here you are proving the propoganda right, funny. It's 1 single champ, the defenders of Zemo train is what makes all this more annoying, not the champ himself. You'll never seen anyone overhyping or defending a mojo or a tigra like this. Zemo toxicity can be compared to what Elsa and moleGod people did at one time. Were they wrong? No. Were they annoying, you bet they were.

    I like the challanges. Got somthing to plan after necro. Rewards are not the level they should be, but it is what it is. People like to do things their way. Gauntlet is one the Best fun Quest in the game. Apart from 1-2 specific fights, 80% of EOP is fun too. Avengers challange is good, fun underrated champs with thier lesser known abilities unlike your hyper duper mega super titan god uber tier Zemo.
    EOP ain't fun with Mojo, friend.
    Outside of Warlock and Terrax I actually enjoyed it
  • FinalfurykFinalfuryk Member Posts: 330 ★★★
    I haven't really seen Zemo defenders being annoying at all. What I have seen is a Napa Valley level of whine about a creator asked to make something hard and doing that with a spin on a rarely used synergy. Each creator chose a champ(s) they liked (Starkey, Tigra/Mojo, Zemo) and made challenges around them. If anything, Mike was the only one who made a challenge not based on champs he likes and instead chose to do something interesting with a wide variety of rarely used characters with his Avengers challenge.

    Also Kabam gave all Paragon and higher players (who this challenge was designed for) a six star Zemo over cyber week and at least a five star Zemo this month for free so you can't even complain about hunting him. Sure, he costs rank resources but so does every character required for a specific high level challenge. I didn't see this amount of complaining from all the people who ranked the various Guillotine incarnations just to get her deathless piece.

    Now having said all of that, Karate Mike has been leaning into the outrage this entire time so I understand some of the hate he has been getting. Its not death threat worthy obviously, but I understand people being pissed at him for making hard content. To pretend that its not the same level of fairness as any other Everest content in the game is silly though.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,554 ★★★★★
    Does turning suicides on help for the Zemo challenge?
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