Sandman and Dust

Okay so.... The debuff which Dust applies on the attacker is.... Sand and hear me out, We got a guy named sandman.... Guess what??He's made of sand.... Still he gets damaged by sand... so basically my guy is running a suicide mastery without any benefits. What is the reason behind that? Is he not immune to the thing he's made of?? or you gonna say that the sand of a mutant and a science champ is different..?? And don't get me wrong, sandman is a good champ at least to me, but this dust and sandman interaction doesn't make sense.

Anyone with a decent reason for this "feature" ?

Comments

PT_99

The fact that sandman is newly released character and instead of making some new design we got SAND 🥴
Makes no sense. But whatever.

Rookiie

Sandman came out before Dust. Do you expect Kabam to create immunities for abilities that aren’t even out? Do you realize how dumb that would have looked? And do you realize how niche your ask is? You want Sandman to become a direct champion ability counter which honestly reduces his value more than anything else.

Kirberus_

Sandman came out before Dust. Do you expect Kabam to create immunities for abilities that aren’t even out? Do you realize how dumb that would have looked? And do you realize how niche your ask is? You want Sandman to become a direct champion ability counter which honestly reduces his value more than anything else.

At least do something to make him a decent counter to the very thing he's made of?? How does that reduce his value?? he already has a good kit and I use him in my own roster and love the guy. Who said they should've made him immune from the start? when the champ (dust) released the could've also stated that sandman has some sort of resistance or immunity? You're basically saying that a champ will reduce his value for being a counter to a character who's damage is unavoidable despite having immunity to other things and also having a kit well suited for some nodes ?

Rookiie

Sandman came out before Dust. Do you expect Kabam to create immunities for abilities that aren’t even out? Do you realize how dumb that would have looked? And do you realize how niche your ask is? You want Sandman to become a direct champion ability counter which honestly reduces his value more than anything else.
At least do something to make him a decent counter to the very thing he's made of?? How does that reduce his value?? he already has a good kit and I use him in my own roster and love the guy. Who said they should've made him immune from the start? when the champ (dust) released the could've also stated that sandman has some sort of resistance or immunity? You're basically saying that a champ will reduce his value for being a counter to a character who's damage is unavoidable despite having immunity to other things and also having a kit well suited for some nodes ?

Bingo you answered my question. He already has 3 immunities and a kit very well designed for some nodes. Would you rather Kabam have created his kit to counter Dust only? You can’t have it all. Pick one. So yes his value would have been diminished.

And, Kabam can’t jump around like monkeys retrofitting champs just because it makes sense in one forum user’s head. Do you even know how development companies operate?

Noob_Master69

Sandman came out before Dust. Do you expect Kabam to create immunities for abilities that aren’t even out? Do you realize how dumb that would have looked? And do you realize how niche your ask is? You want Sandman to become a direct champion ability counter which honestly reduces his value more than anything else.
At least do something to make him a decent counter to the very thing he's made of?? How does that reduce his value?? he already has a good kit and I use him in my own roster and love the guy. Who said they should've made him immune from the start? when the champ (dust) released the could've also stated that sandman has some sort of resistance or immunity? You're basically saying that a champ will reduce his value for being a counter to a character who's damage is unavoidable despite having immunity to other things and also having a kit well suited for some nodes ?

Bingo you answered my question. He already has 3 immunities and a kit very well designed for some nodes. Would you rather Kabam have created his kit to counter Dust only? You can’t have it all. Pick one. So yes his value would have been diminished.

And, Kabam can’t jump around like monkeys retrofitting champs just because it makes sense in one forum user’s head. Do you even know how development companies operate?

To be fair, they have done stuff like this in the past, making Mag's immune to Emma Frost's reverse control(before any tags or immunities were added)
Making it so that Havok and Cyclops can't damage each other with thei specials
Warlock having an interaction with Cable because of his virus and giving him charges every second
Probably more that I'm forgetting.

So it doesn't feel outside of the realm of possibilities for them to make Sandman immune to dust, or something like that

Rookiie

Sandman came out before Dust. Do you expect Kabam to create immunities for abilities that aren’t even out? Do you realize how dumb that would have looked? And do you realize how niche your ask is? You want Sandman to become a direct champion ability counter which honestly reduces his value more than anything else.
At least do something to make him a decent counter to the very thing he's made of?? How does that reduce his value?? he already has a good kit and I use him in my own roster and love the guy. Who said they should've made him immune from the start? when the champ (dust) released the could've also stated that sandman has some sort of resistance or immunity? You're basically saying that a champ will reduce his value for being a counter to a character who's damage is unavoidable despite having immunity to other things and also having a kit well suited for some nodes ?

Bingo you answered my question. He already has 3 immunities and a kit very well designed for some nodes. Would you rather Kabam have created his kit to counter Dust only? You can’t have it all. Pick one. So yes his value would have been diminished.

And, Kabam can’t jump around like monkeys retrofitting champs just because it makes sense in one forum user’s head. Do you even know how development companies operate?
To be fair, they have done stuff like this in the past, making Mag's immune to Emma Frost's reverse control(before any tags or immunities were added)
Making it so that Havok and Cyclops can't damage each other with thei specials
Warlock having an interaction with Cable because of his virus and giving him charges every second
Probably more that I'm forgetting.

So it doesn't feel outside of the realm of possibilities for them to make Sandman immune to dust, or something like that

Let Kabam decide that then, I’d prefer that instead of this:

Rayven5220

Sandman should absolutely be immune to sand debunks...

The dude is literally made of freaking sand! How's my guy taking damage from sand when he's literally made of sand?!?

Graves_3

Sandman should absolutely be immune to sand debunks...

The dude is literally made of freaking sand! How's my guy taking damage from sand when he's literally made of sand?!?

It took them a long time to make Iceman immune to coldsnap and frost bite. Maybe they will realize their folly and fix sandman at a future update.

Magrailothos

Sandman should absolutely be immune to sand debunks...

The dude is literally made of freaking sand! How's my guy taking damage from sand when he's literally made of sand?!?

You know who else is made of sand?

Dust is.

And someone else who isn't 'immune to Sand debuffs'...

Dust isn't.

Why is everyone in this thread freaking out about Sandman not being immune, and no-one seems bothered that Dust isn't immune to her own ability, either?

Two champions that both have sand-based powers can interfere with each other's abilities. Why is that so hard to accept?

Having similar powers doesn't mean being immune to those powers. Dust's powers get hijacked by a swarm of Ultron nanites in this month's EQ. Why can't Dust do the same thing to Sandman, and hijack some of his Sand particles? Or vice-versa?

Professor X and Emma Frost both have telepathic powers, and they aren't completely immune to each others abilities, either. Emma can be mind-controlled or Faltered; Prof X can be Taunted. They'll both prevent the other one Evading on a Mixmaster node.

Priyabrata

I mean it would be a great easter egg if he were

MasterAKUMA

The og Ghost Rider didn't have incinerate immunity until the CGR came out. So, you know, that's Kabam

Vegeta9001

It took literal years for Hellfire characters to be incinerate immune and iceman to be coldsnap immune. Don't bank on this for a while.