Onslaught rebalance?

Repto23Repto23 Member Posts: 803 β˜…β˜…β˜…
Could someone please inform me of when we will know if Onslaught is going to get rebalanced. I pulled him as a 7* from act 8 and took him to r3 before realizing we haven’t been told if he is safe yet 😬

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  • SamanunSamanun Member Posts: 717 β˜…β˜…β˜…
    He’s safe
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,182 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Repto23 said:

    Could someone please inform me of when we will know if Onslaught is going to get rebalanced. I pulled him as a 7* from act 8 and took him to r3 before realizing we haven’t been told if he is safe yet 😬

    We wont know yet as the info hasnt came out yet u will know when out as it be a recent post on top that moves across posts and it be the first ost
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,735 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    I don't think they're touching Ol' iron abs Krabs
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,088 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,502 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    edited April 17

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He has a lot of good matchups if you play well. He’s just punishing if you mess up even a little. I’ve taken him with Silk, Titania, Hulk, Sersi, and Hulkling, and I’ve seen people nuke him with Shocker, Havok, and Werewolf
  • ThePredator1001ThePredator1001 Member Posts: 962 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Honestly if they just remove the crush passive I would happy. It only comes into effect when defending and having to try and manage it with all the other effects happening feels like abit too much. But I wouldn’t want them to change anything else, I love using him on attack.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    edited April 17

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,502 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    Yup those are good shouts. I think Onslaught perfectly fits the 5/5 defender strength that he was given by Kabam. A lot of champs can take him, but he’s very easy to slip up against. I forgot about crush once and got wrecked and he’s caught me dashing back with the sp1 before and it’s just game over after that. Very challenging but not impossible is where he lands so I hope they leave him alone lol
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,088 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    How FAM RG warlock mysterio or ironheart can take him in full health? They inevitably gonna get neuroshock and it will deal damage.

    The problem is, you're going to get unavoidable damage most of the times + crush messes up with your rotation + non parryable by most. He just has a lot in his kit. There should be a way to prevent his neuroshocks, like apply x effect (cowardice/heal block/suppression) and he removes a neuroshock (like dust remove sand on incen/plasma). This reduces his value a little, but still he will be a very annoying (probably best mutant if not for kitty) in the game .
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,502 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    How FAM RG warlock mysterio or ironheart can take him in full health? They inevitably gonna get neuroshock and it will deal damage.

    The problem is, you're going to get unavoidable damage most of the times + crush messes up with your rotation + non parryable by most. He just has a lot in his kit. There should be a way to prevent his neuroshocks, like apply x effect (cowardice/heal block/suppression) and he removes a neuroshock (like dust remove sand on incen/plasma). This reduces his value a little, but still he will be a very annoying (probably best mutant if not for kitty) in the game .
    My last comment got sent to the shadow realm, so I was going to say that you’re right about a lot of those champs not being able to take him with full health. Some can come out very healthy or nuke him down fast, but they will take damage. Neuroshock was always intended to be an effect that no champ can be immune to and his defender strength is maxed (5/5, stronger than champs like Bullseye and on par with Serpent).
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,088 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Emilia90 said:

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    How FAM RG warlock mysterio or ironheart can take him in full health? They inevitably gonna get neuroshock and it will deal damage.

    The problem is, you're going to get unavoidable damage most of the times + crush messes up with your rotation + non parryable by most. He just has a lot in his kit. There should be a way to prevent his neuroshocks, like apply x effect (cowardice/heal block/suppression) and he removes a neuroshock (like dust remove sand on incen/plasma). This reduces his value a little, but still he will be a very annoying (probably best mutant if not for kitty) in the game .
    Not with full health, but they can come out fairly healthy depending on how you play and how lucky you are. Neuroshocks aren’t supposed to be preventable, that was one of the core aspects of his kit discusses by Kabam. His defender strength is 5/5 for a reason (higher than champs like bullseye and on par with serpent).
    So what now? We have to wait for 2 years to get a neuroshock counter? Or Now Kabam starts to make tech champs as "non-metals" to counter onslaught. This is gonna be vicious cycle.

    Onslaught is intended to be a great defender, I agree. But he just isn't a healthy defender. The closest champ I can think who inflicts unavoidable damage is terrax, but you can play around him by maintaining distance.
    Champs are meant to be either countered by skill or counters. Onslaught can't be countered with neither. Can't use metals.Non metals can remove his neuroshock one at a time, good. But again there are other bs mechanics to deal with.

    Or the least, Metal champs should be allowed to purify debuffs as well (but that goes against his character powers). So the best way is to apply a effect, remove/shut down neursochoks. Like Maestro vulnerable to soul barb or Dust vulnerable to incenerate.

    Cowardice would be a good idea. Only 5 champs inflict it (Nimmy, OS, Infamous Ironman, Psychoboy, Cap Sam). It won't reduce his defensive value by a mile or something. Nimrod ain't a ideal option too since you have actually bait a special first(you may get some neuroshocks before that).

    He is just too punishing, Even bullseye has few champs who shut all his mechanics completely. Onslaught don't have any.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    edited April 17

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    How FAM RG warlock mysterio or ironheart can take him in full health? They inevitably gonna get neuroshock and it will deal damage.

    The problem is, you're going to get unavoidable damage most of the times + crush messes up with your rotation + non parryable by most. He just has a lot in his kit. There should be a way to prevent his neuroshocks, like apply x effect (cowardice/heal block/suppression) and he removes a neuroshock (like dust remove sand on incen/plasma). This reduces his value a little, but still he will be a very annoying (probably best mutant if not for kitty) in the game .
    Any of those champs can finish with over 90% if you're dashing back constantly and purifying neuros, nothing special.
    I've used all of these already (except Ironheart don't have her) and you almost never get more than two neuros on you per five hit combo. If you're doing four hits dashing back and light intercepting the whole fight you're constantly purifying neuros and the damage is minimal (certainly not enough to warrant a nerf) the problem is people aren't used to fighting him this way and instead they choose to try to nuke him down in 30 secs. You have to be patient when you fight Onslaught, you only lose a ton of health when you're extremely aggressive and get more neuros on you than purify them.
    You need to be constantly dashing back after every combo to keep the neuro damage under control. If you're not doing this yes the damage is ridiculous and none of the champs I mentioned will work but if you do, it's 100% doable.

    Btw for RG, it's right here first fight in this video:
    https://youtu.be/YVq2WeowJ8Q?si=NkOxjdj-MNlfYkS5
    Video nobody bothered watching cause they're still stuck on the Titania Hulk hype train lmao
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    How FAM RG warlock mysterio or ironheart can take him in full health? They inevitably gonna get neuroshock and it will deal damage.

    The problem is, you're going to get unavoidable damage most of the times + crush messes up with your rotation + non parryable by most. He just has a lot in his kit. There should be a way to prevent his neuroshocks, like apply x effect (cowardice/heal block/suppression) and he removes a neuroshock (like dust remove sand on incen/plasma). This reduces his value a little, but still he will be a very annoying (probably best mutant if not for kitty) in the game .
    Any of those champs can finish with over 90% if you're dashing back constantly and purifying neuros, nothing special.
    I've used all of these already (except Ironheart don't have her) and you almost never get more than two neuros on you per five hit combo. If you're doing four hits dashing back and light intercepting the whole fight you're constantly purifying neuros and the damage is minimal (certainly not enough to warrant a nerf) the problem is people aren't used to fighting him this way and instead they choose to try to nuke him down in 30 secs. You have to be patient when you fight Onslaught, you only lose a ton of health when you're extremely aggressive and get more neuros on you than purify them.
    You need to be constantly dashing back after every combo to keep the neuro damage under control. If you're not doing this yes the damage is ridiculous and none of the champs I mentioned will work but if you do, it's 100% doable.

    Btw for RG, it's right here first fight in this video:
    https://youtu.be/YVq2WeowJ8Q?si=NkOxjdj-MNlfYkS5
    Video nobody bothered watching cause they're still stuck on the Titania Hulk hype train lmao
    I don't want this to get sent to the shadow realm so I'll just make another comment lol
    @captain_rogers watch the first fight and look at the neuro damage, barely any damage cause he was constantly dashing back and light intercepting. You need to adapt your playstyle to his abilities, that's all there is to Onslaught really.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,182 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    I’m predicting he won’t get nerfed since Photon and Kindred didn’t get nerfed. Kabam likes OP defenders
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,088 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    How FAM RG warlock mysterio or ironheart can take him in full health? They inevitably gonna get neuroshock and it will deal damage.

    The problem is, you're going to get unavoidable damage most of the times + crush messes up with your rotation + non parryable by most. He just has a lot in his kit. There should be a way to prevent his neuroshocks, like apply x effect (cowardice/heal block/suppression) and he removes a neuroshock (like dust remove sand on incen/plasma). This reduces his value a little, but still he will be a very annoying (probably best mutant if not for kitty) in the game .
    Any of those champs can finish with over 90% if you're dashing back constantly and purifying neuros, nothing special.
    I've used all of these already (except Ironheart don't have her) and you almost never get more than two neuros on you per five hit combo. If you're doing four hits dashing back and light intercepting the whole fight you're constantly purifying neuros and the damage is minimal (certainly not enough to warrant a nerf) the problem is people aren't used to fighting him this way and instead they choose to try to nuke him down in 30 secs. You have to be patient when you fight Onslaught, you only lose a ton of health when you're extremely aggressive and get more neuros on you than purify them.
    You need to be constantly dashing back after every combo to keep the neuro damage under control. If you're not doing this yes the damage is ridiculous and none of the champs I mentioned will work but if you do, it's 100% doable.

    Btw for RG, it's right here first fight in this video:
    https://youtu.be/YVq2WeowJ8Q?si=NkOxjdj-MNlfYkS5
    Video nobody bothered watching cause they're still stuck on the Titania Hulk hype train lmao
    I don't want this to get sent to the shadow realm so I'll just make another comment lol
    @captain_rogers watch the first fight and look at the neuro damage, barely any damage cause he was constantly dashing back and light intercepting. You need to adapt your playstyle to his abilities, that's all there is to Onslaught really.
    Idk bout neuroshocks but I should've ranked Red guardian over scorp only if I've seen a week agoπŸ˜”.
  • MadGodOryxMadGodOryx Member Posts: 76 β˜…
    Onslaught isnt gonna get nerfed. Not because he isnt bonkers OP on defense, he is, and thats why he’s not getting touched. Kabam wants stupid hard defenders that carve away massive chunks of life if you arent perfect.
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,178 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Leave my onslaught alone!

    Especially you @captain_rogers, you'll pull him soon bro!
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    How FAM RG warlock mysterio or ironheart can take him in full health? They inevitably gonna get neuroshock and it will deal damage.

    The problem is, you're going to get unavoidable damage most of the times + crush messes up with your rotation + non parryable by most. He just has a lot in his kit. There should be a way to prevent his neuroshocks, like apply x effect (cowardice/heal block/suppression) and he removes a neuroshock (like dust remove sand on incen/plasma). This reduces his value a little, but still he will be a very annoying (probably best mutant if not for kitty) in the game .
    Any of those champs can finish with over 90% if you're dashing back constantly and purifying neuros, nothing special.
    I've used all of these already (except Ironheart don't have her) and you almost never get more than two neuros on you per five hit combo. If you're doing four hits dashing back and light intercepting the whole fight you're constantly purifying neuros and the damage is minimal (certainly not enough to warrant a nerf) the problem is people aren't used to fighting him this way and instead they choose to try to nuke him down in 30 secs. You have to be patient when you fight Onslaught, you only lose a ton of health when you're extremely aggressive and get more neuros on you than purify them.
    You need to be constantly dashing back after every combo to keep the neuro damage under control. If you're not doing this yes the damage is ridiculous and none of the champs I mentioned will work but if you do, it's 100% doable.

    Btw for RG, it's right here first fight in this video:
    https://youtu.be/YVq2WeowJ8Q?si=NkOxjdj-MNlfYkS5
    Video nobody bothered watching cause they're still stuck on the Titania Hulk hype train lmao
    I don't want this to get sent to the shadow realm so I'll just make another comment lol
    @captain_rogers watch the first fight and look at the neuro damage, barely any damage cause he was constantly dashing back and light intercepting. You need to adapt your playstyle to his abilities, that's all there is to Onslaught really.
    Idk bout neuroshocks but I should've ranked Red guardian over scorp only if I've seen a week agoπŸ˜”.
    I've been saying it on multiple threads for the past month or so and all I got was disagrees, was starting to feel like I was just overestimating him lmao glad that wasn't the case.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,088 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    He doesn't need a nerf there are so many champs in the game that can kill him with full health already.
    To add to the champs @Emilia90 mantioned: Red Guardian, Tigra, Chavez, Juggs, FAM, Mysterio, Warlock, Ironheart, Starky can also can do that fight with full health. If they nerf him on defense he's going to lose most of his value.
    How FAM RG warlock mysterio or ironheart can take him in full health? They inevitably gonna get neuroshock and it will deal damage.

    The problem is, you're going to get unavoidable damage most of the times + crush messes up with your rotation + non parryable by most. He just has a lot in his kit. There should be a way to prevent his neuroshocks, like apply x effect (cowardice/heal block/suppression) and he removes a neuroshock (like dust remove sand on incen/plasma). This reduces his value a little, but still he will be a very annoying (probably best mutant if not for kitty) in the game .
    Any of those champs can finish with over 90% if you're dashing back constantly and purifying neuros, nothing special.
    I've used all of these already (except Ironheart don't have her) and you almost never get more than two neuros on you per five hit combo. If you're doing four hits dashing back and light intercepting the whole fight you're constantly purifying neuros and the damage is minimal (certainly not enough to warrant a nerf) the problem is people aren't used to fighting him this way and instead they choose to try to nuke him down in 30 secs. You have to be patient when you fight Onslaught, you only lose a ton of health when you're extremely aggressive and get more neuros on you than purify them.
    You need to be constantly dashing back after every combo to keep the neuro damage under control. If you're not doing this yes the damage is ridiculous and none of the champs I mentioned will work but if you do, it's 100% doable.

    Btw for RG, it's right here first fight in this video:
    https://youtu.be/YVq2WeowJ8Q?si=NkOxjdj-MNlfYkS5
    Video nobody bothered watching cause they're still stuck on the Titania Hulk hype train lmao
    I don't want this to get sent to the shadow realm so I'll just make another comment lol
    @captain_rogers watch the first fight and look at the neuro damage, barely any damage cause he was constantly dashing back and light intercepting. You need to adapt your playstyle to his abilities, that's all there is to Onslaught really.
    Idk bout neuroshocks but I should've ranked Red guardian over scorp only if I've seen a week agoπŸ˜”.
    I've been saying it on multiple threads for the past month or so and all I got was disagrees, was starting to feel like I was just overestimating him lmao glad that wasn't the case.
    He clearly could take few more matchups than scorp, but scorp is overall better cuz he actually got me a few kills in defense.
    Red guardian is cool, Definitely top 10 science and quite OP champ for Bgs.
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,339 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I'm pretty damn sure he'll nerfed a little defensively (I'll riot if he wasn't), but he would still be a op r3 worthy champ

    Dream
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,088 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Leave my onslaught alone!

    Especially you @captain_rogers, you'll pull him soon bro!

    Yeah let's hope. He is in 6* basics now.

    Problem is, even if I pull him and rank him up, I have to learn how to fight him cuz can't ban him when I have one πŸ˜”
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,178 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Leave my onslaught alone!

    Especially you @captain_rogers, you'll pull him soon bro!

    Yeah let's hope. He is in 6* basics now.

    Problem is, even if I pull him and rank him up, I have to learn how to fight him cuz can't ban him when I have one πŸ˜”
    That's been part of my issue, I still ain't that great at fighting him so when I see one, I have to hope the other guy is worse than fighting him than I am, hahaha

    I'm getting better at dexing the sp1, but nowhere near great at it yet. 😬

    And half the time I end up forgetting not to start by carrying, so that doesn't help matters.
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