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Invest in Suicides or Deep Wounds?

Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 2,255 ★★★★★
I’ve gotten a lot of carb cores from the weekly crystals and I’m going to grind arena to get the stony cores I need

I run a decent amount of bleed based champs but they’re not a majority of my deck (Domino, Nick, AA, and Venom are probably the big ones)

I’ve never ran suicides before but there are occasional metas that are good for it and it would speed up drab questing like monthly EQ

Invest in Suicides or Deep Wounds? 50 votes

Suicides
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Deep Wounds
48%
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    OakenshieldOakenshield Posts: 1,835 ★★★★
    Suicides
    If you do any sort of significant arena grinding, suicides is a good investment. Otherwise I’d do deep wounds.
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    RookiieRookiie Posts: 4,821 ★★★★★
    Suicides
    Hmm this is tricky, particularly because suicides just got a buff. I am not sure how impactful the buff is going to be in terms of offsetting recoil damage, but generally I prefer setups that benefit the entire roster rather than a specific set of champs. So, in this instance, I would recommend experimenting with suicides.
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    RookiieRookiie Posts: 4,821 ★★★★★
    Suicides
    Having said that, my main setup is Fundamentals + 3/3 Despair + 2/5 Deep Wounds + 3/5 Assassin + 3/3 Willpower + 3/3 Inequity + 3/5 Mystic Dispersion

    The idea is to spread utility across different classes. I also have a suicides-based loadout that focuses on maxing out attack.
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    Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 2,255 ★★★★★

    If you do any sort of significant arena grinding, suicides is a good investment. Otherwise I’d do deep wounds.

    Ooo that’s a good point. Arena grinding does suck without suicides. Do people usually max glass cannon or is it good to leave that at one point?
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    Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 2,255 ★★★★★
    Rookiie said:

    Having said that, my main setup is Fundamentals + 3/3 Despair + 2/5 Deep Wounds + 3/5 Assassin + 3/3 Willpower + 3/3 Inequity + 3/5 Mystic Dispersion

    The idea is to spread utility across different classes. I also have a suicides-based loadout that focuses on maxing out attack.

    Thanks for the advice! The suicides based loadout seems like it would speed up grinding a lot so that might be my first step. I’m guessing the difference is day and night with recoils on. Wish I invested in them earlier to grind units lol
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    captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Posts: 5,182 ★★★★★
    Deep Wounds
    Emilia90 said:

    If you do any sort of significant arena grinding, suicides is a good investment. Otherwise I’d do deep wounds.

    Ooo that’s a good point. Arena grinding does suck without suicides. Do people usually max glass cannon or is it good to leave that at one point?
    Max glass cannon if you don't run Suicides. It gives a little boost to attack without any big drawbacks.
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    RookiieRookiie Posts: 4,821 ★★★★★
    Suicides
    Emilia90 said:

    Rookiie said:

    Having said that, my main setup is Fundamentals + 3/3 Despair + 2/5 Deep Wounds + 3/5 Assassin + 3/3 Willpower + 3/3 Inequity + 3/5 Mystic Dispersion

    The idea is to spread utility across different classes. I also have a suicides-based loadout that focuses on maxing out attack.

    Thanks for the advice! The suicides based loadout seems like it would speed up grinding a lot so that might be my first step. I’m guessing the difference is day and night with recoils on. Wish I invested in them earlier to grind units lol

    You’re welcome! And well put, the difference is like day and night.
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    OakenshieldOakenshield Posts: 1,835 ★★★★
    Suicides
    Emilia90 said:

    If you do any sort of significant arena grinding, suicides is a good investment. Otherwise I’d do deep wounds.

    Ooo that’s a good point. Arena grinding does suck without suicides. Do people usually max glass cannon or is it good to leave that at one point?
    I can’t speak for anyone else, but if I’m using glass cannon I usually max it out. Definitely for my suicides/ arena grinding build.
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    shield311shield311 Posts: 368 ★★
    Deep Wounds

    Emilia90 said:

    If you do any sort of significant arena grinding, suicides is a good investment. Otherwise I’d do deep wounds.

    Ooo that’s a good point. Arena grinding does suck without suicides. Do people usually max glass cannon or is it good to leave that at one point?
    Max glass cannon if you don't run Suicides. It gives a little boost to attack without any big drawbacks.
    Hmm so if I unlock only glass cannon as I never do arenas is it overall good for BGs and questing?
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    captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Posts: 5,182 ★★★★★
    Deep Wounds
    shield311 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    If you do any sort of significant arena grinding, suicides is a good investment. Otherwise I’d do deep wounds.

    Ooo that’s a good point. Arena grinding does suck without suicides. Do people usually max glass cannon or is it good to leave that at one point?
    Max glass cannon if you don't run Suicides. It gives a little boost to attack without any big drawbacks.
    Hmm so if I unlock only glass cannon as I never do arenas is it overall good for BGs and questing?
    Yeah it is worth it. The extra attack in bgs s very useful.
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    Rayven5220Rayven5220 Posts: 1,908 ★★★★★

    shield311 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    If you do any sort of significant arena grinding, suicides is a good investment. Otherwise I’d do deep wounds.

    Ooo that’s a good point. Arena grinding does suck without suicides. Do people usually max glass cannon or is it good to leave that at one point?
    Max glass cannon if you don't run Suicides. It gives a little boost to attack without any big drawbacks.
    Hmm so if I unlock only glass cannon as I never do arenas is it overall good for BGs and questing?
    Yeah it is worth it. The extra attack in bgs s very useful.
    Attack is good, sure but remember the health you lose is also health the opponent doesn't have to worry about as well.

    I never run glass cannon in BG's, I want as much health for my defenders as possible.
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    Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 2,255 ★★★★★
    Does anyone remember when the last mastery bundle was? These cores are hella expensive 😭
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