Have Apocalypse and Onslaught been bugged since release?
YungLampshade69V2
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So Apocalypse has the ability line that reads "Opponents suffer 100% Purify Ability Accuracy reduction" as a means to counter Skill champions who purify debuffs a lot such as Kingpin or Agent Venom. Onslaught has the ability line that reads "If a personal Debuff or the Stun from the Parry Mastery is Purified or prevented due [to] a Debuff Immunity, re-inflict the Debuff as a Passive."
Meanwhile Cleanse is a consumable passive common on skill champions, which states that "When a Champion with Cleanse is inflicted with a Debuff, it is immediately Purified and Cleanse is removed."
When Apocalypse applies a debuff to a skill champion with cleanse, the debuff is purified regardless of Apoc's 100% purify aa reduction. Likewise, any time one of Onslaught's debuffs are purified by a cleanse, they aren't re-inflicted as a passive.
Based on the wording of how cleanse works, both Apocalypse and Onslaught should both be able to counter cleanse, yet they aren't. If that weren't enough, Bishop's ability that states "Each time the Opponent Purifies a Debuff they instantly recieve x Energy Damage. Skill Champions also receive a Passive Stun lasting 1.50 second(s) if the Debuff Purified was a Stun" DOES work against cleanse.
TL;DR- Cleanse is defined as a purify, Apoc and Onslaught are supposed to counter purify but don't counter cleanse, but Bishop's anti-purify does work against cleanse.
Why are there these massive inconsistencies in Cleanse, how it works, and it's counters?
Meanwhile Cleanse is a consumable passive common on skill champions, which states that "When a Champion with Cleanse is inflicted with a Debuff, it is immediately Purified and Cleanse is removed."
When Apocalypse applies a debuff to a skill champion with cleanse, the debuff is purified regardless of Apoc's 100% purify aa reduction. Likewise, any time one of Onslaught's debuffs are purified by a cleanse, they aren't re-inflicted as a passive.
Based on the wording of how cleanse works, both Apocalypse and Onslaught should both be able to counter cleanse, yet they aren't. If that weren't enough, Bishop's ability that states "Each time the Opponent Purifies a Debuff they instantly recieve x Energy Damage. Skill Champions also receive a Passive Stun lasting 1.50 second(s) if the Debuff Purified was a Stun" DOES work against cleanse.
TL;DR- Cleanse is defined as a purify, Apoc and Onslaught are supposed to counter purify but don't counter cleanse, but Bishop's anti-purify does work against cleanse.
Why are there these massive inconsistencies in Cleanse, how it works, and it's counters?
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The wording is weird though but that's just classic kabam at this point I'm afraid