Who is worse on defense

EdisonLaw

And why?

SagaChampion

for me both is not worse.

you asked the question, why ? I don't know much about it but can you say why serpent as your opinion?

Bendy

Bullseye

Mainly due to the damage from crits or bleed serpent ive taken with a few champs and have really been bad hes a lot fairer of a fight

Emilia90

Serpent

I’ve taken bullseye with a lot of champs and while he’s annoying, he’s also frail.

Serpent is guaranteed massive block damage (bullseye has it too, but more counters) and a big time stall aside from using a few champs

willrun4adonut

Serpent

By worse, I took it as better, and this, who would I rather not fight.

I don't know serpent's abilities or how to counter him besides Mojo. But I also haven't studied him - just autoban him until I can pull him.

Nemesis_17

Serpent

I’m guessing worse means more annoying and not less effective, right?

Serpent’s death immunity is such garbage, he gets power gain worse than Hyperion and regenerates like 25% of his health back when he’s already tanky as hell.

Ok then, let me bring a counter to his death immunity. LOL. Oh you silly naive summoner, his death immunity is nullify and stagger immune and has a base ability accuracy of 125%. This means there’s still a 25% chance his death immunity will completely ignore your neutralize and trigger anyway cuz why the hell not. And we all know how often 25% triggers thanks to the tenacity meta.

But seriously, why is every new cosmic nullify annd stagger immune? Is there a lore reason he’s nullify and stagger immune? Is he science?

Anyone who watches competitive battlegrounds knows the serpent is just an instant draft no matter what. Even when the opponent has a Chavez or Kushala drafted, people still take serpent, and he still usually wins. And if they don’t have a counter he’s even more so a guaranteed win. My personal bias against this champ aside, he’s still legitimately unbalanced from a winrate perspective. If kabam was willing to take a look at bullseye and tune him as needed, I think there’s no chance serpent doesn’t get rebalanced.

EdisonLaw

Serpent

@Nemesis_17 yeah by worse I mean worse to fight

The Serpent isn’t nullify immune, just fate seal immune. His death immunity is nullify immune however

Nemesis_17

Serpent

EdisonLaw said:

@Nemesis_17 yeah by worse I mean worse to fight

The Serpent isn’t nullify immune, just fate seal immune. His death immunity is nullify immune however

Yea every time I mentioned nullify & stagger immune I meant it in the context of his death immunity. I know it wasn’t made very clear but I already edited that post once for something else and it got sent to the abyss so I’m not risking that again lmao.

JT_Supreme

Bullseye

Serpent over bullseye is crazy

ItsClobberinTime

Bullseye

If by worse you mean weaker and easier then it has to be Bullseye.

EgyptOverseer

Awakened or unawakened?

EdisonLaw

Serpent

EgyptOverseer said:

Awakened or unawakened?

Either one

Vegeta9001

Onslaughts still a pain in the ass for me, you just take so much unavoidable damage through neuroshocks even if you perfectly dex his specials.

Serpent and bullseye I can clear with 95% health left now in bg

Emilia90

Serpent

Vegeta9001 said:

Onslaughts still a pain in the ass for me, you just take so much unavoidable damage through neuroshocks even if you perfectly dex his specials.

Serpent and bullseye I can clear with 95% health left now in bg

If you slow play you can finish onslaught above 95% with a ton of champs. How do you do serpent above 95% unless you’re using Kushala or Chavez and maybe Werewolf?

EdisonLaw

Serpent

Vegeta9001 said:

Onslaughts still a pain in the ass for me, you just take so much unavoidable damage through neuroshocks even if you perfectly dex his specials.

Serpent and bullseye I can clear with 95% health left now in bg

Don’t use metal champions as they cannot remove the neuroshocks.

Dubois

Vegeta9001 said:

Onslaughts still a pain in the ass for me, you just take so much unavoidable damage through neuroshocks even if you perfectly dex his specials.

Serpent and bullseye I can clear with 95% health left now in bg

Hulkling takes onslut in 45-55 seconds

captain_rogers

Bullseye

Vegeta9001 said:

Onslaughts still a pain in the ass for me, you just take so much unavoidable damage through neuroshocks even if you perfectly dex his specials.

Serpent and bullseye I can clear with 95% health left now in bg

Onslut can be taken by a veriety of champs, Anyone who isn't skill or metal, and applies unavoidable incenerate coldsnap shock or plasma, and don't crit a lot, can take out onslut. Which is still 50% of all champs. You can't say the same about boolseye or snake guy.

Polygon

Sadly serpent needs the dupe for r3 on defense I think

ItsClobberinTime

Bullseye

Polygon said:

Sadly serpent needs the dupe for r3 on defense I think

If it's r3 not really cause he's still very tanky but r2, r1 and 6* definitely, yeah.

captain_rogers

Bullseye

Polygon said:

Sadly serpent needs the dupe for r3 on defense I think

You'll be surprised to see how many kills my r2 unduped gets in bgs. I'm going to r3 him soon unduped.

Bendy

Bullseye

For anyone saying about onslaught hes really not that bad this my new fav match up in bgs now

captain_rogers

Bullseye

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

Bendy

Bullseye

captain_rogers said:

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

Shes been my option since war and i noticed she really doesnt take much due to she finishes quick and i got lucky of it not always applying even on crits

Bendy

Bullseye

captain_rogers said:

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

But when i first used her this season bs him i was shocked too how little she loses vs him even though mines a r3 i always expected to lose more since #metal is a bad thing but for angela some reason it just works that she really doesnt get a lot on even with her crits

Syndicated

Serpent

Killing me? come on, let me be death inmune and getting 3 power bars to delete you for free!

EdisonLaw

Serpent

captain_rogers said:

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

Angela’s regeneration keeps her topped up

Bendy

Bullseye

EdisonLaw said:

captain_rogers said:

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

Angela’s regeneration keeps her topped up

In bgs never happened to regen that 4% health loss is just straight up what i lost in full fight

EdisonLaw

Serpent

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

captain_rogers said:

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

Angela’s regeneration keeps her topped up

In bgs never happened to regen that 4% health loss is just straight up what i lost in full fight

Must have been good RNG then

Bendy

Bullseye

EdisonLaw said:

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

captain_rogers said:

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

Angela’s regeneration keeps her topped up

In bgs never happened to regen that 4% health loss is just straight up what i lost in full fight

Must have been good RNG then

Pretty much was insane rng i never really expect how it goes as never really get lucky on abilities like attuma even with rng i lose more than health than i should every time

captain_rogers

Bullseye

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

captain_rogers said:

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

Angela’s regeneration keeps her topped up

In bgs never happened to regen that 4% health loss is just straight up what i lost in full fight

This meta should be exception since the node just makes cosmic champs go nuts.

Bendy

Bullseye

captain_rogers said:

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

captain_rogers said:

@bendy How did you managed to do the Onslaught fight without losing much health? Angela is metal right? and she crits a lot as well. You might have gotten a lot of neuroschocks on you.

Angela’s regeneration keeps her topped up

In bgs never happened to regen that 4% health loss is just straight up what i lost in full fight

This meta should be exception since the node just makes cosmic champs go nuts.

Should still lose more i think but r3 angela is just crazy so maybe if onslaught was a 7 r3 i would lose more who knows but angela is just amazing even without this meta i think she would be fine on this fight just probs a few seconds slower