Who do y’all consider will age better as a 7*, Warlock or Guardian?

jcphillips7jcphillips7 Member Posts: 1,429 ★★★★
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Looks like I need another tech r3, and I recently got both of these gents awakened.

I’ve got the r2 Hulkbuster relic, and also some sig stones so Guardian could go up to about sig 100 if I wanted to invest them all.

I wouldn’t put any more into Warlock most likely, but I feel he already has enough in his kit to merit being a beast. Took me the longest time to get him as a 7*, but when I knew he was coming out, I just never took my 6* past 6r3 knowing the day might come.

If I had Red Skull awakened, I’d go with him without a doubt. But no dice so far on pulling that dupe.
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  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,594 ★★★★★
    Can't go wrong with any of the 3 you mentioned, but Guardian is the answer.
  • jcphillips7jcphillips7 Member Posts: 1,429 ★★★★
    Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I think I am leaning more towards Guardian. Really enjoyed playing him when 5*s were the best we could get and I took mine to r5. Never messed with the 6* much when I finally got him, as I knew what the sig investment would be and I had better options at the time. I may wait until I clear these last couple ranks of VT to net the shards and see what those crystals give, but I think Guardian might end up being who I pull the trigger on.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,535 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
  • Kingering_KingKingering_King Member Posts: 1,042 ★★★
    Warlock
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    This, people seem to forget how tanky he is, at r3 even with Hulkling Vox or Galan you won't be able to nuke in 30-40 secs as per usual. Without a counter it's a guaranteed timeout and there are very few champs that can actually nuke him.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,522 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    This, people seem to forget how tanky he is, at r3 even with Hulkling Vox or Galan you won't be able to nuke in 30-40 secs as per usual. Without a counter it's a guaranteed timeout and there are very few champs that can actually nuke him.
    Yeah I’ve fought r3 IMIW with Hulkling and he still stalled me lol. Very tanky defender

    Also find it funny that I got disagreed so hard for saying warlock isn’t as relevant as guardian for battlegrounds. Love to see warlock doing better than him if anyone has any footage
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
    Trappy is the goat. Completely agree with this. IMIW being predictable has nothing to do with it, it’s mostly that he’s extremely tanky and stalls a lot. The last power gain stage is a pain and he reduces a lot of the top cosmics damage by so much that you end up getting stalled out. I also want to point out his finicky AI
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    This, people seem to forget how tanky he is, at r3 even with Hulkling Vox or Galan you won't be able to nuke in 30-40 secs as per usual. Without a counter it's a guaranteed timeout and there are very few champs that can actually nuke him.
    Yeah I’ve fought r3 IMIW with Hulkling and he still stalled me lol. Very tanky defender

    Also find it funny that I got disagreed so hard for saying warlock isn’t as relevant as guardian for battlegrounds. Love to see warlock doing better than him if anyone has any footage
    I saw the disagrees lol meta gremlins strike again.
    It's funny though that they genuinely don't realize how strong some champs are because not a lot of people use them. I still see more Titanias and Hulks than Red Goats in BGs even though at r6 he can easily keep up with those two as r3s in terms of speed and when I said this I got disagree spammed too. Ignore the meta gremlins
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
    Trappy is the goat. Completely agree with this. IMIW being predictable has nothing to do with it, it’s mostly that he’s extremely tanky and stalls a lot. The last power gain stage is a pain and he reduces a lot of the top cosmics damage by so much that you end up getting stalled out. I also want to point out his finicky AI
    Exactly! It's like when people say Hulk is a trash defender cause he doesn't have any defensive abilities when that's not the point. The point is how much of a tank he is if Inequity is at play. A lot of defenders in the game are hard because they're tanky, n
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,595 ★★★★★
    The Canadian
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
    Trappy is the goat. Completely agree with this. IMIW being predictable has nothing to do with it, it’s mostly that he’s extremely tanky and stalls a lot. The last power gain stage is a pain and he reduces a lot of the top cosmics damage by so much that you end up getting stalled out. I also want to point out his finicky AI
    Exactly! It's like when people say Hulk is a trash defender cause he doesn't have any defensive abilities when that's not the point. The point is how much of a tank he is if Inequity is at play. A lot of defenders in the game are hard because they're tanky, n
    Oh my god Hulk is such a massive pain. I used to think he was a pushover on defense when he was first buffed but he’s stalled me out so many times. 3/3 inequity and those physical vulnerabilities on you and you’re tickling him. I’ve lost to so many r3 Hulk’s lol. Want him duped ASAP cause then I’d easily value him over all my other sciences
  • UltragamerUltragamer Member Posts: 575 ★★★
    Guardian will hold up much better already is I don’t use either but I haven’t done anything with 7* guardian cause he’s unduped
  • UltragamerUltragamer Member Posts: 575 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
    Trappy is the goat. Completely agree with this. IMIW being predictable has nothing to do with it, it’s mostly that he’s extremely tanky and stalls a lot. The last power gain stage is a pain and he reduces a lot of the top cosmics damage by so much that you end up getting stalled out. I also want to point out his finicky AI
    Exactly! It's like when people say Hulk is a trash defender cause he doesn't have any defensive abilities when that's not the point. The point is how much of a tank he is if Inequity is at play. A lot of defenders in the game are hard because they're tanky, n
    Oh my god Hulk is such a massive pain. I used to think he was a pushover on defense when he was first buffed but he’s stalled me out so many times. 3/3 inequity and those physical vulnerabilities on you and you’re tickling him. I’ve lost to so many r3 Hulk’s lol. Want him duped ASAP cause then I’d easily value him over all my other sciences
    Honestly idk how people struggle with him easy fight with quite a bit of champs (hulkling, Kate, mantis, Shang, cgr, hulk, red guardian, Titania, valk, sunspot, dust, Adam, and silk) all these make him a very easy fight even r3s
  • RenaxqqRenaxqq Member Posts: 1,638 ★★★★
    Warlock
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    Ultragamer said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
    Trappy is the goat. Completely agree with this. IMIW being predictable has nothing to do with it, it’s mostly that he’s extremely tanky and stalls a lot. The last power gain stage is a pain and he reduces a lot of the top cosmics damage by so much that you end up getting stalled out. I also want to point out his finicky AI
    Exactly! It's like when people say Hulk is a trash defender cause he doesn't have any defensive abilities when that's not the point. The point is how much of a tank he is if Inequity is at play. A lot of defenders in the game are hard because they're tanky, n
    Oh my god Hulk is such a massive pain. I used to think he was a pushover on defense when he was first buffed but he’s stalled me out so many times. 3/3 inequity and those physical vulnerabilities on you and you’re tickling him. I’ve lost to so many r3 Hulk’s lol. Want him duped ASAP cause then I’d easily value him over all my other sciences
    Honestly idk how people struggle with him easy fight with quite a bit of champs (hulkling, Kate, mantis, Shang, cgr, hulk, red guardian, Titania, valk, sunspot, dust, Adam, and silk) all these make him a very easy fight even r3s
    Lots of those champs are stalled against him. I’ve used Hulkling and he takes a while because of inequity. If your opponent isn’t running 3/3, he’s not that hard. Mantis and Shang sure because they can prevent his abilities, but he’s annoying with a lot of nukes
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Ultragamer said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
    Trappy is the goat. Completely agree with this. IMIW being predictable has nothing to do with it, it’s mostly that he’s extremely tanky and stalls a lot. The last power gain stage is a pain and he reduces a lot of the top cosmics damage by so much that you end up getting stalled out. I also want to point out his finicky AI
    Exactly! It's like when people say Hulk is a trash defender cause he doesn't have any defensive abilities when that's not the point. The point is how much of a tank he is if Inequity is at play. A lot of defenders in the game are hard because they're tanky, n
    Oh my god Hulk is such a massive pain. I used to think he was a pushover on defense when he was first buffed but he’s stalled me out so many times. 3/3 inequity and those physical vulnerabilities on you and you’re tickling him. I’ve lost to so many r3 Hulk’s lol. Want him duped ASAP cause then I’d easily value him over all my other sciences
    Honestly idk how people struggle with him easy fight with quite a bit of champs (hulkling, Kate, mantis, Shang, cgr, hulk, red guardian, Titania, valk, sunspot, dust, Adam, and silk) all these make him a very easy fight even r3s
    If they're running Inequity 3, all those champs will get stalled hard except for CGR, Mantis, Shang, Red Guardian, Sunspot and Hulk. As soon as you get the physical vulnerabilities on you and they have Inequity he turns into a tank and that's what makes him annoying, not his actual abilities.
  • NojokejaymNojokejaym Member Posts: 4,126 ★★★★★
    Warlock
  • UltragamerUltragamer Member Posts: 575 ★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Ultragamer said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
    Trappy is the goat. Completely agree with this. IMIW being predictable has nothing to do with it, it’s mostly that he’s extremely tanky and stalls a lot. The last power gain stage is a pain and he reduces a lot of the top cosmics damage by so much that you end up getting stalled out. I also want to point out his finicky AI
    Exactly! It's like when people say Hulk is a trash defender cause he doesn't have any defensive abilities when that's not the point. The point is how much of a tank he is if Inequity is at play. A lot of defenders in the game are hard because they're tanky, n
    Oh my god Hulk is such a massive pain. I used to think he was a pushover on defense when he was first buffed but he’s stalled me out so many times. 3/3 inequity and those physical vulnerabilities on you and you’re tickling him. I’ve lost to so many r3 Hulk’s lol. Want him duped ASAP cause then I’d easily value him over all my other sciences
    Honestly idk how people struggle with him easy fight with quite a bit of champs (hulkling, Kate, mantis, Shang, cgr, hulk, red guardian, Titania, valk, sunspot, dust, Adam, and silk) all these make him a very easy fight even r3s
    If they're running Inequity 3, all those champs will get stalled hard except for CGR, Mantis, Shang, Red Guardian, Sunspot and Hulk. As soon as you get the physical vulnerabilities on you and they have Inequity he turns into a tank and that's what makes him annoying, not his actual abilities.
    Not many run inequity 3 even them I’ve never had any issues using these champs against him making it very hard to believe he’s any bit of good on defense
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Ultragamer said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Ultragamer said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Emilia90 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Who are all your tech champs?

    I'll r3 red skull. He is scary in defense outside this meta, and doesn't need the dupe much.

    My warlock is collecting dust. I wish Omega sentinel or ultron would've won the poll, Now they're gatekeeped behind limited pool.

    Red Skull, Guardian, IMIW are the top 3 priority imo
    IMIW? he is **** in attack, very easy defender even when duped. I would never look at his direction lol. Even I have one collecting dust.
    He’s a pretty annoying defender. A lot of top level players have him ranked from what I’ve seen
    Seriously? I haven't seen any imiw in bgs, especially at r3. And whenever I face him, I mostly never have trouble with him either. His autoblock is predictable, and he is useless in attack. Even at high sig, you can wait out and nuke him down after his armors end. Or can just use a autoblock counter.

    And he is trash in attack.
    Trappy has a r3 and he's said multiple times that he is his MVP on defense on most metas in Celestial. I think you're severely underestimating how much of a tank a r3 awakened is, you will most likely time out if you're waiting out the armors.
    Trappy is the goat. Completely agree with this. IMIW being predictable has nothing to do with it, it’s mostly that he’s extremely tanky and stalls a lot. The last power gain stage is a pain and he reduces a lot of the top cosmics damage by so much that you end up getting stalled out. I also want to point out his finicky AI
    Exactly! It's like when people say Hulk is a trash defender cause he doesn't have any defensive abilities when that's not the point. The point is how much of a tank he is if Inequity is at play. A lot of defenders in the game are hard because they're tanky, n
    Oh my god Hulk is such a massive pain. I used to think he was a pushover on defense when he was first buffed but he’s stalled me out so many times. 3/3 inequity and those physical vulnerabilities on you and you’re tickling him. I’ve lost to so many r3 Hulk’s lol. Want him duped ASAP cause then I’d easily value him over all my other sciences
    Honestly idk how people struggle with him easy fight with quite a bit of champs (hulkling, Kate, mantis, Shang, cgr, hulk, red guardian, Titania, valk, sunspot, dust, Adam, and silk) all these make him a very easy fight even r3s
    If they're running Inequity 3, all those champs will get stalled hard except for CGR, Mantis, Shang, Red Guardian, Sunspot and Hulk. As soon as you get the physical vulnerabilities on you and they have Inequity he turns into a tank and that's what makes him annoying, not his actual abilities.
    Not many run inequity 3 even them I’ve never had any issues using these champs against him making it very hard to believe he’s any bit of good on defense
    I've watched Andrew (who's won C1 before mind you) lose to a r3 Hulk because of Inequity. I doubt you've faced Inequity 3 r3 Hulks with some of the champs you mentioned cause you absolutely can't nuke with some of thosenif Inequity 3 is at play and he's r3.
  • Real_Madrid_76_2Real_Madrid_76_2 Member Posts: 3,560 ★★★★★
    Not even a question. Guardian is the better allrounder. His max sig ability is pain for opponent in bgs. Players actually just forget how annoying guardian is without the right counter, and i take the advantage in these cases. Also offensively he's a beast. Finishes off most of the fights with 1 sp1 and sp2, kinda similar amount of time warlock takes
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