Deathless Vision| The Hollow Champion|

Darkraw346

Let's talk about...
Deathless Vision-The Hollow...Heart?
The heart isn't the only thing hollow about him...
Deathless Vision lacks so much...
So, Deathless Gully was pretty basic, you know... but that was ok, beacuse she was the first Deathless,
Then Deathless King Groot came, and determined a new standard for the Deathless in my eyes, first, he got a great damage increase (as did Gully, tho for her it's more rng based), he got some new aspects to his kit, and, to match his new look-he got some vfx changes.

When I've watched Deathless Vision-The Hollow Heart, I was amazed. He looks the same-yet so different. He looks that much evil, and the glow in his chest is so cool,
Then he was released...
The damage isn't what you'd expect
I don't enjoy his rotation very much, I like the whole power burn into miss and hit, but I feel like it all takes too long, not only his power drain is lower than the other Visions-the power gain was completely taken away, where for Vision he had the power gain from the sig, and AOU Vision had a Power steal aspect to go with his Power burn... Deathless Vision dosent have either... so he loses out on both fronts... so much taken away-and for what? What compensates for it exactly?
Now for the third thing-his miss, when the opponent misses you'd expect to see some cool phasing animation...
Just like how Viv Vision got a cool phase animation, i mean, they share the same exact concept-a phase charge that get used on parry to make the opponent miss...
Cassie Shrinks, Hood goes invisible in a smokey way, Stryfe telepathically cloaks himself in an animated way, Invisible woman turns invisible, Ghost almost dissapears, Spider Supreme has got a sick astral form animation, and I can go on and on...
But Deathless Vision... nothing...
Hes got a sick new look, but nothing to match it vfx wise... his Nanite chassis (Deathless piece reference) glows for no reason...

What do you think?

JLordVileJ

He is legit a noodle. Just a noodle. In every way possible. He is kinda like sentry but worse from what I've seen

Darkraw346

JLordVileJ said:

He is legit a noodle. Just a noodle. In every way possible. He is kinda like sentry but worse from what I've seen

I feel like he's got nothing to reflect his awesome new look/Deathless reveal video

EdisonLaw

I wish he had some form of damage over time, like a degeneration similar to Guilly

PT_99

He doesn't even power drain like OG one

Like idk how Kabam looked at bad OG vision and decided to make deathless vision even worse for power drain??
😅

Vance2_jr

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

WednesdayLength

PT_99 said:

He doesn't even power drain like OG one

Like idk how Kabam looked at bad OG vision and decided to make deathless vision even worse for power drain??
😅

Og visions power drain is one of the strongest in the game. Dll talked about this a lot and has said that if they were to buff og vision they would also have to nuke his power drain because that alone makes him already close to what they consider too strong.

WednesdayLength

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

Darkraw346

WednesdayLength said:

PT_99 said:

He doesn't even power drain like OG one

Like idk how Kabam looked at bad OG vision and decided to make deathless vision even worse for power drain??
😅

Og visions power drain is one of the strongest in the game. Dll talked about this a lot and has said that if they were to buff og vision they would also have to nuke his power drain because that alone makes him already close to what they consider too strong.

Hello defender...
Nerfing power drain is one thing,
But why did they COMPLETELY take away his power gain/steal?

Darkraw346

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Darkraw346

WednesdayLength said:

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

The dmg is one of the issues I have with him, but as I've said above, it's more than just the dmg

EdisonLaw

WednesdayLength said:

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

Well we can't even dupe him yet probably until the Summer of Suffering. Plus his power burn is weaker than the other Visions, it's not just a damage problem.

Darkraw346

EdisonLaw said:

WednesdayLength said:

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

Well we can't even dupe him yet probably until the Summer of Suffering. Plus his power burn is weaker than the other Visions, it's not just a damage problem.

I might r5 and ascend and high sig the 6*, just to see how much of a difference the dupe actually makes

Bendy

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Bendy

WednesdayLength said:

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

High regen no one will use him as theres better healblockers than him that are less stressful to play that doesnt involve ai like omega sent easy to maintain pauses debuffs lady d can stop while using sp1 warlock infections u can always keep up deathless even in regen fights wont be used his design isnt even regen fights as if was he be easiest to keep heal block up but isnt as he doesnt have a way to pause heal block or keep it up fully since he does neither power steal or power gain

Darkraw346

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Darkraw346

Bendy said:

WednesdayLength said:

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

High regen no one will use him as theres better healblockers than him that are less stressful to play that doesnt involve ai like omega sent easy to maintain pauses debuffs lady d can stop while using sp1 warlock infections u can always keep up deathless even in regen fights wont be used his design isnt even regen fights as if was he be easiest to keep heal block up but isnt as he doesnt have a way to pause heal block or keep it up fully since he does neither power steal or power gain

Right?

Bendy

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights should add ive used her for war a lot of times vs serpents and its amazing as she can take the block damage of his and not be worried

Darkraw346

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Bendy

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Its due to the blade is mystical they dont need that class specific ability as otherwise some champs wouldnt be that class like all the spiders be one class only

Darkraw346

Bendy said:

WednesdayLength said:

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

High regen no one will use him as theres better healblockers than him that are less stressful to play that doesnt involve ai like omega sent easy to maintain pauses debuffs lady d can stop while using sp1 warlock infections u can always keep up deathless even in regen fights wont be used his design isnt even regen fights as if was he be easiest to keep heal block up but isnt as he doesnt have a way to pause heal block or keep it up fully since he does neither power steal or power gain

Also, between Despair mastery and not much of high regan defenders releases recently... I feel like a heal blocker is much less needed at this period of the game

Bendy

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

WednesdayLength said:

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

High regen no one will use him as theres better healblockers than him that are less stressful to play that doesnt involve ai like omega sent easy to maintain pauses debuffs lady d can stop while using sp1 warlock infections u can always keep up deathless even in regen fights wont be used his design isnt even regen fights as if was he be easiest to keep heal block up but isnt as he doesnt have a way to pause heal block or keep it up fully since he does neither power steal or power gain

Also, between Despair mastery and not much of high regan defenders releases recently... I feel like a heal blocker is much less needed at this period of the game

For sure its less but it might return one day as they cant ignore regen on a potent defender like even enchantress has some type of healing energy based attacks

Darkness275

PT_99 said:

He doesn't even power drain like OG one

Like idk how Kabam looked at bad OG vision and decided to make deathless vision even worse for power drain??
😅

This may be semantics, I think I understand you're just talking about Deathless Vision's power control being worse, but if you specifically mean Power Drain, I want to point out that he power burns, exactly like the OG and Age of Ultron Vision - no Vision utilized power drain. AoU could also steal power if he was awoken.

OG Vision/AoU Vision SP1: Power Burns up to 39% target's max power
Deathless Vision: Power Burns up to 35% a bar of power.

OG Vision/AoU Vision SP2: Power Burns up to 100% target's max power
Deathless Vision: Power Burns up to 135% a bar of power

OG Vision SP3: Power Burns up to 33% target's max power
AoU Vision SP3: Power Burns up to 48% target's max power
Deathless Vision: Power Burns up to 200% of a bar of power.

Is it less power control? Yeah. He also doesn't randomly gain power (OG) or steal power (AoU), but his potent for damage is increased quite a bit, he gains a fury, increased attack rating and instant degen damage. He's also additionally immune to Frostbite and Coldsnap for added utility.

Both versions of Vision were wet noodles unless awoken. Are we surprised Deathless likely needs to be awoken too?

Both Deathless champions so far have traded out something of their original kits for something else.
King Groot had a reduction in healing to boost damage.
Guillotine used the OG kit and thus also had a reduction of her Regen potential for Damage. He bleed swapped out for Degen, a more consistent and dependable source.

This Deathless traded out power control for additional damage and utility. I'll reserve my final judgement until I get him awoken.

Darkraw346

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Its due to the blade is mystical they dont need that class specific ability as otherwise some champs wouldnt be that class like all the spiders be one class only

You say she's only Mystic cuz of the blade? And so what? She shouldn't have Mystic abilities?

I'm just saying, the Deathless team should counter various aspects of the game, as they consist of different classes.
Deathless King groot fills his part greatly
Deathless Vision... can't say for sure yet, but he does contributes SOMETHING
Deathless Gully... none

Darkraw346

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

WednesdayLength said:

I could see them giving him a bump to his furies, depending on what synergies they have planned for him, but I think people calling him a noodle are being a little over dramatic. I've not seen anyone use him duped in high regen matches which is clearly what he's designed for

High regen no one will use him as theres better healblockers than him that are less stressful to play that doesnt involve ai like omega sent easy to maintain pauses debuffs lady d can stop while using sp1 warlock infections u can always keep up deathless even in regen fights wont be used his design isnt even regen fights as if was he be easiest to keep heal block up but isnt as he doesnt have a way to pause heal block or keep it up fully since he does neither power steal or power gain

Also, between Despair mastery and not much of high regan defenders releases recently... I feel like a heal blocker is much less needed at this period of the game

For sure its less but it might return one day as they cant ignore regen on a potent defender like even enchantress has some type of healing energy based attacks

I really hope so, regan reversal is such a sick way to deal dmg, and it's very sad to me it's irrelevant nowadays

WHERE WILL I USE MY FUTURE 7* LEADER?

Bendy

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Its due to the blade is mystical they dont need that class specific ability as otherwise some champs wouldnt be that class like all the spiders be one class only

You say she's only Mystic cuz of the blade? And so what? She shouldn't have Mystic abilities?

I'm just saying, the Deathless team should counter various aspects of the game, as they consist of different classes.
Deathless King groot fills his part greatly
Deathless Vision... can't say for sure yet, but he does contributes SOMETHING
Deathless Gully... none

Its her pre kit what do u want they even said in her rebalance she was designed from pre kit and kept simple what else u want u want from kabam to make her like buffed when was there intent the design was a buff from old by using what deathless would do deal degen

Bendy

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Its due to the blade is mystical they dont need that class specific ability as otherwise some champs wouldnt be that class like all the spiders be one class only

You say she's only Mystic cuz of the blade? And so what? She shouldn't have Mystic abilities?

I'm just saying, the Deathless team should counter various aspects of the game, as they consist of different classes.
Deathless King groot fills his part greatly
Deathless Vision... can't say for sure yet, but he does contributes SOMETHING
Deathless Gully... none

When u use her a lot return as ive been playing her i know her place she is in a place for war and bg how she is

Darkraw346

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Its due to the blade is mystical they dont need that class specific ability as otherwise some champs wouldnt be that class like all the spiders be one class only

You say she's only Mystic cuz of the blade? And so what? She shouldn't have Mystic abilities?

I'm just saying, the Deathless team should counter various aspects of the game, as they consist of different classes.
Deathless King groot fills his part greatly
Deathless Vision... can't say for sure yet, but he does contributes SOMETHING
Deathless Gully... none

Its her pre kit what do u want they even said in her rebalance she was designed from pre kit and kept simple what else u want u want from kabam to make her like buffed when was there intent the design was a buff from old by using what deathless would do deal degen

She should've got a little Nullify, that's all I ask for

Bendy

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Its due to the blade is mystical they dont need that class specific ability as otherwise some champs wouldnt be that class like all the spiders be one class only

You say she's only Mystic cuz of the blade? And so what? She shouldn't have Mystic abilities?

I'm just saying, the Deathless team should counter various aspects of the game, as they consist of different classes.
Deathless King groot fills his part greatly
Deathless Vision... can't say for sure yet, but he does contributes SOMETHING
Deathless Gully... none

Its her pre kit what do u want they even said in her rebalance she was designed from pre kit and kept simple what else u want u want from kabam to make her like buffed when was there intent the design was a buff from old by using what deathless would do deal degen

She should've got a little Nullify, that's all I ask for

But guillotine isnt about nullify its all about the cursed sword of souls so they used a soul mechanic shes still a mystic she doesnt need nullify or anything like that

Darkraw346

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Its due to the blade is mystical they dont need that class specific ability as otherwise some champs wouldnt be that class like all the spiders be one class only

You say she's only Mystic cuz of the blade? And so what? She shouldn't have Mystic abilities?

I'm just saying, the Deathless team should counter various aspects of the game, as they consist of different classes.
Deathless King groot fills his part greatly
Deathless Vision... can't say for sure yet, but he does contributes SOMETHING
Deathless Gully... none

Its her pre kit what do u want they even said in her rebalance she was designed from pre kit and kept simple what else u want u want from kabam to make her like buffed when was there intent the design was a buff from old by using what deathless would do deal degen

She should've got a little Nullify, that's all I ask for

But guillotine isnt about nullify its all about the cursed sword of souls so they used a soul mechanic shes still a mystic she doesnt need nullify or anything like that

I think she does just beacuse she's the only Deathless Mystic we got, so, say we get a future Carina challenge of using only the Deathless in some quest, what will u do if u run into some tough cosmic defender? Use the Mystic champ in your team-Deathless Gully, to deal with his buffs? Sounds ideal, but no

Bendy

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Bendy said:

Darkraw346 said:

Vance2_jr said:

He is purely a means to an end. The only thing he’s good at is getting one step closer to deathless thanos.

But he shouldn't be just that... Deathless King groot is much more than that

Same with deathless guilly

Lol I didn't say her on purpose cuz idk... in my eyes, not so much
Her dmg is good ofc, but utility wise? Deathless King groot as a Cosmic, have buffs and armor breaks, you know what... just this once ill throw a bone at Deathless Vision and say that he as a Tech champ have a power burn
But Deathless Gully, as a Mystic champ have nothing... no Nullify/Stagger/Neutrelize/buff time reduction/ANY benefit from the opponent's buffs... MD dosent count

Shes based on old guilly but the difference is she uses degen which no one really stops plus shes nuking fights u cant not be impressed if u played her i have a r3 and she nukes fights

I've r2d her today and have yet to try her with full synergy team
Yeah, no doubt about the dmg
But a champion of a certain class that uses literally no abillity of said class/have no way to counter any of the opposite class in 2024 is wild to me

Its due to the blade is mystical they dont need that class specific ability as otherwise some champs wouldnt be that class like all the spiders be one class only

You say she's only Mystic cuz of the blade? And so what? She shouldn't have Mystic abilities?

I'm just saying, the Deathless team should counter various aspects of the game, as they consist of different classes.
Deathless King groot fills his part greatly
Deathless Vision... can't say for sure yet, but he does contributes SOMETHING
Deathless Gully... none

Its her pre kit what do u want they even said in her rebalance she was designed from pre kit and kept simple what else u want u want from kabam to make her like buffed when was there intent the design was a buff from old by using what deathless would do deal degen

She should've got a little Nullify, that's all I ask for

But guillotine isnt about nullify its all about the cursed sword of souls so they used a soul mechanic shes still a mystic she doesnt need nullify or anything like that

I think she does just beacuse she's the only Deathless Mystic we got, so, say we get a future Carina challenge of using only the Deathless in some quest, what will u do if u run into some tough cosmic defender? Use the Mystic champ in your team-Deathless Gully, to deal with his buffs? Sounds ideal, but no

U dont need to always buff control u do know right also we still have 1 more either hype or sw