Abs man vs Hercules

Grub88

What am I missing in this Battle Grounds meta? Abs man should reduce hercules indestructuble by 90% yet I still had to fight for the full duration and it lost me the fight.

captain_rogers

Grub88 said:

What am I missing in this Battle Grounds meta? Abs man should reduce hercules indestructuble by 90% yet I still had to fight for the full duration and it lost me the fight.

Extend increase buff duration by 150%

Grub88

so what is it the 10% increased by 150% or 150% reduced to 13.5%? still it should be basically nothing

Squidopus

Basically all percentage calculations like these are additive, not multiplicative. In this case, the math would be 100% (base duration) - 90% (Abs man’s ability) + 150% (extend node) = 160% of base duration. So Herc is coming out of it with a longer duration immortality than a normal fight even with Abs man’s duration

Grub88

Squidopus said:

Basically all percentage calculations like these are additive, not multiplicative. In this case, the math would be 100% (base duration) - 90% (Abs man’s ability) + 150% (extend node) = 160% of base duration. So Herc is coming out of it with a longer duration immortality than a normal fight even with Abs man’s duration

Thanks, thats what Im missing. Bit counter intuitive

Squidopus

If you’re curious, the only general cases of multiplicative percentages I’m aware of are weakness effects (presumably so you can’t reduce a champions attack by 100%) and the 30% regen reduction from poisons.

Grub88

yeah im very curious where you are getting all this information from? I think it should be made more easily available in game

Squidopus

Grub88 said:

yeah im very curious where you are getting all this information from? I think it should be made more easily available in game

It’s sorta stuff you just learn from experience and some time poking around with others in the community like in the forums here. The game can definitely be a bit esoteric at times so I don’t blame you, although technically speaking the game does kinda imply these things are additive by usually stating things like “X has -50% duration” as opposed to “X has its duration halved” or “X’s duration is 50% of what it would be”. I’d definitely be down for some sort of comprehensive guide to game mechanics for newer players, but tbh the game’s kinda big enough that it’d be an undertaking to say the least.

captain_rogers

Grub88 said:

yeah im very curious where you are getting all this information from? I think it should be made more easily available in game

Personal experience 🥲 Lost a mojo vs hulkling fight because stupid me thought the armor ups will expire in no time and degen him😭