Decay tactic not working or Path 9 bug?

Pit_0f_Misery

So on path 9 I had Void on my first lower node, then Attuma on the second. Neither are tactic defenders..so I went with Silk with the decay tactic for Void and Onslaught for Attuma. Silk melted like a snowman against Void. Within 30 secs, she had over 12 incinerate/poisons applied to her and that was it. After her untimely death..I tried using Onslaught against him..and to my surprise, Onslaught died from stacks of incinerate damage. After finally getting him down, I moved on to Attuma. I used Onlsaught against Attuma. The node says there is a 49% chance per hit to have an incinerate/poison applied. I have video, which I don't know how to upload here, that shows EVERY hit was getting an incinerate applied. So either I have the worst rng luck ever..or there's a bug. Any help..or tagging to someone to get it check out before war season starts is greatly appreciated. Thanks

ninos

1. void does passive damage that isnt prevented by decay
2. attuma's ability accuracy can be increased if you stun him

Bendy

U cant ignore damage from void as his damage is from debuffs that get inflicted on u passively so decay does nothing vs that fight if u see void u need immunity as u will just die

Squidopus

Pit_0f_Misery said:

So on path 9 I had Void on my first lower node, then Attuma on the second. Neither are tactic defenders..so I went with Silk with the decay tactic for Void and Onslaught for Attuma. Silk melted like a snowman against Void. Within 30 secs, she had over 12 incinerate/poisons applied to her and that was it. After her untimely death..I tried using Onslaught against him..and to my surprise, Onslaught died from stacks of incinerate damage. After finally getting him down, I moved on to Attuma. I used Onlsaught against Attuma. The node says there is a 49% chance per hit to have an incinerate/poison applied. I have video, which I don't know how to upload here, that shows EVERY hit was getting an incinerate applied. So either I have the worst rng luck ever..or there's a bug. Any help..or tagging to someone to get it check out before war season starts is greatly appreciated. Thanks

For the Void fight, Void deals damage to opponents for each unique debuff they’re suffering. It’s just an ability he has, and it’s one of the few things the decay tactic can’t prevent bc Void’s debuff damage is weird (he’s a pretty old champion honestly, probably just old code that isn’t standardized with other abilities). Note that this is just direct damage, so even if decay Silk or Onslaught have resistance to the damaging debuffs Void still deals his own brand of damage.

Attuma is much simpler. He reverses the effects of ability accuracy modifications and usually has concussion debuffs on himself. If he has two of his personal concussions active (he starts with two at max sig), he gains +100% AA and thus has an 80% chance to trigger the hazard shift debuffs. If he has three or more, he has enough extra AA to guarantee them. If you’re using Onslaught against him you’re probably parrying him a ton and feeding him concussions, so him inflicting debuffs on every hit is actually expected.

Juanmi

Reading abilities is essential.

Pit_0f_Misery

Well..I know how to fight Void. I've taken him on that node PLENTY of times with Silk with decay tactic. I know decay doesn't stop passive debuffs..but his damage doesn't kill you in 30 seconds. I know to do 9 hits and wait his timer then hit him to get rid of thw debuff. This is not an incompetence or inability to read problem. I've been doing path 9 for 4 years now and this us different. Wish I could upload the vid. If anyone knows how to tag a kabam team member in this post so they can at least look into it..it would be appreciated.

Squidopus

Idk man is this the first fight of the path? The one that gives him fury while you have a debuff? That plus a high rank void plus at least 2 debuffs active absolutely sounds like enough to render you dead in 30 seconds. Knowing how to remove Void’s personal debuffs doesn’t save you from dying to his debuff damage off the hazard shift debuffs. You’re welcome to try getting the attention of Kabam but I doubt they’d give it the time of day without some sort of proof given this sounds completely within expectations.

Squidopus

Also ngl kinda hard to believe your claim that you’re a well-versed player who’s done this stuff all the time when you’re shocked that Onslaught’s incinerate resistance didn’t save him from Void or that Attuma has ways to increase his ability accuracy.

Pit_0f_Misery

K..well perhaps I'm just not aware that Void and Attuma are that good there. Guess I'll try them on defense there and see. Thanks for input. Perhaps nothing is wrong and I'm just not as savvy as I thought.

xLunatiXx

Pit_0f_Misery said:

This is not an incompetence or inability to read problem. I've been doing path 9 for 4 years now and this us different.

4 years of path 9 and you don't know the basic interaction of typical placements?
You might want to recheck the 1st sentence.

Magrailothos

Pit_0f_Misery said:

K..well perhaps I'm just not aware that Void and Attuma are that good there. Guess I'll try them on defense there and see. Thanks for input. Perhaps nothing is wrong and I'm just not as savvy as I thought.

Don't sweat it: The Void thing is a common mistake: so much so that, as an old hand in these parts, I knew just from the title (before the thread then opened), that it would be about Void.

It could be worse: you could have made a thread complaining about Spider-champs evading Venom on a Buffet node...

Squidopus

Yeah hope I didn’t come across as too judgmental or mean, I did kinda want to bring it up since you did mention your skill as a reason to believe you. I generally don’t fault people for not knowing things otherwise; the game’s complicated. I like that about the game but it’s a lot to keep track of.

If you want some future advice, Void on hazard shift sorta requires full immunities, resistances like decay don’t cut it. Bring immunities to at least one hazard shift debuff, preferably both, and play around his personal debuffs like usual. Attuma is still Onslaught food on hazard shift, just make sure not to hit him while he inflicts poison debuffs because Onslaught can’t deal with those.

Vegeta9001

Pit_0f_Misery said:

Well..I know how to fight Void. I've taken him on that node PLENTY of times with Silk with decay tactic. I know decay doesn't stop passive debuffs..but his damage doesn't kill you in 30 seconds. I know to do 9 hits and wait his timer then hit him to get rid of thw debuff. This is not an incompetence or inability to read problem. I've been doing path 9 for 4 years now and this us different. Wish I could upload the vid. If anyone knows how to tag a kabam team member in this post so they can at least look into it..it would be appreciated.

His passive damage from any debuffs you receive, not just his own, paired with potentially the opponents despair mastery can melt you instantly. You should know this by now if youve done that path a lot. Decay won't lower the damage you receive from void. You'll be getting the reduced damage from the debuffs, the direct damage from void, and the regen reduction or heal reversal from despair.