Shathra rotation

EdisonLaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfNu-JVTojU

Thoughts?

1. Wasps are scary
2. She is the Galan for Spiderverse champs
3. She is a hard Maestro counter (according to designer). Not sure about Serpent

Nemesis_17

Welp rip my r3 maestro. I think she’ll be alright for serpent but not amazing. Her damage is instant dot bursts which serpent reduces so she definitely won’t nuke him.

captain_rogers

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

Awesomep12

EdisonLaw said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfNu-JVTojU

Thoughts?

1. Wasps are scary
2. She is the Galan for Spiderverse champs
3. She is a hard Maestro counter (according to designer). Not sure about Serpent

Finally a new galan or apoc!!!!!

EdisonLaw

Awesomep12 said:

EdisonLaw said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfNu-JVTojU

Thoughts?

1. Wasps are scary
2. She is the Galan for Spiderverse champs
3. She is a hard Maestro counter (according to designer). Not sure about Serpent

Finally a new galan or apoc!!!!!

We haven't had one for a while

EdisonLaw

Count Nefaria rotation is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlIFRO5YqU

Emilia90

First stream I missed cause of class

Everything looks great though

JLordVileJ

Emilia90 said:

First stream I missed cause of class

Everything looks great though

5 in the afternoon for me, but sometimes I miss cuz of meetings after school

Emilia90

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

She has cool burst. Doesn’t really look mid to me, maestro is still prevalent

NONYABIZZ

Hmmm, we'll see how her damage looks as a 6*. Tired of them showcasing 7* r3 champions as the standard
But I'm happy that the game is doing well

Squidopus

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

Idk she seems to be one of the better ones no? Not that that’s saying much, but atrophy should give her a good way to bypass most of death immunity depending on its potency. She also has power steal to help control his power, some special spam, and good DOT. It’ll all depend on the exact numbers of course but she looks relatively good for the matchup on paper.

WednesdayLength

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

EdisonLaw

Squidopus said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

Idk she seems to be one of the better ones no? Not that that’s saying much, but atrophy should give her a good way to bypass most of death immunity depending on its potency. She also has power steal to help control his power, some special spam, and good DOT. It’ll all depend on the exact numbers of course but she looks relatively good for the matchup on paper.

Her damage seems to be burst though, correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Serpent reduce instant damage potency? She’ll probably be a counter, just not a super fast one

Buttehrs

NONYABIZZ said:

Hmmm, we'll see how her damage looks as a 6*. Tired of them showcasing 7* r3 champions as the standard
But I'm happy that the game is doing well

Because 7* are easy to get now. Even for new and less progressed accounts

Squidopus

EdisonLaw said:

Squidopus said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

Idk she seems to be one of the better ones no? Not that that’s saying much, but atrophy should give her a good way to bypass most of death immunity depending on its potency. She also has power steal to help control his power, some special spam, and good DOT. It’ll all depend on the exact numbers of course but she looks relatively good for the matchup on paper.

Her damage seems to be burst though, correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Serpent reduce instant damage potency? She’ll probably be a counter, just not a super fast one

I was under the impression that her damage was not burst damage but in fact energy DOT that occurred during her specials, sorta like if the opponent was inflicted with an incinerate debuff while you were throwing a special. In that case, you only have to contend with Serpent’s resistance up passive.

EdisonLaw

Squidopus said:

EdisonLaw said:

Squidopus said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

Idk she seems to be one of the better ones no? Not that that’s saying much, but atrophy should give her a good way to bypass most of death immunity depending on its potency. She also has power steal to help control his power, some special spam, and good DOT. It’ll all depend on the exact numbers of course but she looks relatively good for the matchup on paper.

Her damage seems to be burst though, correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Serpent reduce instant damage potency? She’ll probably be a counter, just not a super fast one

I was under the impression that her damage was not burst damage but in fact energy DOT that occurred during her specials, sorta like if the opponent was inflicted with an incinerate debuff while you were throwing a special. In that case, you only have to contend with Serpent’s resistance up passive.

Could be, we’ll see

captain_rogers

Squidopus said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

Idk she seems to be one of the better ones no? Not that that’s saying much, but atrophy should give her a good way to bypass most of death immunity depending on its potency. She also has power steal to help control his power, some special spam, and good DOT. It’ll all depend on the exact numbers of course but she looks relatively good for the matchup on paper.

If her energy damage regen ability triggers in other way, instead of sp3, She could Definitely be a great Serpent counter.

Let's see how she plays out, if her atrophy is atleast 60% potent, it definitely helps against serpent.

EdisonLaw

WednesdayLength said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

Kushala, Kate, Mojo, Kindred, Sym Supreme, there are definitely more than 3, but having more options is never a bad thing

EdisonLaw

EdisonLaw said:

Count Nefaria rotation is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlIFRO5YqU

Thoughts on Nefaria rotation?

WednesdayLength

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

EdisonLaw said:

WednesdayLength said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

Kushala, Kate, Mojo, Kindred, there are definitely more than 3, but having more options is never a bad thing

When people are talking about maestro counters they mean atrophy, of which there are 3 champions plus mojo. I'm not saying there aren't other characters that can beat him, but as counters atrophy is the way to go

Nemesis_17

WednesdayLength said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

Chavez, Kushala, juggs, Cgr, Kate, Sasquatch, Hood, Vox, Shathra, Wolf, sym supreme?

Squidopus

WednesdayLength said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

EdisonLaw said:

WednesdayLength said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

Kushala, Kate, Mojo, Kindred, there are definitely more than 3, but having more options is never a bad thing

When people are talking about maestro counters they mean atrophy, of which there are 3 champions plus mojo. I'm not saying there aren't other characters that can beat him, but as counters atrophy is the way to go

Atrophy is the explicit way outlined in his kit to deal with a lot of his problems. That doesn’t mean it’s the only way to counter him. You can’t act like Mojo and Kushala aren’t counters capable of running hands with Maestro just because they don’t have the specific named effect in his kit.

EdisonLaw

WednesdayLength said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

EdisonLaw said:

WednesdayLength said:

captain_rogers said:

Mid. Doesn't counter serpent, There are million maestro counters. Her energy damage regen is super impractical.

Count nefaria looks great for me.

There are like 3 Maestro counters lmao

Kushala, Kate, Mojo, Kindred, there are definitely more than 3, but having more options is never a bad thing

When people are talking about maestro counters they mean atrophy, of which there are 3 champions plus mojo. I'm not saying there aren't other characters that can beat him, but as counters atrophy is the way to go

Atrophy is a way to counter him but it’s not the only way

PT_99

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

EdisonLaw

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

We’ve had enough bs defenders

captain_rogers

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

Nefaria looks promising. He gains part of regen denied, like scorp, and his damage is energy based nd no one is immune to plasma debuffs. He definitely looks refreshing among other physical attack science powerhouses.

Emilia90

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

They both look like they have good damage though and that’s what’s been lacking this year

Harryatomix

Emilia90 said:

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

They both look like they have good damage though and that’s what’s been lacking this year

What we need the most right now is more Serpent counters.

Harryatomix

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

Nefaria looks promising. He gains part of regen denied, like scorp, and his damage is energy based nd no one is immune to plasma debuffs. He definitely looks refreshing among other physical attack science powerhouses.

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

Nefaria looks promising. He gains part of regen denied, like scorp, and his damage is energy based nd no one is immune to plasma debuffs. He definitely looks refreshing among other physical attack science powerhouses.

I think he will only inflict plasma against mystics for other classes it will be incinerate.

EdisonLaw

Harryatomix said:

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

Nefaria looks promising. He gains part of regen denied, like scorp, and his damage is energy based nd no one is immune to plasma debuffs. He definitely looks refreshing among other physical attack science powerhouses.

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

Nefaria looks promising. He gains part of regen denied, like scorp, and his damage is energy based nd no one is immune to plasma debuffs. He definitely looks refreshing among other physical attack science powerhouses.

I think he will only inflict plasma against mystics for other classes it will be incinerate.

Wait aren’t those plasma debuffs the same as Havok’s plasma detonations?

Harryatomix

EdisonLaw said:

Harryatomix said:

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

Nefaria looks promising. He gains part of regen denied, like scorp, and his damage is energy based nd no one is immune to plasma debuffs. He definitely looks refreshing among other physical attack science powerhouses.

captain_rogers said:

PT_99 said:

Two new showcases, community expected some Serpant counters, got a random Maestro counter for some reason,
And
wizard Neferia who's in science class and is power, regen controller, didn't we got Leader recently who does the same thing? Also neferia showcase states "nasty regen reversal" righttt, when was the last time you saw big regen fight without this node, "healing cannot be reversed?"


Not impressed,
Shathra underwhelming, expected because she's attacker and not defender.

No Serpant counter yet, maybe overreacting but Kabam earned this.

Nefaria looks promising. He gains part of regen denied, like scorp, and his damage is energy based nd no one is immune to plasma debuffs. He definitely looks refreshing among other physical attack science powerhouses.

I think he will only inflict plasma against mystics for other classes it will be incinerate.

Wait aren’t those plasma debuffs the same as Havok’s plasma detonations?

No it is the same one that IMIW has plasma detonations are not the same.