Leader and Patriot
Dirty_Dozz
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What was everyone's opinion of these two? I don't remember seeing much discussion about them, so I was under the impression that they were both "meh", but my alliance raked me over the coals for saying that lol, so I guess I'm wrong?
What are your thoughts on them?
What are your thoughts on them?
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And there's probably no hope for them in the balance program either.
Leader is released near to count, who does everything leader does but better.
So you're right
Tried pulling for Arcade and pulled Sable, Patriot, and Leader 😭 was hoping for a bit of positivity about it, but I guess not lol.
The Leader is quite underrated in my opinion, he is probably one of the best control utility champions of this year, with his AI manipulation via the unique green door mechanic, his heal and power rate reversal, and his ability to block unblockable when awakened. And while his damage isn’t great outside of ideal matchups, he excels in those ideal matchups.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/371994/champion-review-patriot#latest
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/372882/champion-review-the-leader#latest
Leader’s really not as bad as people make him out to be. Needs a buff for his damage but he’s still a solid choice. I don’t have Count Nefaria so I can’t exactly confirm my feelings myself, but despite their overlap I’m confident that even if Leader remains unchanged (do buff him though Kabam pls) he still has room to shine. People are looking too hard at the fact they both counter regen and power gain and ignoring their unique traits, not to mention their methods of control are different anyways (Leader has proper reversal for both and can extract damage from it, whereas Nefaria more so uses regen/power gain as a fuel source for his abilities). I’ve used him as a secutor attacker in war several times and he’s done well despite regen and ability power rate reduction caps theoretically kneecapping him- damage isn’t the end all be all if you can still lock down the fight, and Leader’s degen damage is more than sufficient with a 5 minute time limit. People just can’t handle a champ that doesn’t end fights in 40-50 seconds.
erm, try again
Edit. Lmao.
From my understanding...Leader is built for attack, so the may perform great in the right hands. His damage is garbage. And from what I've seen when he's on defense in BGs, his IS kinda meh, so no lies told. I fought him with CMM and she straight up dragged him.
Not sure about Patriot. Heard he's a good Photon counter..but that's about it.
I'm sure pre release bundles of patriot and leader was considered as one of worst and usage ratio is even worse.
Good times ✅
If Kabam sees less engagement on scuffed heroes then surely they'll ask Balance Program to fix the problem? Surely.
In bgs, Both leader and nefaria handle regen/power gain matches, Bu nefaria does it faster and in short fights you doesn't really need the regen reversal.
Although leader is unique, The number of places he shine is less
I saw something about leader being bugged last week
Patriot completely slipped my mind
The problem with him is, he’s supposed to be a niche counter to Photon, which is theoretically fine. But he doesn’t seem to be better than KP or better than Mantis, both of whom are in the rosters of most advanced players at this point. So how is a niche champ who underperforms supposed to get any playing time?