Who is the most overrated defender in your opinion?

EdisonLaw

For me, it’s Enchantress.

Now before you disagree, yes I know that if she has nodes that prevent you from deactivating her spells, she can definitely be a tough defender. However without nodes? Literally anyone can take her down if you play around her mechanics. It may not be the most ideal matchup but anyone can. Yet people are calling her a Serpent level defender.

What is yours?

JLordVileJ

Dammit I can't remember who but in bg people kept putting this one champ with no defensive properties down and I was so confused for ages
Edit
It was beta Ray bill

Nemesis_17

Red skull (even though I love mine and will r3 him next)

EdisonLaw

JLordVileJ said:

Dammit I can't remember who but in bg people kept putting this one champ with no defensive properties down and I was so confused for ages
Edit
It was beta Ray bill

Bill has little defensive abilities (except if he hits you and you get shocked)

Furrymoosen

I'm with you on Enchantress and she was going to be my pick too. She is unique, but not difficult. The problem is, a passive AI hurts you, and nodes that prevent you from playing into her kit, but standing on her own with nothing to help she really isn't awful.

EdisonLaw

Nemesis_17 said:

Red skull (even though I love mine and will r3 him next)

He is pretty annoying still in my opinion

Buttehrs

JLordVileJ said:

Dammit I can't remember who but in bg people kept putting this one champ with no defensive properties down and I was so confused for ages
Edit
It was beta Ray bill

People like to place the newest champs to trip people up. Kinda makes sense because most people won't be used to their specials and how to dex them or their other mechanics yet, even if they're terrible defenders.

Antoseum10

I see a lot of CGR as defenders, but when you know how to dodge his sp1 he is easy to beat.

EdisonLaw

Antoseum10 said:

I see a lot of CGR as defenders, but when you know how to dodge his sp1 he is easy to beat.

Also the SP2

Asher1_1

EdisonLaw said:

For me, it’s Enchantress.

Now before you disagree, yes I know that if she has nodes that prevent you from deactivating her spells, she can definitely be a tough defender. However without nodes? Literally anyone can take her down if you play around her mechanics. It may not be the most ideal matchup but anyone can. Yet people are calling her a Serpent level defender.

What is yours?

it's not the Node - if ai is too passive & u can't intercept . so many times ai dependent .

my annoying defender is wolf. his ai is weird will howl throw Sp1 weird time and rupture does more damage

Nemesis_17

EdisonLaw said:

Nemesis_17 said:

Red skull (even though I love mine and will r3 him next)

He is pretty annoying still in my opinion

He can be but he has a ton of counters, some of whom you wouldn’t realize work. Cgr, herc, Galan, Hulkling, (just gotta play it differently) gladiator, Adam, vox, BRB, Shuri, Kushala, Chavez, AA, and probably others. He’s still a difficult defender in general but I’m rarely in a scary position if my opponent drafts him.

Emilia90

Enchantress easily. I cook her every time I see her, she’s nowhere near serpent level unless the nodes are super bad

Colinwhitworth69

Photon. Onslaught. Gorr.

Samanun

Maestro, sinister

Polygon

Knull

EdisonLaw

Colinwhitworth69 said:

Photon. Onslaught. Gorr.

Yes especially after Spring of Sorrow Onslaught and Summer of Suffering Photon, people won't be afraid to fight them anymore, but that doesn't mean they won't be continued to be used on defense

JT_Supreme

I played enchantress for the first time in bg and I ko her in 29 seconds with juggs. I can’t believe red skull is mentioned, if I don’t draft cgr kate or hulkling I am cooked.

EdisonLaw

JT_Supreme said:

I played enchantress for the first time in bg and I ko her in 29 seconds with juggs. I can’t believe red skull is mentioned, if I don’t draft cgr kate or hulkling I am cooked.

Yeah she is very nukable since her health isn't that high.

Nemesis_17

Nemesis_17 said:

Red skull (even though I love mine and will r3 him next)

Ok I just realized the title said most overrated defender and not just an overrated defender, so I wouldn’t say red skull is the top 1 most overrated defender but I do think he’s easier than the common consensus of him.

Idk who is #1 imo, while I see enchantress mentioned a lot that’s exactly why I don’t think it’s her. If everyone says she’s overrated then is she really still overrated?

ChiefGoat

Serpent is the most overrated! Exactly why he did not get nerfed, he didn’t need to be nerfed. People just needed to figure out how to beat him. White tiger easily finishes fights at max health.

EdisonLaw

ChiefGoat said:

Serpent is the most overrated! Exactly why he did not get nerfed, he didn’t need to be nerfed. People just needed to figure out how to beat him. White tiger easily finishes fights at max health.

That's because White Tiger is one of his best counters. Try fighting him without using one of his counters and see if you take over 60 secs

Nemesis_17

ChiefGoat said:

Serpent is the most overrated! Exactly why he did not get nerfed, he didn’t need to be nerfed. People just needed to figure out how to beat him. White tiger easily finishes fights at max health.

Finishing full health means almost nothing if you take 80s to end the fight

Samanun

ChiefGoat said:

Serpent is the most overrated! Exactly why he did not get nerfed, he didn’t need to be nerfed. People just needed to figure out how to beat him. White tiger easily finishes fights at max health.

The problem is not getting a counter he’s the only defender in the game where i’ve had people (on many many occasions) just leave the match if they didn't draft a counter

He also doesn’t have a lot of counters

Friendly001

Midchantress

Jeancrb

Baron Zemo, but I think people understood now and I see him less in defense than before

EdisonLaw

Jeancrb said:

Baron Zemo, but I think people understood now and I see him less in defense than before

He might make a comeback as a 7*

Nojokejaym

Serpent

BringPopcorn

I'll admit enchantress has a potential to be extremely annoying on another metas, this one is not it ..

Beewee

Korg for me. I don't think he's aged well at all. Most people are good enough to where he can be taken with debuff heavy science champs

EdisonLaw

Beewee said:

Korg for me. I don't think he's aged well at all. Most people are good enough to where he can be taken with debuff heavy science champs

Yeah Attuma seems to be the new and improved Korg

PantherusNZ

Beewee said:

Korg for me. I don't think he's aged well at all. Most people are good enough to where he can be taken with debuff heavy science champs

In the age of light intercepting being standard, he's far less of a threat.