Can Kingpin purify passive disorient?

Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 177
I am using 5 star Kingpin sig 40 in map 6 ( no synergy).
The nodes aee having that blocking a defender attack cause passive disorient for 10 sec.
I brought Kingpin thinking that it can purify it but it didn't.

Just curious and for future reference, wanted to confirm if Kingpin can purify passive debuffs?

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  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 177
    What about nodes which inflict disorient upon blocking? Can that disorient be purified by Kingpin?
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,084 ★★★★★

    What about nodes which inflict disorient upon blocking? Can that disorient be purified by Kingpin?

    If it is a debuff, yes, but not if it is a passive.
    And what if I bring Kingpin with full synergy? Still passive wont be purified?
    Yes passive’s can’t.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 846 ★★★★
    No, he is unable to purify passives regardless of synergies.
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 177
    Thank you guys. Appreciate it
  • LokxLokx Member Posts: 1,404 ★★★★
    No champ in game can purify passive. Similarly no champs in game can nullify, fate-seal or stagger passives. Passives can only be prevented through immunities. So no matter how strong someones purify is, passives are never effected by it.
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 874 ★★★★
    Lokx said:

    No champ in game can purify passive. Similarly no champs in game can nullify, fate-seal or stagger passives. Passives can only be prevented through immunities. So no matter how strong someones purify is, passives are never effected by it.

    Several tech champs can remove passive prowess. Nimrod, Viv, and Ironheart at least, maybe more. Didn’t feel like checking every single one.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,424 ★★★★★
    Ortoun said:

    Lokx said:

    No champ in game can purify passive. Similarly no champs in game can nullify, fate-seal or stagger passives. Passives can only be prevented through immunities. So no matter how strong someones purify is, passives are never effected by it.

    Several tech champs can remove passive prowess. Nimrod, Viv, and Ironheart at least, maybe more. Didn’t feel like checking every single one.
    That isn't the conversation. That's removing passives, not purifying them.
  • BEA5T_FURYBEA5T_FURY Member Posts: 140
    Kingpin won't purify passives no one can if it's a debuff only then can he purify it unless his aa is lowered passively like in case of while fighting apoc where his purify is rendered useless
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 874 ★★★★

    Ortoun said:

    Lokx said:

    No champ in game can purify passive. Similarly no champs in game can nullify, fate-seal or stagger passives. Passives can only be prevented through immunities. So no matter how strong someones purify is, passives are never effected by it.

    Several tech champs can remove passive prowess. Nimrod, Viv, and Ironheart at least, maybe more. Didn’t feel like checking every single one.
    That isn't the conversation. That's removing passives, not purifying them.
    It's a direct response to saying no champs can nullify passives, and while it's technically a removal, it's functionally the same thing, maybe read the quote that was replied to.
  • Archit_1812Archit_1812 Member Posts: 609 ★★
    Lokx said:

    No champ in game can purify passive. Similarly no champs in game can nullify, fate-seal or stagger passives. Passives can only be prevented through immunities. So no matter how strong someones purify is, passives are never effected by it.

    Buff immune champions can still gain passive buff effects.
  • tnair2015tnair2015 Member Posts: 161 ★★
    Siliyo said:

    Champions cannot purify passives, only debuffs

    Nick Fury ?
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 764 ★★★
    tnair2015 said:

    Siliyo said:

    Champions cannot purify passives, only debuffs

    Nick Fury ?
    He removes all effects. He can't purify
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 642 ★★★★
    edited November 26
    Well might as well try to clear things up.

    In this game, a passive is explicitly defined as something that is neither a buff nor a debuff. Thus, referring to something as a “passive buff” or a “passive debuff” is an oxymoron; it doesn’t exist in MCOC terminology, and you won’t find such wording used anywhere except some scant examples from before Kabam ironed out their wording.

    Because these three things are completely distinct categories with no overlap, abilities that are directly stated to only interact with one of these won’t interact with the other. Purify removes debuffs, it cannot remove passives because passives are not debuffs. Nullify removes buffs, but again can’t remove passives because those aren’t buffs. Buff immunity and debuff immunity prevent buffs and debuffs, not passives. You get the point. Most abilities will clarify whether a given effect is a buff/debuff or a passive, but if it doesn’t you can still tell when the effect shows up on the HUD. Buffs and debuffs have a solid border around their icon (usually white or a lighter version of the icon’s color), whereas passives are a solid circle with no distinct border at all.


    Example. Red Skull has armor up buffs and a (parry) stun debuff. Those icons have a noticeably solid white border around them. He also has a shock passive and an auto-block passive, which are a fully solid color with no distinct border.

    And a final note, yes there are passive versions of buffs/debuffs. Angela gains fury buffs while Hulk gains fury passives. Storm inflicts shock debuffs while Beta Ray Bill inflicts shock passives. While the passive version may have the same functionality, they’re still passives and that means they interact differently as described above. For example, Silver Surfer reduces the potency of shock debuffs by -100%. As such, he’d take reduced damage from Storm’s shock debuffs, but BRB’s shock passives would still do the same damage as normal.
  • LokxLokx Member Posts: 1,404 ★★★★
    edited November 26
    Ortoun said:

    Ortoun said:

    Lokx said:

    No champ in game can purify passive. Similarly no champs in game can nullify, fate-seal or stagger passives. Passives can only be prevented through immunities. So no matter how strong someones purify is, passives are never effected by it.

    Several tech champs can remove passive prowess. Nimrod, Viv, and Ironheart at least, maybe more. Didn’t feel like checking every single one.
    That isn't the conversation. That's removing passives, not purifying them.
    It's a direct response to saying no champs can nullify passives, and while it's technically a removal, it's functionally the same thing, maybe read the quote that was replied to.
    Nullify isn’t the same as removing. You are correct i did overlook champs that can remove passive prowess but it’s not the same as nullify.

    They’re also technically removing the effect. It’s different from nullify and all that.
  • LokxLokx Member Posts: 1,404 ★★★★

    Lokx said:

    No champ in game can purify passive. Similarly no champs in game can nullify, fate-seal or stagger passives. Passives can only be prevented through immunities. So no matter how strong someones purify is, passives are never effected by it.

    Buff immune champions can still gain passive buff effects.
    Passive and buffs are not the same. Passive/Buffs/Debuffs are all classified as effects. They can be negative effects or positive effects.

    If a champ is buff immune it doesn’t mean they are immune to an effect. Just the effect when classified as a buff.
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,182 ★★★★★
    None of this is confusing at all.

    I have a simpler version.

    No but yes sometimes unless you can't.
  • Villain_87Villain_87 Member Posts: 165
    They cant purify passive debuffs thats why they are called passive
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