So much for this " will break the game economy"

Do kabam has some personal problem with higher progression levels? Specially valiants?

For every event I see posts saying reducing cost of this cost of that will break the game economy.

How about banquet event granting 6 tier 4 alpha( from solo and realm) to the thronebreakers who spend units to reach the milestone.

I am not saying of the 7 stars and even class tier 6 selectors.. but 6 tier 4 alpha for Tb and below who spend units isn't it game breaking? That means 2 r3 which is the requirement of valiant 2 progression higher than tb.

Specially when even for valiants these tier 4 alpha are still kind of endgame content.

Leave tier 4 alpha, kabam finds anything below 52500 bg tokens for a single 7 star for valiants will break the game.

For probably the 1st time in mcoc I think the effort to get to valiant has been total waste, considering how lower progressions can just get things so easily at par with valiants.

Despite thousands of suggestions they Still didn't make seperate brackets for seperate progressions.

Uncollected with r2 in profiles. And I am sure this is not even close to the craziest profiles post banquet. Share if you guys have any.

Everyone having worst banquet - well still can be acceptable
Lower progression having worst banquet - well at least getting to higher progression was worth it
Higher progression having worst banquet and lower progression best-
Something no game wants this to happen specially in their 10th anniversary.

Sorry for this if you find this post unnecessary, but this year's banquet has been the worst for me. Kinda takes the interest in playing mcoc, the game I personally loved a lot, knowing that higher progression has no certain " higher progression only rewards".

Comments

Terminatrix

A lot of us have been expressing our disappointment with Kabam and this BLANDquet. They were more geared towards TB's getting r3's than they were for Valiants getting r4's

Theruneking

The worst part is that, kabam will always be silent no matter how many posts, how many valiants are affected. Only their response will be " we think the event was quite successful thank you for your feedback"

Terminatrix

The worst part is that, kabam will always be silent no matter how many posts, how many valiants are affected. Only their response will be " we think the event was quite successful thank you for your feedback"

Yup. And will defend themselves, feeling right for what they did.

Asher1_1

Are u dumb ?? For a game to do good

They need more players & more players need descent pace to get higher - if it was too hard (what it used to be ) people would quit .

So now it's easy - people have just done the challenge & become valiant in less than a month with 8hr+ of grind ,so casual players can do that in 1 year

More new players - more chance to earn money - more % to make money 🤷

Furrymoosen

Are u dumb ?? For a game to do good

They need more players & more players need descent pace to get higher - if it was too hard (what it used to be ) people would quit .

So now it's easy - people have just done the challenge & become valiant in less than a month with 8hr+ of grind ,so casual players can do that in 1 year

More new players - more chance to earn money - more % to make money 🤷

The problem is their approach over the last year or so isn't making anything less hard, it's making a lot of things too easy. There's a reason there are so many TB accounts with absurd rosters and no grandmaster kill. Kabam has actively and intentionally trivialized early content (something that could actually qualify for a sense of accomplishment) and are constantly telling players that story content won't have any impact on your ability to grow your roster. The gap between TB and Valiant is so absurdly small that it's a bit irresponsible at this point. A full TB alliance could compete in high level AW and BGs without having as much skill as they should need. And then as soon as something is a challenge, those players are on here crying about it because they haven't had to do something hard yet, because the incentive to do something hard doesn't help propel you forward in the same way it once did.

startropics

A lot of us have been expressing our disappointment with Kabam and this BLANDquet. They were more geared towards TB's getting r3's than they were for Valiants getting r4's

of course! lol

the only people getting the first taste of a new rank will have to shell out $40,000+ for one.

you think they're going to make the first r4s so cheap that the rest of us scrub valiants are going to get them?? that would insane, they'd lose 70-80% of the money they'd make from this rank if it was that accessible right from the gate.

startropics

The worst part is that, kabam will always be silent no matter how many posts, how many valiants are affected. Only their response will be " we think the event was quite successful thank you for your feedback"

do numbers lie? it was so successful they had to extend the global milestones.

Perfect_jab

I agree with this post. Kabam ruined the game about a year ago. An as much as they try to make up for it, they come off sounding dumb. Went from 6* R5s Being the best thing an that timeline was very very short. Then jumping into 7* r3s! Now accts are stacked with all R3s max sig. I personally dont have that many R3s. An im bored with the game majority of the month. Nothing to really do that keeps my interest. All these ranked up strong champs an nothing to use them on. Waste.

Bendy

Do kabam has some personal problem with higher progression levels? Specially valiants?

For every event I see posts saying reducing cost of this cost of that will break the game economy.

How about banquet event granting 6 tier 4 alpha( from solo and realm) to the thronebreakers who spend units to reach the milestone.

I am not saying of the 7 stars and even class tier 6 selectors.. but 6 tier 4 alpha for Tb and below who spend units isn't it game breaking? That means 2 r3 which is the requirement of valiant 2 progression higher than tb.

Specially when even for valiants these tier 4 alpha are still kind of endgame content.

Leave tier 4 alpha, kabam finds anything below 52500 bg tokens for a single 7 star for valiants will break the game.

For probably the 1st time in mcoc I think the effort to get to valiant has been total waste, considering how lower progressions can just get things so easily at par with valiants.

Despite thousands of suggestions they Still didn't make seperate brackets for seperate progressions.

Uncollected with r2 in profiles. And I am sure this is not even close to the craziest profiles post banquet. Share if you guys have any.

Everyone having worst banquet - well still can be acceptable
Lower progression having worst banquet - well at least getting to higher progression was worth it
Higher progression having worst banquet and lower progression best-
Something no game wants this to happen specially in their 10th anniversary.

Sorry for this if you find this post unnecessary, but this year's banquet has been the worst for me. Kinda takes the interest in playing mcoc, the game I personally loved a lot, knowing that higher progression has no certain " higher progression only rewards".

That isnt about breaking the economy, breaking it be a lot higher t7b where day 1 u would see 20 r4 7s

Chuck_Finley

Probably fair to say titles don’t matter anymore. What matters is $$$ and chase items in carina type content completed as early as possible. If you aren’t participating in those two things consistently,. you aren’t at the top progression. Just like rewards and materials depreciate, so do titles, rosters, etc. Kabam, by not putting gates on progressions and busting down the top official title (currently valiant), has essentially said as much.

You are either playing the $$$/carina game or you are lumped in with everyone else.

Theruneking

Are u dumb ?? For a game to do good

They need more players & more players need descent pace to get higher - if it was too hard (what it used to be ) people would quit .

So now it's easy - people have just done the challenge & become valiant in less than a month with 8hr+ of grind ,so casual players can do that in 1 year

More new players - more chance to earn money - more % to make money 🤷

Yes it is easy to get to valiant but that's no excuse to distribute same 7 star r3s to uncollected. That devalues the title completely.

captain_rogers

An uncollected title with 2 7* r2 can auto play their way to cavailer, or atleast act 5.4. This is what kabam wants I think. Then don't cry if the same player say endgame is tough.

BigBlueOx

A lot of us have been expressing our disappointment with Kabam and this BLANDquet. They were more geared towards TB's getting r3's than they were for Valiants getting r4's

Might as well lump Uncollected back into the end game at this point…

This is 1000% the problem with building realm events to have spicy end game rewards. It is game breaking to devalue the early game this much.

BigBlueOx

Well actually devalues the entire fighting elements of the game is a more accurate statement. People auto fighting all the way to Act 6… might as well call it the marvel contest of collecting if this is the future of the game

klobberintyme

it's funny. you can work literally years to get a high enough war rating with the added stress of tactics and bans and planning and chads and edgelords yelling at you to do this and that for months for a chance at these rewards

and all you had to do all this time was have some units handy and be in the right alliance during banquet. in the end, those that enjoy the chase will chase, those that just want rewards will wait out their opportunities. hey, like IRL.

Emilia90

I agree with this post. Kabam ruined the game about a year ago. An as much as they try to make up for it, they come off sounding dumb. Went from 6* R5s Being the best thing a that timeline was very very short. Then jumping into 7* r3s! Now accts are stacked with all R3s max sig. I personally dont have that many R3s. An im bored with the game majority of the month. Nothing to really do that keeps my interest. All these ranked up strong champs a nothing to use them on. Waste.

The 7* r3 rollout was really healthy imo. And ofc accounts at stacked with r3 max sigs, people who pay have always had that. This isn’t a discussion about valiant whales getting a ton though so I’m not sure what this had to do with OP

But yes OP I agree. I’m not sure why there’s an insistence of keeping TB in the mix and not giving valiants their own crystal. Unfortunately that’s always how it’s been. The crystal and rewards have always been general and available to any progression tier to get for every year the banquet/gifting has been active

Bendy

I agree with this post. Kabam ruined the game about a year ago. An as much as they try to make up for it, they come off sounding dumb. Went from 6* R5s Being the best thing a that timeline was very very short. Then jumping into 7* r3s! Now accts are stacked with all R3s max sig. I personally dont have that many R3s. An im bored with the game majority of the month. Nothing to really do that keeps my interest. All these ranked up strong champs a nothing to use them on. Waste.
The 7* r3 rollout was really healthy imo. And ofc accounts at stacked with r3 max sigs, people who pay have always had that. This isn’t a discussion about valiant whales getting a ton though so I’m not sure what this had to do with OP

But yes OP I agree. I’m not sure why there’s an insistence of keeping TB in the mix and not giving valiants their own crystal. Unfortunately that’s always how it’s been. The crystal and rewards have always been general and available to any progression tier to get for every year the banquet/gifting has been active

Maybe its time to start tiers in this event

Bungo

I just wish kabam would release/unlock next endgame progression before to making more catch-up mechanics for lower progressions because making valiant is too easy rn.

Bendy

I just wish kabam would release/unlock next endgame progression before to making more catch-up mechanics for lower progressions because making valiant is too easy rn.

Thats what it used to be like

Bugmat78

Are u dumb ?? For a game to do good

They need more players & more players need descent pace to get higher - if it was too hard (what it used to be ) people would quit .

So now it's easy - people have just done the challenge & become valiant in less than a month with 8hr+ of grind ,so casual players can do that in 1 year

More new players - more chance to earn money - more % to make money 🤷

So why didn't most players quit before? How did we reach 10 years or even 8 (when the game was made easier with changes to how progression was achieved)?

This game has never had a problem attracting or retaining most of the players who try it, because the game mechanics (even bugged) and characters (with their steady release cadence) are better than many other mobile action games.

Ercarret

The hottest take I can muster on this subject is that I don't give a hoot what Thronebreakers get from this event, as long as I am happy with what I got from it. And I am, so I'm largely cool with how everything turned out. I share the community sentiment that the crystals themselves were dog trash, but I also liked the milestones for the various events enough for the trashy crystals to matter very little in the grand scheme of things.

GroundedWisdom

This comes up every Banquet/Gifting, and it never throws the game off.
You can grind and wait, or you can spend. That's been true as long as the game has been going.
Having the Champs is not a substitute for the gameplay they'll have to go through, and Players having an easier time than we did is just how it works. Ask any of us who saved a year or more to get a 5*.
Things always balance out in the end. There's no use stressing about what other Accounts get.

Kingering_King

Do kabam has some personal problem with higher progression levels? Specially valiants?

For every event I see posts saying reducing cost of this cost of that will break the game economy.

How about banquet event granting 6 tier 4 alpha( from solo and realm) to the thronebreakers who spend units to reach the milestone.

I am not saying of the 7 stars and even class tier 6 selectors.. but 6 tier 4 alpha for Tb and below who spend units isn't it game breaking? That means 2 r3 which is the requirement of valiant 2 progression higher than tb.

Specially when even for valiants these tier 4 alpha are still kind of endgame content.

Leave tier 4 alpha, kabam finds anything below 52500 bg tokens for a single 7 star for valiants will break the game.

For probably the 1st time in mcoc I think the effort to get to valiant has been total waste, considering how lower progressions can just get things so easily at par with valiants.

Despite thousands of suggestions they Still didn't make seperate brackets for seperate progressions.

Uncollected with r2 in profiles. And I am sure this is not even close to the craziest profiles post banquet. Share if you guys have any.

Everyone having worst banquet - well still can be acceptable
Lower progression having worst banquet - well at least getting to higher progression was worth it
Higher progression having worst banquet and lower progression best-
Something no game wants this to happen specially in their 10th anniversary.

Sorry for this if you find this post unnecessary, but this year's banquet has been the worst for me. Kinda takes the interest in playing mcoc, the game I personally loved a lot, knowing that higher progression has no certain " higher progression only rewards".

During cyber I knew a guy with r3 duped kraven at uncollected, then second r3 at cav

altavista

I personally never look forward to the Banquet, as the crappy feeling of opening SBC doesn't make up for objectively good value rewards from the milestones (same feeling as Rift type SQs). Even if a player technically gets more from rewards from milestones per unit spend compared to Cyber Week/4th of July, the negative feelings of seeing yet another T6cc fragment makes me feel like I am getting less.

But.... every year, players like to build up the Banquet, and then get surprised that math suddenly exists.

Every year players expect a Non-progression based event to be Progression based.
Every year, players know going in that the rewards are guaranteed Milestones + RNG crystals. Yet, every year people complain after deciding to spend units and open crystals because players didn't pull items that had <5% chance of occurring.
Every year there are posts complaining about how "Lowest" progression has access to "Higher" progression rewards, and this will cause the game to collapse (and every year it doesn't).
Every year, there are posts complaining about how Banquet devalues their "investment" (and every year it either doesn't or they keep playing as normal).

For a NON-PROGRESSION locked event, this event is pretty good for what it is. Maybe it should be progression locked, but ultimately that is a decision Kabam has avoided for Banquet events.

Side note: For all the Valiants who keep arguing that their *old* Valiant status is worth more than a *new* Valiant who 'buys' their way in ... why? Everything in this game is either time vs money (grinding arena vs buying units; buying offers vs completing everest content; <i class="Italic">buying revives vs grinding for revives), so why is suddenly a Progression title any different?

Theruneking

I personally never look forward to the Banquet, as the crappy feeling of opening SBC doesn't make up for objectively good value rewards from the milestones (same feeling as Rift type SQs). Even if a player technically gets more from rewards from milestones per unit spend compared to Cyber Week/4th of July, the negative feelings of seeing yet another T6cc fragment makes me feel like I am getting less.

But.... every year, players like to build up the Banquet, and then get surprised that math suddenly exists.

Every year players expect a Non-progression based event to be Progression based.
Every year, players know going in that the rewards are guaranteed Milestones + RNG crystals. Yet, every year people complain after deciding to spend units and open crystals because players didn't pull items that had <5% chance of occurring.
Every year there are posts complaining about how "Lowest" progression has access to "Higher" progression rewards, and this will cause the game to collapse (and every year it doesn't).
Every year, there are posts complaining about how Banquet devalues their "investment" (and every year it either doesn't or they keep playing as normal).

For a NON-PROGRESSION locked event, this event is pretty good for what it is. Maybe it should be progression locked, but ultimately that is a decision Kabam has avoided for Banquet events.

Side note: For all the Valiants who keep arguing that their *old* Valiant status is worth more than a *new* Valiant who 'buys' their way in ... why? Everything in this game is either time vs money (grinding arena vs buying units; buying offers vs completing everest content; <i class="Italic">buying revives vs grinding for revives), so why is suddenly a Progression title any different?

1. So if every year this happens should kabam not listen and take some steps towards the banquet event? This continuing every year means kabam kept silence every year.
2. This year is different from past years-
There has never been such a mass dissatisfaction about banquet in past not even previous year, if you look at the post in forums, discord, YouTube's etc you will know.Last year was primarily 6 star based whereas this year is 7 star. Till now grouping all tiers was acceptable but where end game rewards like 7 star r3 are there in milestones, there is no way tb and below should be included in that.

3. Time vs money. ( Don't know how many times I saw this comment came up to defend some lame decision)

1 7 star from bg 52500 bg tokens for valiant( how many days)
3 r4 alpha from autumn of agony( how many days?)
Check the alliance war master rewards. Uncollected are getting that in banquet.You think collecting units all year has more value than the effort required to be in master alliance?

Those who spend time focussing on different events seems to get terrible outcomes compared to those low progression spending times collecting units and saving throughout the year to spend at banquet.

Case scenario- Both are f2p, one valiant gets 50k bg tokens every bg season, placed in master tier alliance sees all those rewards are for uc too just they did arena and waited for banquet. How that sounds? If from these you can't understand, then making you understand is beyond my capabilities.

This banquet would not have Been a problem at all if throughout the year every mode of the game was up to date with rewards.

For valiants most of the game mode has terrible below standard rewards-
Battleground, aw, thronebreaker eq etc.

And there comes banquet open for all progression with units where rewards are better than whole years effort with much less units.