Deathless Pieces

Jol_of_NyJol_of_Ny Member Posts: 2
Is there a plan to allow missing pieces to be gained for those that weren’t around for the content? Maybe just make it permanent content? Or add them to the store with an alternative way to get them other than dropping $200? Seems silly to pay wall that content.

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  • PantherusNZPantherusNZ Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★★
    It's not paywalled - it's for units. You just gotta grind for them. It sucks, but that's how it is. We might get more chances in the future but for now...to the Arena-Mobile!
  • EquintsEquints Member Posts: 139
    The pieces can be easilly obtained through a good amount of grinding in areana so its not really paywalled if you put in effort. Plus the reason its like this is to make sure the people who worked hard to make it to the point of deathless thanos are rewarded for their efforts. They did say something about there being Something around late 2025 early or some point in 2026.
  • RicoShayRicoShay Member Posts: 253 ★★★
    Equints said:

    The pieces can be easilly obtained through a good amount of grinding in areana so its not really paywalled if you put in effort. Plus the reason its like this is to make sure the people who worked hard to make it to the point of deathless thanos are rewarded for their efforts. They did say something about there being Something around late 2025 early or some point in 2026.

    Easily is a very strange word choice here to be truly honest. I agree fully that we should be allowed to use him as a premium character for the work we put into deathless and the commitment to the game but the gatekeeping and inaccessibility to the players who missed out is a fair concern even with kabam announcing it long ago. DThanos is likely to be a meta shaker in Bg's and now the only accessibility to obtaining some pieces like the mailed in ones is through units amounting to either a lot of time or a lot of money. 5k units a piece isn't some trivial amount of units to the greater playerbase and some players will be missing 4 maybe even 5 or 6 which is a crazy investment to get a character. I don't see kabam granting deathless pieces any time soon and fair enough but it does raise a fair point on exclusivity and time/money in the contest.
  • EquintsEquints Member Posts: 139
    edited January 10
    RicoShay said:

    Equints said:

    The pieces can be easilly obtained through a good amount of grinding in areana so its not really paywalled if you put in effort. Plus the reason its like this is to make sure the people who worked hard to make it to the point of deathless thanos are rewarded for their efforts. They did say something about there being Something around late 2025 early or some point in 2026.

    Easily is a very strange word choice here to be truly honest. I agree fully that we should be allowed to use him as a premium character for the work we put into deathless and the commitment to the game but the gatekeeping and inaccessibility to the players who missed out is a fair concern even with kabam announcing it long ago. DThanos is likely to be a meta shaker in Bg's and now the only accessibility to obtaining some pieces like the mailed in ones is through units amounting to either a lot of time or a lot of money. 5k units a piece isn't some trivial amount of units to the greater playerbase and some players will be missing 4 maybe even 5 or 6 which is a crazy investment to get a character. I don't see kabam granting deathless pieces any time soon and fair enough but it does raise a fair point on exclusivity and time/money in the contest.
    I agree with your statement on how the exclusivity within the contest currently stands. Although, they did make the point at the beginning of this that not everyone would be able to do this, whether its rosters or coming late to the chase. So whether or not they made the choice to quit the game beforehand or decided not to take place in the chase was up to them. I am glad they will atleast be able to access it later down the line.
  • EquintsEquints Member Posts: 139
    Folkvangr said:

    Jol_of_Ny said:

    Worked hard? They spent 30 minutes completing a quest that’s no longer available. I’d gladly complete the quest if it were available. Just think it’s silly to have temporary content be the only way to obtain such a rare item, that’s needed to clear other content that is not temporary.

    Then you should have completed it when it was available
    Agreed
  • Denic_2580Denic_2580 Member Posts: 41
    edited January 10
    Almost all games have seasonal offers, unique offers that don't repeat later.

    I think it's worth accepting the fact that you missed the opportunity to get certain heroes because you didn't see their value in advance.

    Otherwise, in the next such event, everyone will think that the reward in it can be obtained in some other way.
  • EquintsEquints Member Posts: 139
    edited January 10
    Folkvangr said:

    Jol_of_Ny said:

    Worked hard? They spent 30 minutes completing a quest that’s no longer available. I’d gladly complete the quest if it were available. Just think it’s silly to have temporary content be the only way to obtain such a rare item, that’s needed to clear other content that is not temporary.

    Then you should have completed it when it was available
    Agreed
    ofcOli said:

    Everybody has a good point for each side, but can we at least all agree that 5k per piece is an absurde amount of Units just to get the Champs?
    Surely the can not give them up for free but i think 2k per piece would be an acceptable Price For both Kabam and the playerbase.

    5k surpisingly isnt that much, for example i missed out on the deathless king groot piece from sos by one point, but after a 3 week grind i had accumulated 5k units.
  • ofcOliofcOli Member Posts: 10
    We‘ll if you are short of 1 it‘s still a lot but i guess for the greater sake its okay.
    I you are short on 4 or more i wouldn‘t say 5 k is okay.
    And aside of that, nor everybody has got the time to grind for the Units in a short amount of time
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,983 ★★★★
    The cost of the pieces isn't necessarily supposed to be fair, it was always an incentive to get them the way they were supposed to be obtained originally. You could get every piece for free if you were actively playing and pushing for them and whilst they'll probably come back eventually for now they're only for people that pushed our paid to catch up.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,931 ★★★★★
    Jol_of_Ny said:

    Worked hard? They spent 30 minutes completing a quest that’s no longer available. I’d gladly complete the quest if it were available. Just think it’s silly to have temporary content be the only way to obtain such a rare item, that’s needed to clear other content that is not temporary.

    Share your tips for advancing to gc in 30 minutes please.
  • ofcOliofcOli Member Posts: 10
    Okay all things aside, but why is the Maestro dup also hidden behind the deathless bar?


    The necro initially didn’t have anything to do with the deathless Champs and there are a lot of arguments why the deathless pieces aren’t obtainable now or just for a huge amount of units.
    So why is Maestro there?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,890 ★★★★★
    ofcOli said:

    Okay all things aside, but why is the Maestro dup also hidden behind the deathless bar?


    The necro initially didn’t have anything to do with the deathless Champs and there are a lot of arguments why the deathless pieces aren’t obtainable now or just for a huge amount of units.
    So why is Maestro there?

    You can use an awakening gem on maestro which is not paywalled. Maestro dupe is irrelevant compared to the grand scheme of thing anyways.

    And you definitely will get acess to deathless champ without spending 5k units a piece. You just have to wait for atleast a year though.
  • ofcOliofcOli Member Posts: 10
    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,994 ★★★★★
    ofcOli said:

    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.

    It's not hidden if it was communicated. Which it was.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,994 ★★★★★
    ofcOli said:

    We‘ll if you are short of 1 it‘s still a lot but i guess for the greater sake its okay.
    I you are short on 4 or more i wouldn‘t say 5 k is okay.
    And aside of that, nor everybody has got the time to grind for the Units in a short amount of time

    Everyone has whatever time is available to them to commit as much of it as they want to grinding units. If that's not what they want to do, that's fine. But what "short amount of time" is there to grind towards permanent content? The mausoleum and Carina challenges aren't going anywhere. There's no deadline to rush to be at.
  • ofcOliofcOli Member Posts: 10

    ofcOli said:

    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.

    It's not hidden if it was communicated. Which it was.
    Okay so i guess i just didn‘t get it right.
    I thought it‘ll be available in any sort of content, i didn‘t know that they said it would be in the deathless content.
    And as for quick grind, yes it is permanent content but its kind of frustrating to see the majority of players get thanks while you sit on the sidelines and wait a year to get a second Chance.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,931 ★★★★★
    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.

    It's not hidden if it was communicated. Which it was.
    Okay so i guess i just didn‘t get it right.
    I thought it‘ll be available in any sort of content, i didn‘t know that they said it would be in the deathless content.
    And as for quick grind, yes it is permanent content but its kind of frustrating to see the majority of players get thanks while you sit on the sidelines and wait a year to get a second Chance.
    It’s definitely not a majority of players or even close to it.
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,491 ★★★★★
    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.

    It's not hidden if it was communicated. Which it was.
    Okay so i guess i just didn‘t get it right.
    I thought it‘ll be available in any sort of content, i didn‘t know that they said it would be in the deathless content.
    And as for quick grind, yes it is permanent content but its kind of frustrating to see the majority of players get thanks while you sit on the sidelines and wait a year to get a second Chance.
    ^ stuff like THIS is why participation trophies are bad.

    It's frustrating why? Because we did the content and you didn't, but now you don't have what the people that did it have, so you're frustrated sitting on the sidelines watching the players who put in the time and effort to get them, actually get to play with their new champs?
    Are you kidding me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
  • ofcOliofcOli Member Posts: 10

    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.

    It's not hidden if it was communicated. Which it was.
    Okay so i guess i just didn‘t get it right.
    I thought it‘ll be available in any sort of content, i didn‘t know that they said it would be in the deathless content.
    And as for quick grind, yes it is permanent content but its kind of frustrating to see the majority of players get thanks while you sit on the sidelines and wait a year to get a second Chance.
    ^ stuff like THIS is why participation trophies are bad.

    It's frustrating why? Because we did the content and you didn't, but now you don't have what the people that did it have, so you're frustrated sitting on the sidelines watching the players who put in the time and effort to get them, actually get to play with their new champs?
    Are you kidding me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    We‘ll i did try, but because of a longer hiatus of the game i returned just as the deathless thing startet and wasn’t able to get the pieces because of a weak roster.
    In due time i caught up with the endgame content but as it turned out i now end up frustrated waiting.
    So i think its not fair to say you put in some effort and i didn’t.
    It was just a bad timing on my restart.
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,491 ★★★★★
    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.

    It's not hidden if it was communicated. Which it was.
    Okay so i guess i just didn‘t get it right.
    I thought it‘ll be available in any sort of content, i didn‘t know that they said it would be in the deathless content.
    And as for quick grind, yes it is permanent content but its kind of frustrating to see the majority of players get thanks while you sit on the sidelines and wait a year to get a second Chance.
    ^ stuff like THIS is why participation trophies are bad.

    It's frustrating why? Because we did the content and you didn't, but now you don't have what the people that did it have, so you're frustrated sitting on the sidelines watching the players who put in the time and effort to get them, actually get to play with their new champs?
    Are you kidding me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    We‘ll i did try, but because of a longer hiatus of the game i returned just as the deathless thing startet and wasn’t able to get the pieces because of a weak roster.
    In due time i caught up with the endgame content but as it turned out i now end up frustrated waiting.
    So i think its not fair to say you put in some effort and i didn’t.
    It was just a bad timing on my restart.
    I'm not saying you didn't put any effort in, I have no doubt that you did.

    However, alot of people also either didn't quite have the roster or skills or time or whatever to get the champs, while alot of other did make sure to grind for the champs.
    Most of the pieces weren't that hard to get, though some were obviously harder than others.
    The point is that those who did grind out the harder to get pieces absolutely deserve the champs, and those who didn't grind for them, absolutely didn't deserve to get them.

    Eventually they will be made available for people who don't have them, but why is it you seem to think it's unfair for you to be sitting on the sidelines without them, when you either took a break, didn't have the roster or didn't have the skill or whatever to get them?

    If you didn't get them at the time, you have to wait until they become available again, or simply pay the 5k units.
    It's really that simple.

    How is it anybody fault but your own that you didn't get them, again?

    It's end game content that was made for end game players, not every person that plays the game was supposed to be able to get them.
  • ofcOliofcOli Member Posts: 10

    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.

    It's not hidden if it was communicated. Which it was.
    Okay so i guess i just didn‘t get it right.
    I thought it‘ll be available in any sort of content, i didn‘t know that they said it would be in the deathless content.
    And as for quick grind, yes it is permanent content but its kind of frustrating to see the majority of players get thanks while you sit on the sidelines and wait a year to get a second Chance.
    ^ stuff like THIS is why participation trophies are bad.

    It's frustrating why? Because we did the content and you didn't, but now you don't have what the people that did it have, so you're frustrated sitting on the sidelines watching the players who put in the time and effort to get them, actually get to play with their new champs?
    Are you kidding me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    We‘ll i did try, but because of a longer hiatus of the game i returned just as the deathless thing startet and wasn’t able to get the pieces because of a weak roster.
    In due time i caught up with the endgame content but as it turned out i now end up frustrated waiting.
    So i think its not fair to say you put in some effort and i didn’t.
    It was just a bad timing on my restart.
    I'm not saying you didn't put any effort in, I have no doubt that you did.

    However, alot of people also either didn't quite have the roster or skills or time or whatever to get the champs, while alot of other did make sure to grind for the champs.
    Most of the pieces weren't that hard to get, though some were obviously harder than others.
    The point is that those who did grind out the harder to get pieces absolutely deserve the champs, and those who didn't grind for them, absolutely didn't deserve to get them.

    Eventually they will be made available for people who don't have them, but why is it you seem to think it's unfair for you to be sitting on the sidelines without them, when you either took a break, didn't have the roster or didn't have the skill or whatever to get them?

    If you didn't get them at the time, you have to wait until they become available again, or simply pay the 5k units.
    It's really that simple.

    How is it anybody fault but your own that you didn't get them, again?

    It's end game content that was made for end game players, not every person that plays the game was supposed to be able to get them.
    I‘m not saying that it isn‘t my fault, i just complain about the fact that in this Game with some effort it’s easy to get to a certain point which like a month or two ago was as far as the moon.
    So Kabam could have implemented a way for people to get stuff they missed out, without spending a ton of Units.
    But i guess it is what it is, i‘m happy for everybody who has got his hands at Thanos and i‘m just going to wait until a second chance comes up.
    The 20k Units i would have to spend for the pieces i‘m missing is just not worth the rewards.
  • EquintsEquints Member Posts: 139
    edited January 10

    Jol_of_Ny said:

    Worked hard?

    Uhm, yes? For the last year, people have had to push to GC, complete a path of Necropolis, be able to do the AoA/SoS/WoW fights, complete a special challenge with Guilly/Morningstar/Guilly2099/Purgatory, complete a ParaGauntlet with set Champs, complete an AW Showcase, etc. Not everyone normally does BGs and EQ, or has the skill/roster to do the AoA (etc) fights.

    It wasn't just play a few minutes every once in awhile and get pieces. Some of them were rather difficult.
    I strongly agree with this 🙌
  • DemonicStalkerDemonicStalker Member Posts: 338 ★★
    currently only available for 5k units... i would suggest

    Alliance war (per store refresh) - 1 purchase for 1m alliance chips
    Incursion (per store refresh) - 1 purchase for 250k incursion trophy
    BG (per BG period) - 1 purchase for 50k
    Mysterium (per monthly refresh) - 1 purchase for 40k

    Each purchase is a selector. Select the deathless champ first, then the piece you need.
  • Phantøm_EchøPhantøm_Echø Member Posts: 117 ★★
    edited January 11
    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    ofcOli said:

    Yeah i know i could use a gem on him but in a stream the saying was that Maestro don‘t need to be awakened by a Gen cause there will be a way to dup him and this way is now hidden behind a deathless path.

    It's not hidden if it was communicated. Which it was.
    Okay so i guess i just didn‘t get it right.
    I thought it‘ll be available in any sort of content, i didn‘t know that they said it would be in the deathless content.
    And as for quick grind, yes it is permanent content but its kind of frustrating to see the majority of players get thanks while you sit on the sidelines and wait a year to get a second Chance.
    ^ stuff like THIS is why participation trophies are bad.

    It's frustrating why? Because we did the content and you didn't, but now you don't have what the people that did it have, so you're frustrated sitting on the sidelines watching the players who put in the time and effort to get them, actually get to play with their new champs?
    Are you kidding me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    We‘ll i did try, but because of a longer hiatus of the game i returned just as the deathless thing startet and wasn’t able to get the pieces because of a weak roster.
    In due time i caught up with the endgame content but as it turned out i now end up frustrated waiting.
    So i think its not fair to say you put in some effort and i didn’t.
    It was just a bad timing on my restart.
    I'm not saying you didn't put any effort in, I have no doubt that you did.

    However, alot of people also either didn't quite have the roster or skills or time or whatever to get the champs, while alot of other did make sure to grind for the champs.
    Most of the pieces weren't that hard to get, though some were obviously harder than others.
    The point is that those who did grind out the harder to get pieces absolutely deserve the champs, and those who didn't grind for them, absolutely didn't deserve to get them.

    Eventually they will be made available for people who don't have them, but why is it you seem to think it's unfair for you to be sitting on the sidelines without them, when you either took a break, didn't have the roster or didn't have the skill or whatever to get them?

    If you didn't get them at the time, you have to wait until they become available again, or simply pay the 5k units.
    It's really that simple.

    How is it anybody fault but your own that you didn't get them, again?

    It's end game content that was made for end game players, not every person that plays the game was supposed to be able to get them.
    I‘m not saying that it isn‘t my fault, i just complain about the fact that in this Game with some effort it’s easy to get to a certain point which like a month or two ago was as far as the moon.
    So Kabam could have implemented a way for people to get stuff they missed out, without spending a ton of Units.
    But i guess it is what it is, i‘m happy for everybody who has got his hands at Thanos and i‘m just going to wait until a second chance comes up.
    The 20k Units i would have to spend for the pieces i‘m missing is just not worth the rewards.
    Thanos was more so a reward for a whole year of active commitment and engagement with the game, actively participating in the new content that allowed for these pieces, rewarding active higher end players. You took a hiatus, which is totally valid, but that is obviously at the cost of getting thanos. By your logic, maybe when this whole thing started your roster wasn't strong enough for the very first piece, but after a month of playing you should've been fine to start collecting the other pieces. Eventually you're going to get your catch-up method relax no use in getting stirred up it'll be a while
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