Secondary mission Glorious scientific games

I too am having difficulty with that fight, and that fight only. Any suggestions?

Squidopus

Deathless She-hulk (if you have her) runs through Enchantress as easily as she runs through the entire rest of the quest. Indefinite debilitates on her sp3 are a godsend for reducing the need to disable her spells, and her traumas just play really well in general with the damage boost from the node because it essentially benefits twice.

Sim

Deathless She-hulk (if you have her) runs through Enchantress as easily as she runs through the entire rest of the quest. Indefinite debilitates on her sp3 are a godsend for reducing the need to disable her spells, and her traumas just play really well in general with the damage boost from the node because it essentially benefits twice.

I'm sorry but I can't believe it, I'm with She-Hulk, the power gain of the Enchanter is very strong, and even without the spells if you get to E2 she crosses her blockade, the maximum I got from her was 10%... this fight is hell...

I tried with Silk, the power gain even with the supposed reduction is huge, then an e1, crosses its block and kills Silk R3... I gave up, I stuck the **** of the 10 stones in Kabam's deepest hole...

I managed to get her down to 12% with an R3 7* SILK. Now not to brag but I’m pretty darn good at using silk but this fight is absurd! A multi million hp enchantress that requires minutes to even start doing damage? No nodes to aid you? What was kabam thinking im def skipping the science one. This quest is a failure-design-structure-nodes-REWARDS! I will try with r3 deathless she hulk but yeah this quest is bs SAVE YOUR REVIVES ladies and gentleman.

Soloed it with either silk or nefaria, can't remember

Soloed it with either silk or nefaria, can't remember

Saying it was solo, it's easy, there are many who talk, post here, by time and combo, we'll know if it's true...

Soloed it with either silk or nefaria, can't remember
Saying it was solo, it's easy, there are many who talk, post here, by time and combo, we'll know if it's true...

Well I didn't screenshot but I can do it again?

Squidopus

Sim
Deathless She-hulk (if you have her) runs through Enchantress as easily as she runs through the entire rest of the quest. Indefinite debilitates on her sp3 are a godsend for reducing the need to disable her spells, and her traumas just play really well in general with the damage boost from the node because it essentially benefits twice.
I'm sorry but I can't believe it, I'm with She-Hulk, the power gain of the Enchanter is very strong, and even without the spells if you get to E2 she crosses her blockade, the maximum I got from her was 10%... this fight is hell...

Soloed it with either silk or nefaria, can't remember
Saying it was solo, it's easy, there are many who talk, post here, by time and combo, we'll know if it's true...

7* r1, I didn’t bother ranking up my Deathless She-hulk up at all.

Perhaps there’s some sort of translator issue going on here (I’m assuming you’re using one based on the weird wording in the main post), but I do not appreciate the implication that I or others trying to help you are lying. People post here because, in some sense, they want to help others in the community. We aren’t just screwing with people for a laugh. I apologize that my suggestion didn’t work out for you, no solution in this game works for everyone, but I don’t care for the dismissive attitude towards those who you asked for help from.

Zeke_the_Xbot

Sim
Deathless She-hulk (if you have her) runs through Enchantress as easily as she runs through the entire rest of the quest. Indefinite debilitates on her sp3 are a godsend for reducing the need to disable her spells, and her traumas just play really well in general with the damage boost from the node because it essentially benefits twice.
I'm sorry but I can't believe it, I'm with She-Hulk, the power gain of the Enchanter is very strong, and even without the spells if you get to E2 she crosses her blockade, the maximum I got from her was 10%... this fight is hell...

Soloed it with either silk or nefaria, can't remember
Saying it was solo, it's easy, there are many who talk, post here, by time and combo, we'll know if it's true...

7* r1, I didn’t bother ranking up my Deathless She-hulk up at all.

Perhaps there’s some sort of translator issue going on here (I’m assuming you’re using one based on the weird wording in the main post), but I do not appreciate the implication that I or others trying to help you are lying. People post here because, in some sense, they want to help others in the community. We aren’t just screwing with people for a laugh. I apologize that my suggestion didn’t work out for you, no solution in this game works for everyone, but I don’t care for the dismissive attitude towards those who you asked for help from.

I to am dismissive of it’s easy commentary, because that protests that enchantress isn’t heavily ai reliant. Not everyone has the same ability and skill in the game as well. It’s basically bragging commentary mixed with trying to be helpful which feels like a two faced comment that translates to skill issue get good if this isn’t working for you. Best to keep the champ makes thing easier comments out of advisements. Just my 2 cents though.

VanillaCoke

Sim
Deathless She-hulk (if you have her) runs through Enchantress as easily as she runs through the entire rest of the quest. Indefinite debilitates on her sp3 are a godsend for reducing the need to disable her spells, and her traumas just play really well in general with the damage boost from the node because it essentially benefits twice.
I'm sorry but I can't believe it, I'm with She-Hulk, the power gain of the Enchanter is very strong, and even without the spells if you get to E2 she crosses her blockade, the maximum I got from her was 10%... this fight is hell...

Soloed it with either silk or nefaria, can't remember
Saying it was solo, it's easy, there are many who talk, post here, by time and combo, we'll know if it's true...

7* r1, I didn’t bother ranking up my Deathless She-hulk up at all.

Perhaps there’s some sort of translator issue going on here (I’m assuming you’re using one based on the weird wording in the main post), but I do not appreciate the implication that I or others trying to help you are lying. People post here because, in some sense, they want to help others in the community. We aren’t just screwing with people for a laugh. I apologize that my suggestion didn’t work out for you, no solution in this game works for everyone, but I don’t care for the dismissive attitude towards those who you asked for help from.

What was your approach to the fight?

Squidopus

Sim
Deathless She-hulk (if you have her) runs through Enchantress as easily as she runs through the entire rest of the quest. Indefinite debilitates on her sp3 are a godsend for reducing the need to disable her spells, and her traumas just play really well in general with the damage boost from the node because it essentially benefits twice.
I'm sorry but I can't believe it, I'm with She-Hulk, the power gain of the Enchanter is very strong, and even without the spells if you get to E2 she crosses her blockade, the maximum I got from her was 10%... this fight is hell...

Soloed it with either silk or nefaria, can't remember
Saying it was solo, it's easy, there are many who talk, post here, by time and combo, we'll know if it's true...

7* r1, I didn’t bother ranking up my Deathless She-hulk up at all.

Perhaps there’s some sort of translator issue going on here (I’m assuming you’re using one based on the weird wording in the main post), but I do not appreciate the implication that I or others trying to help you are lying. People post here because, in some sense, they want to help others in the community. We aren’t just screwing with people for a laugh. I apologize that my suggestion didn’t work out for you, no solution in this game works for everyone, but I don’t care for the dismissive attitude towards those who you asked for help from.
What was your approach to the fight?

Spend the first 1-2 minutes immediately going for two sp3s for the debilitates while still making sure to disable Enchantress’s spells as you go. Once you have them, you can play a more normal game and just spam sp2, except you don’t have to religiously disable every spell thanks to the debilitates counting against them. Keep the secutor heal block active as much as possible while building up to the debilitates since it reduces Enchantress’s power gain, but once you start spamming sp2s the withers will do that job for you.

Ercarret

I found Count Nefaria to be good for the fight. I didn't solo her but I managed to stay alive long enough for me to be able to extrapolate that I could have solo'd her if I hadn't missed to dispell one of her spells and therefore got a ton of damage reflected back to me once she threw her next spell.

Learn from my mistake: don't push her to just below two bars of powers because that allows her to throw almost back-to-back SP1s. That's really bad if you're in your high-damage phase but don't manage to get her spells down in time.

But yeah, he was really solid for the fight. He's so tanky and has such high energy resistance that he can survive for a really long time and therefore reach his high-damage phase (as long as you don't then mess things up when you get going, like me).

Rayven5220

Anti Venom did it for me during my test run. That could have been luck, though.
Haven't gone back in since because I hadn't planned on doing it yet, just wanted to test the nodes out and see how it was.

I may or may not regret not continuing when I actually do seriously try, now. 😅

Sim
Deathless She-hulk (if you have her) runs through Enchantress as easily as she runs through the entire rest of the quest. Indefinite debilitates on her sp3 are a godsend for reducing the need to disable her spells, and her traumas just play really well in general with the damage boost from the node because it essentially benefits twice.
I'm sorry but I can't believe it, I'm with She-Hulk, the power gain of the Enchanter is very strong, and even without the spells if you get to E2 she crosses her blockade, the maximum I got from her was 10%... this fight is hell...

Soloed it with either silk or nefaria, can't remember
Saying it was solo, it's easy, there are many who talk, post here, by time and combo, we'll know if it's true...

7* r1, I didn’t bother ranking up my Deathless She-hulk up at all.

Perhaps there’s some sort of translator issue going on here (I’m assuming you’re using one based on the weird wording in the main post), but I do not appreciate the implication that I or others trying to help you are lying. People post here because, in some sense, they want to help others in the community. We aren’t just screwing with people for a laugh. I apologize that my suggestion didn’t work out for you, no solution in this game works for everyone, but I don’t care for the dismissive attitude towards those who you asked for help from.

I'm using a translator from Portuguese to English, in no way was I disrespectful...

I only found a friend who said vague, I did solo with this or that...

As you showed a solo, now I know it's possible and I appreciate it... Maybe the translation is different between saying I don't believe and calling someone a liar

Even because it's not just a translation, it's a different culture, so some words may not fit... (Brazil)

Can someone post a video please? I'm on try like 72 and making no progress. I just don't get how to play around the unstoppable intercept, the knock down evade and untouchable heavy counter when she has them.

Or link to a YouTube video? I can't seem to find one.
Somebody wrote this for me, which I thought was great, but I can't put it into action.

• When she has her transmutation (green) spell(s) active, you should immediately try to disable those first via punishing her heavy. Those are the ones that give her defensive abilities that will make disabling her spells more difficult.
• Her evade spell does let her evade knockdowns, which will prevent you from removing transmutation (purple) spells. You need to disable the green spell first by punishing her heavy. If she has both the evade spell and purple spells, and you have a multi-hit heavy, one thing you can do is punish her heavy with your own heavy to disable both types of spells at once. The first hit of the heavy will disable the evade, which will let the last hit successfully knock her down. Deathless She-hulk has a two-hit heavy, so she can do this.
• Generally, if Enchantress has her miss active, you do just have to accept that sometimes you’ll miss the heavy punish and you’ll have to reset and try again. However, Deathless She-hulk ignores miss while the fear debuff from her heavy is active so you don’t have to worry about that if you keep using heavy. The secutor heal block in this specific fight also lets you ignore miss.
• Debilitates count as “negative spells” for Enchantress’s abilities, and DSH can have up to two indefinite debilitates via sp3. Spend the first 1-2 minutes of the fight getting those up ASAP, don’t throw sp1 or sp2 until you do. Once you have them, you don’t have to constantly remove every spell. For example, if you have both debilitates and Enchantress has two spells, she counts as having none so you don’t actually have to make sure to disable them before she throws a special.
• Make sure you have the Secutor heal block active as often as possible. It keeps Enchantress’s power gain from getting too ridiculous and prevents her miss entirely while active. DSH’s heavy inflict two debuffs so it’s usually the reliable way to get that online quickly.
• Not sure if you can punish her sp2, but you absolutely should make sure to punish her sp1 to temporarily disable the provocateur power gain charges. The power gain is brutal, and you want it active as little as possible.

Hopefully the giant wall of text isn’t too intimidating lol, I’m just trying to be thorough.

@willrun4adonut dude it’s just play your best echantress fight. It’s so tedious and basically comes down to AI and rng. Terrible fight.

@willrun4adonut dude it’s just play your best echantress fight. It’s so tedious and basically comes down to AI and rng. Terrible fight.

Yeh, I always just nuke her in BG with Silk. Or ban her. The much smaller health pool makes that possible.

@willrun4adonut dude it’s just play your best echantress fight. It’s so tedious and basically comes down to AI and rng. Terrible fight.
Yeh, I always just nuke her in BG with Silk. Or ban her. The much smaller health pool makes that possible.

Exactly! She needs to be a blacklisted PvE defender

@willrun4adonut dude it’s just play your best echantress fight. It’s so tedious and basically comes down to AI and rng. Terrible fight.
Yeh, I always just nuke her in BG with Silk. Or ban her. The much smaller health pool makes that possible.
Exactly! She needs to be a blacklisted PvE defender

I got her down. Took 9 (yes, nine) revives and a bazillion runs. Everyone else was a solo. I ended up being Mr Fantastic, having Enchantress hit him with her sp1 three times, and going at it.

VanillaCoke

@willrun4adonut dude it’s just play your best echantress fight. It’s so tedious and basically comes down to AI and rng. Terrible fight.

I was about to say. Enchantress is overtuned for something like this. You need good AI, good RNG for a chance to do well. It’s ridiculous.

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What is hard about the enchantress fight?

VanillaCoke

What is hard about the enchantress fight?

What’s not difficult to the Enchantress fight? These isolated comments add no value to this discussion

What is hard about the enchantress fight?
What’s not difficult to the Enchantress fight? These isolated comments add no value to this discussion

No I genuinely mean what was hard I want to know? Sorry if it wasn't clear, I was asking to understand what people found difficult? When I do bg I struggle to do lots of damage to enchantress quickly but in a longer fight it was fine. Also during that fight, my confidence in how to fight enchantress went from 3/10 to like 7/10. I went from taking ages to remove her spells to just a couple hits. And I was doing crazy damage. What was the problem for people. Is it that you didn't have counters? I either used silk or nefaria, thats who I used my whole run

Bugmat78

What is hard about the enchantress fight?
What’s not difficult to the Enchantress fight? These isolated comments add no value to this discussion
No I genuinely mean what was hard I want to know? Sorry if it wasn't clear, I was asking to understand what people found difficult? When I do bg I struggle to do lots of damage to enchantress quickly but in a longer fight it was fine. Also during that fight, my confidence in how to fight enchantress went from 3/10 to like 7/10. I went from taking ages to remove her spells to just a couple hits. And I was doing crazy damage. What was the problem for people. Is it that you didn't have counters? I either used silk or nefaria, thats who I used my whole run

If you miss a spell disabling when her protection is off and moreso when the damage to her is at 200% (the wounded phases) the reflection will be an instant ko.

Took me 1 revive with nefaria because I messed up a spell when she was at about 40% and the reflection took me out instantly

Ok so deathless she hulk is basically REQUIRED to solo. Mines r3 and it still takes a lot of play. I went for two sp3s and then sp2s. One of my sp2s did like 20% of her hp. But yeah basically if you don’t have maxed out 7*s this fight is a b**** And for a 6* gem(paragon reward nowadays) def needs to be tuned down!