Thoughts about Champions for 2025

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  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,863 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    WM should definitely be science. So too Red Ghost.

    I feel like red ghost would be skill
    He should be science. He got his powers the exact same way fantastic four did.
    I just think as far as using his apes to attack falls more into skill
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,863 ★★★★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    Still feel like this is really coping.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,640 ★★★★
    Where have you seen the synergy? Is is in the Deep Dive video or is from a content creator? Just curious. I thought I had read something recently of Wonderman as a mutant. I may have misread and will correct on my prediction diagram. Thank you for further discussion.

    I will also look more into Red Ghost, but felt his control of his Super Apes could fit in, but also see him being science as well.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,640 ★★★★
    Xleb said:



    Correct Blue Marvel's class type. Still just keep wondering if there is a better prediction for going in September along with Mr. Knight. Will update when and if something comes to mind.

    I think we should start by identifying potential participants in the synergy "from The Ashes" at Jean's. I think it could be either Madelyne Pryor, or Hope, or Rachel Summers. But we only need to choose one, which may join this year, so
    I just found the synergy you were mentioning. That is an interesting synergy and like your thoughts of who could fit that.

    Definitely want to review some of things you all mentioned and want to seriously assess my predictions. Thank you for those engaging. In December we shall all get to look back at this thread and see what happened, where we got things correct and where we got things incorrect. More importantly it will be interesting to see who else will join the contest in 2025.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,713 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    WM should definitely be science. So too Red Ghost.

    I feel like red ghost would be skill
    He should be science. He got his powers the exact same way fantastic four did.
    I just think as far as using his apes to attack falls more into skill
    He's the main focus tho. Not his apes. Tho his apes got their skills the same way he did. Experiment. Red ghost himself has abilities besides commanding the apes. He can become intangible. Similar to Ghost.
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 280 ★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    Still feel like this is really coping.
    What do you mean? Sorry, I didn't really understand.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,863 ★★★★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    Still feel like this is really coping.
    What do you mean? Sorry, I didn't really understand.
    I think it's just a bunch of characters you want added with very little actual reasoning. I think it's incredibly unlikely that every month is just going to be well known characters like you've theorised
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,640 ★★★★
    Corr
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    WM should definitely be science. So too Red Ghost.

    I feel like red ghost would be skill
    He should be science. He got his powers the exact same way fantastic four did.
    I just think as far as using his apes to attack falls more into skill
    He's the main focus tho. Not his apes. Tho his apes got their skills the same way he did. Experiment. Red ghost himself has abilities besides commanding the apes. He can become intangible. Similar to Ghost.
    Thank you for the insight, he is one FF villain I'm not as familiar with.
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 280 ★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    Still feel like this is really coping.
    What do you mean? Sorry, I didn't really understand.
    I think it's just a bunch of characters you want added with very little actual reasoning. I think it's incredibly unlikely that every month is just going to be well known characters like you've theorised
    The topic seems to be called "thoughts on the champions of 2025". So, I think of those whom I consider the most appropriate time to join the game. I don't use my desires. What I wish for will definitely not be added soon. And I'm not just using super famous and accessible characters like you mentioned. For example, characters like Elena Belova and Franklin are not in contention to appear this year. I also think that kabam will close the 2020 nominator selection in the near future, but not all at once. For this reason, I'm betting on the Blue Miracle and not on Morgana, who is unlikely to come without some of the characters about King Arthur, who are not even close to the game yet with a hint. Idols are a 100% guarantee, and I got a nightmare after posting rumors about "Nightmarish Raids." Before that, I had predicted only one Agatha, as the mysticism class this year will be minimal due to its abundance in 2024. Who else? Chameleon in October? Note that I did not put either the hobgoblin or the lizard, which are currently the highest priorities for joining the battle, according to the degree of player expectation. Spider-Woman would definitely have every chance to join this year in April, but we don't have spider month, so I set her for September as having absolutely nothing to do with Mr. Knight. I'm not a strong analyst like xleb, who knows everything in advance. In Russia, they look up to his forecasts, just as Americans look up to the forecasts of Jay Axe. But nevertheless, I also try to analyze the situation somehow. And it wasn't me who suggested Rachel and Hope Summers, for whom it's obviously too early. 💁🏾
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,863 ★★★★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    Still feel like this is really coping.
    What do you mean? Sorry, I didn't really understand.
    I think it's just a bunch of characters you want added with very little actual reasoning. I think it's incredibly unlikely that every month is just going to be well known characters like you've theorised
    The topic seems to be called "thoughts on the champions of 2025". So, I think of those whom I consider the most appropriate time to join the game. I don't use my desires. What I wish for will definitely not be added soon. And I'm not just using super famous and accessible characters like you mentioned. For example, characters like Elena Belova and Franklin are not in contention to appear this year. I also think that kabam will close the 2020 nominator selection in the near future, but not all at once. For this reason, I'm betting on the Blue Miracle and not on Morgana, who is unlikely to come without some of the characters about King Arthur, who are not even close to the game yet with a hint. Idols are a 100% guarantee, and I got a nightmare after posting rumors about "Nightmarish Raids." Before that, I had predicted only one Agatha, as the mysticism class this year will be minimal due to its abundance in 2024. Who else? Chameleon in October? Note that I did not put either the hobgoblin or the lizard, which are currently the highest priorities for joining the battle, according to the degree of player expectation. Spider-Woman would definitely have every chance to join this year in April, but we don't have spider month, so I set her for September as having absolutely nothing to do with Mr. Knight. I'm not a strong analyst like xleb, who knows everything in advance. In Russia, they look up to his forecasts, just as Americans look up to the forecasts of Jay Axe. But nevertheless, I also try to analyze the situation somehow. And it wasn't me who suggested Rachel and Hope Summers, for whom it's obviously too early. 💁🏾
    Jay Axe is rarely as accurate as yall make him out to be. He also tends to ignore what's most likely just based on who he personally wants to add to the game.

    I just think it's incredibly unlikely that this year is full of characters that have lost previous votes. Obviously there's things like October being a vaguely Halloween related year which Hobgoblin could fit in, but they could just add easily say they're doing a new warriors themed event with speedball or something. They've adjust said mystique isn't coming because it's virtually impossible to had her to the game yet everyone still predicts her. I'm not saying these characters aren't going to come every I just think throwing them randomly in months with virtually no evidence is kinda pointless. Blue Marvel is as likely to come with anti man as he is with an eidol champ, but until we get done indication of what the themes could be for each month there's nothing to suggest he's actually coming this year let alone in a specific month
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 280 ★★
    October, Halloween, yes, it's all beautiful. but in 2024, the pumpkin was introduced, and the hobgoblin and the pumpkin are practically one character. introducing the same character two years in a row? Well, I'll hold off on goblin until 2026.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,640 ★★★★
    Not exactly, Jack O'Lantern did take the mantle of Hobgoblin, but the Hobgoblin is closer to The Green Goblin and has had different people taking the mantle. Hobgoblin had the identity of Ned Leeds which when Spiderman: Homecoming people wondered will Peter's best friend become the Hobgoblin.

    Another thing is Hobgoblin has a glider and uses pumpkin bombs more the Green Goblin. Considering how many Spiderman, Iron Man variants we have why not add Hobgoblin as he may seem like just another Goblin, but he could bring his own unique elements to the game.

    One other thing the Ned Leeds version trained under Baron Mondo and learned chaos magic. So that could be a unique aspect to him, using tech and magic.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,863 ★★★★★

    Not exactly, Jack O'Lantern did take the mantle of Hobgoblin, but the Hobgoblin is closer to The Green Goblin and has had different people taking the mantle. Hobgoblin had the identity of Ned Leeds which when Spiderman: Homecoming people wondered will Peter's best friend become the Hobgoblin.

    Another thing is Hobgoblin has a glider and uses pumpkin bombs more the Green Goblin. Considering how many Spiderman, Iron Man variants we have why not add Hobgoblin as he may seem like just another Goblin, but he could bring his own unique elements to the game.

    One other thing the Ned Leeds version trained under Baron Mondo and learned chaos magic. So that could be a unique aspect to him, using tech and magic.

    I hope to god we don't get the ned leeds version
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 772 ★★★
    edited March 9

    Not exactly, Jack O'Lantern did take the mantle of Hobgoblin, but the Hobgoblin is closer to The Green Goblin and has had different people taking the mantle. Hobgoblin had the identity of Ned Leeds which when Spiderman: Homecoming people wondered will Peter's best friend become the Hobgoblin.

    Another thing is Hobgoblin has a glider and uses pumpkin bombs more the Green Goblin. Considering how many Spiderman, Iron Man variants we have why not add Hobgoblin as he may seem like just another Goblin, but he could bring his own unique elements to the game.

    One other thing the Ned Leeds version trained under Baron Mondo and learned chaos magic. So that could be a unique aspect to him, using tech and magic.

    I hope to god we don't get the ned leeds version
    We won't get it. Kingsley version was on the SC
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,640 ★★★★

    Not exactly, Jack O'Lantern did take the mantle of Hobgoblin, but the Hobgoblin is closer to The Green Goblin and has had different people taking the mantle. Hobgoblin had the identity of Ned Leeds which when Spiderman: Homecoming people wondered will Peter's best friend become the Hobgoblin.

    Another thing is Hobgoblin has a glider and uses pumpkin bombs more the Green Goblin. Considering how many Spiderman, Iron Man variants we have why not add Hobgoblin as he may seem like just another Goblin, but he could bring his own unique elements to the game.

    One other thing the Ned Leeds version trained under Baron Mondo and learned chaos magic. So that could be a unique aspect to him, using tech and magic.

    I hope to god we don't get the ned leeds version
    Why so? I'm just curious.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,863 ★★★★★

    Not exactly, Jack O'Lantern did take the mantle of Hobgoblin, but the Hobgoblin is closer to The Green Goblin and has had different people taking the mantle. Hobgoblin had the identity of Ned Leeds which when Spiderman: Homecoming people wondered will Peter's best friend become the Hobgoblin.

    Another thing is Hobgoblin has a glider and uses pumpkin bombs more the Green Goblin. Considering how many Spiderman, Iron Man variants we have why not add Hobgoblin as he may seem like just another Goblin, but he could bring his own unique elements to the game.

    One other thing the Ned Leeds version trained under Baron Mondo and learned chaos magic. So that could be a unique aspect to him, using tech and magic.

    I hope to god we don't get the ned leeds version
    Why so? I'm just curious.
    Because people always bring it up as if it was some longlasting thing in the comics when it was pretty much a couple of issues and he wasn't even actively in control. Roderick is pretty much the Hobgoblin in terms of what people think of
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,640 ★★★★
    Understood, I know some people were wondering if Ned from the Tom Holland Spiderman movies was going to become Hobgoblin especially with him using the sling ring in Spiderman No Way Home.
  • Ant_WarriorAnt_Warrior Member Posts: 296
    I'm now more convinced Thane is otw.

    Days old talk probably but the whole from the ashes thing with Jean is defo Phoenix Force related and of course it could be Hope Summers (Mutant Messiah, born in a time when mutants couldn't be) and a massive Phoenix Force target (Avengers Vs X-Men) but Thane is a more unique pick I'd say with the whole Inhuman stuff and Thanos relation alongside having some part to do with the Phoenix

    Probably copium but I'd say he's a fair choice for this year
  • Ant_WarriorAnt_Warrior Member Posts: 296

    I'm now more convinced Thane is otw.

    Days old talk probably but the whole from the ashes thing with Jean is defo Phoenix Force related and of course it could be Hope Summers (Mutant Messiah, born in a time when mutants couldn't be) and a massive Phoenix Force target (Avengers Vs X-Men) but Thane is a more unique pick I'd say with the whole Inhuman stuff and Thanos relation alongside having some part to do with the Phoenix

    Probably copium but I'd say he's a fair choice for this year

    Yes, Thane is on the list and already stated but just more wood for the burner ig
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,435 ★★★★★
    So, April is coming up soon, do we still think it’s Thane and Lumatrix? Or do you think someone else is joining instead
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,640 ★★★★
    At this point I believe it will be Thane and Lumatrix. Lumatrix is the given, but considering we are in the Dark Phoenix Saga Thane seems to fit the bill for a character connected to the Phoenix and a cosmic champion.
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 772 ★★★

    At this point I believe it will be Thane and Lumatrix. Lumatrix is the given, but considering we are in the Dark Phoenix Saga Thane seems to fit the bill for a character connected to the Phoenix and a cosmic champion.

    It is a very unfounded opinion that the April champion will be connected to the saga (at most the champions of the first month of the saga are connected, and not always). Were Spider-Punk, Prowler, NTW and Silver Sable specifically connected to X-Magica (I mean directly, not that they are participants in it). Or maybe Patriot, The Leader, Enchantress, BRB were connected to Arcade's Murderworld and to him?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,435 ★★★★★
    Xleb said:

    At this point I believe it will be Thane and Lumatrix. Lumatrix is the given, but considering we are in the Dark Phoenix Saga Thane seems to fit the bill for a character connected to the Phoenix and a cosmic champion.

    It is a very unfounded opinion that the April champion will be connected to the saga (at most the champions of the first month of the saga are connected, and not always). Were Spider-Punk, Prowler, NTW and Silver Sable specifically connected to X-Magica (I mean directly, not that they are participants in it). Or maybe Patriot, The Leader, Enchantress, BRB were connected to Arcade's Murderworld and to him?
    I am surprised we still don't have a roadmap yet
  • Ant_WarriorAnt_Warrior Member Posts: 296
    EdisonLaw said:

    Xleb said:

    At this point I believe it will be Thane and Lumatrix. Lumatrix is the given, but considering we are in the Dark Phoenix Saga Thane seems to fit the bill for a character connected to the Phoenix and a cosmic champion.

    It is a very unfounded opinion that the April champion will be connected to the saga (at most the champions of the first month of the saga are connected, and not always). Were Spider-Punk, Prowler, NTW and Silver Sable specifically connected to X-Magica (I mean directly, not that they are participants in it). Or maybe Patriot, The Leader, Enchantress, BRB were connected to Arcade's Murderworld and to him?
    I am surprised we still don't have a roadmap yet
    I can't remember the last time we got one.

    I remember a vid of the first half of 2023 for Jay Axe but quite literally nothing afterwards
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,863 ★★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    Xleb said:

    At this point I believe it will be Thane and Lumatrix. Lumatrix is the given, but considering we are in the Dark Phoenix Saga Thane seems to fit the bill for a character connected to the Phoenix and a cosmic champion.

    It is a very unfounded opinion that the April champion will be connected to the saga (at most the champions of the first month of the saga are connected, and not always). Were Spider-Punk, Prowler, NTW and Silver Sable specifically connected to X-Magica (I mean directly, not that they are participants in it). Or maybe Patriot, The Leader, Enchantress, BRB were connected to Arcade's Murderworld and to him?
    I am surprised we still don't have a roadmap yet
    I can't remember the last time we got one.

    I remember a vid of the first half of 2023 for Jay Axe but quite literally nothing afterwards
    We got 2 last year, one in February and one in July
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 772 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Xleb said:

    At this point I believe it will be Thane and Lumatrix. Lumatrix is the given, but considering we are in the Dark Phoenix Saga Thane seems to fit the bill for a character connected to the Phoenix and a cosmic champion.

    It is a very unfounded opinion that the April champion will be connected to the saga (at most the champions of the first month of the saga are connected, and not always). Were Spider-Punk, Prowler, NTW and Silver Sable specifically connected to X-Magica (I mean directly, not that they are participants in it). Or maybe Patriot, The Leader, Enchantress, BRB were connected to Arcade's Murderworld and to him?
    I am surprised we still don't have a roadmap yet
    I was actually expecting us to get some teasing on the forums about future champions (like when the forums were angry that we had too many Spider-Man and Miike said "The good news is Spider-Woman," which has led many to speculate that Silk is on the way) But we're getting neither, or even a small teaser. The Kabam are trying to fight against leaks and what they are doing... they themselves are LEAKING the champions of March prematurely, allegedly covering it up with a mistake (yes, of course, it looks very much like a mistake, when they inserted into the letter new images of the March champions, and the rest of the champion spots from the February 14th selector were left blank. This is just ridiculous!
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,640 ★★★★
    Agreed @Xleb . Surprised how we are nearly through the month of March and no tease of sorts. Perhaps another "email accident is on the way".
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,863 ★★★★★

    Agreed @Xleb . Surprised how we are nearly through the month of March and no tease of sorts. Perhaps another "email accident is on the way".

    There's still 2 weeks left on the event. We usually only get actual reveals maybe a week before the new event quest at most, but it's clear that they're trying to avoid people knowing what's coming so far in advance. They prefer hints like mystery synergies which are vague enough that it's hard to pin it down to one thing, people pretty much knew the entire years worth of champions in advance when they dropped the roadmap in December 2021 lmao
  • SkyfawSkyfaw Member Posts: 292 ★★★
    Kinda unrelated to the discussion being said above. But my thoughts on this month champs for march leave me a little bit uneasy. I hope it doesn’t become a trend where they release a really good champ and then months later release a champion that does everything that champion does and more.

    We’ve seen this with Leader who is a great champ at what he can do. But then months later Nefaria gets released and essentially made Leader forgotten. Now NTW and Jack are about to get the same treatment with Bastion and Jean Grey being added to the contest who are just objectively better in every way.
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 772 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    So, April is coming up soon, do we still think it’s Thane and Lumatrix? Or do you think someone else is joining instead

    I think it could be Crystal and Lumatrix. Yeah, considering Kabam doesn't care about Inhumans it sounds weird but..
    Well, to be honest, I looked at a lot of options for possible champions for April and I chose this position – with Lumatrix (a big villain like all Eidols) a hero should come out (it may turn out to be wrong, but I think it is unlikely), well, two villains (In the case of, for example, Thane), when one of them is much bigger, it looks strange to me (after all, the villains unite with the Maestro, the same Count Nefaria (and its factional association), the Leader, Modok, Sauron, Killmonger, Arnim Zola, Bastion etc), in short i think it should be a clash between a villain (Lumatrix) and a cosmic hero (There are actually a lot of them, but most of them rely on energy/light, which also doesn't make them very different from Lumatrix himself).
    And besides, I think it's time for her to join us (or if not so soon, then at least this year) But, actually, the combo of Impossible Man and Lumatrix looked very funny (like a powerful and very annoying joker and a deadly killer hiding behind a kind mask)
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