So, how did you enjoy ares?

Personally I felt like crying a few times. Especially the beginning. I was under the assumption we are getting little pop ups or something to show what to do on his special attacks. But I was wrong. And yes I did read his abilities. I just expected visual clues.

Overall. The fight itself is fun and the concept is fun. I do really wish they didn't increase his special attack speed based on the phase.

Also if only his specials had something like glykhan where you know its sp1 or sp2. Since his animations are faster I did struggle with reacting to the special it is at that moment. I did get the timing eventually.

Anyone elses A.I was just.... Weird? I've never seen something like it. Also his reach on his sword light attack threw me off guard a few times.

Its not exactly a revive fest once you know what you're doing. But on the first run its definitely a revive fest.

Overall the quest itself id give a 8/10.

Only because of the faster animations ares gains + the gates (I hate gates)

Comments

MaskedLegend

I feel like its something you get used to, tried it a few times and he's pretty difficult yet fun, but the degen makes it a poor design imo. Unavoidable damage seems to just keep trending with new champs and now its being implemented in bosses too which is unfortunate. Designed to grab revives.

Polygon

That last phase is a revive spam if the AI acts funny

kvirr

I enjoyed watching

Mercury25

I can never understand using the word “fun” when describing this type of content. Challenging and rewarding, the feeling of accomplishment more like, enjoyable. But certainly not fun (for me at least). Glad you beat and enjoyed it though.

Rupp20304

If there wasnt guaranteed damage, I’d give it a 9/10 or higher.
I didn’t mind the sped up animations, but I did have a lot of difficulty not knowing which special attack was coming
First attempt went poorly but overall a good fun fight.
I think the rewards more than make up for the difficulty

Bendy

First round sucked but fun second fight rageful as unstoppable but felt even better

Chuck_Finley

All the “let’s not judge this fight too early, he might be easier than expected” was of course nonsense. Watching content creators far more skilled than the likes of me throw revive after revive at it just confirmed this is a hard pass.

Smoky4ii20

I can never understand using the word “fun” when describing this type of content. Challenging and rewarding, the feeling of accomplishment more like, enjoyable. But certainly not fun (for me at least). Glad you beat and enjoyed it though.

Being challenging and rewarding is the fun , especially the reward part I did the cosmic path and got got a bunch of cosmic stuff , and scream from the titan , and the fight goes really well when you start stacking the passives just pray bro chooses to throw the sp1 more than the sp2 lol , in general a really fun fight , I hope you do good in you're run

Zekedamam

I think the fight was pretty fun at times and very infuriating at times. My only piece of criticism was the lack of indicator on which special attack he threw. I understand that some may have found it pretty straight forward but I found myself not being able to react in time.

Smoky4ii20

All the “let’s not judge this fight too early, he might be easier than expected” was of course nonsense. Watching content creators far more skilled than the likes of me throw revive after revive at it just confirmed this is a hard pass.

Monthly quest deals plus the daily revives , and at least a 1k units and you're good , am not the greatest players ,and it went really well for me , i even manage to save revives for the next run .

Smoky4ii20

I think the fight was pretty fun at times and very infuriating at times. My only piece of criticism was the lack of indicator on which special attack he threw. I understand that some may have found it pretty straight forward but I found myself not being able to react in time.

The sp1 is very easy , dex parry parry light and dex , the sp2 got me good , I was not able to deal with it a single time , so after fase 2 it became very annoying but overall was a pretty easy fight , Thanos was melting him through every fase .

Zekedamam

I think the fight was pretty fun at times and very infuriating at times. My only piece of criticism was the lack of indicator on which special attack he threw. I understand that some may have found it pretty straight forward but I found myself not being able to react in time.
The sp1 is very easy , dex parry parry light and dex , the sp2 got me good , I was not able to deal with it a single time , so after fase 2 it became very annoying but overall was a pretty easy fight , Thanos was melting him through every fase .

Yeah the sp1 was pretty easy. I think I only got the sp2 down successfully once or twice.

Oliver345781

I think the fight was pretty fun at times and very infuriating at times. My only piece of criticism was the lack of indicator on which special attack he threw. I understand that some may have found it pretty straight forward but I found myself not being able to react in time.
The sp1 is very easy , dex parry parry light and dex , the sp2 got me good , I was not able to deal with it a single time , so after fase 2 it became very annoying but overall was a pretty easy fight , Thanos was melting him through every fase .
Yeah the sp1 was pretty easy. I think I only got the sp2 down successfully once or twice.

lol for me its literally the opposite. i can get sp2 down everytime and sp1 just doesnt

Pseudouber

I can never understand using the word “fun” when describing this type of content. Challenging and rewarding, the feeling of accomplishment more like, enjoyable. But certainly not fun (for me at least). Glad you beat and enjoyed it though.

I feel the same, not fun. You have a nice sense of accomplishment after but its not fun. most of it is frustrating and just the feeling that you might not have enough potions and its going to cost you money every time you get womped over something stupid. I just feel like they are just making more and more hoops to jump through and just over complicated designs that take the "fun" out of it. it gets worst and worst every new event. There is not end to the ridiculousness and its just all about how much you can endure how many potions you can save up which is not fun to me. The bosses are going to be just stupid in the next few years at this pace..

Darthbane3141

I haven't done it yet, and it seems terrible. It will take a lot more revives than I thought.

Smoky4ii20

I haven't done it yet, and it seems terrible. It will take a lot more revives than I thought.

Something around 30 revives , playing badly too and if you got good options for the path maybe less

BeastDad

When MSD is struggling, you know it's poorly designed.

TheUglyone123

When MSD is struggling, you know it's poorly designed.

MSD got three solos on him…the first fight he struggled cause he was learning the boss.

BigBlueOx

It’s a fight that could be good but they made it overly complex with terrible visual cues then added more complexity for no reason.

The pity mechanism is an interesting way to just let people trivialize it with revive spam rather than bringing a good option to get better at it.

The haste was completely unnecessary too. If it was made easier to discern between specials or he didn’t have the haste I think it could have been a fine fight.

And the ridiculous health penalty was just an unnecessary element to force more revive spamming… that’s not hard, just mean for mean’s sake.

Aleor

I'm fine with tricky animations timing, having new champs sps to dex is dirty yet ok, but having to memorize what the stone sequences for sp evade is bs

SirGamesBond

What I found helpful was speaking out loud the initial inputs. then speaking out loud the prompts after phase 3

SirGamesBond

that’s not hard, just mean for mean’s sake.

You remember the way fight designer was talking. He is getting exactly what he wanted.
He didn't like we cheezed his horrible GM phase 4. He designed somthing that can't be cheezed.

Smoky4ii20

When MSD is struggling, you know it's poorly designed.

that’s not hard, just mean for mean’s sake.
You remember the way fight designer was talking. He is getting exactly what he wanted.
He didn't like we cheezed his horrible GM phase 4. He designed somthing that can't be cheezed.

Yup yo can definitely feel that during the entire quest . And that is good , there's no skills in spamming sp3s .

The_Doctor_24_1

I've done 2 paths and thought that maybe the second run might be easier knowing Ares and all, but boy was I wrong. I mean, it's fun when you actually do damage and get to intercept him or get to punch him. It's not fun when you revive use potions and then he intercepts you and kills you even before you deal anything, besides the fun AI I'm not a big fan of the timing during the specials, specially at the beginning.
Fun? Not really. Challenging? Absolutely
A Unit Fest with the unavoidable damage that just makes you feel like a waste of revives? Yes

BigBlueOx

that’s not hard, just mean for mean’s sake.
You remember the way fight designer was talking. He is getting exactly what he wanted.
He didn't like we cheezed his horrible GM phase 4. He designed somthing that can't be cheezed.

Im only talking about about the degen down to his health with that point… not sure how using consumables is cheezing a fight…

Monubean

When MSD is struggling, you know it's poorly designed.

The 4 thumbs down just proves it's the same usually suspects (and we all know who you are) just no ethics, morals or dignity, bad actors. MSD is respectfully, top 1 or 2 skilled players in the game, and I don't know who #2 is

PT_99

I'm using units to buy 40% revives,
Why Kebem is insisting on draining my HP to 1%? 🤔

Thought they said spamming revives is okay if we buy them from units?

VanillaCoke

In hindsight, I think it’s poorly designed. This currently version of Ares should be the Ares 2.0 we will fight in the future, similar to how Collector and Grandmaster have a second version of themselves.

Ares has a specific instructions on how to avoid damage from his special attacks, but what does Kabam do? They don’t ease you in to a new champion’s animations. What do I mean by that? From 100-90%, sure you can get used to his SP1. But what happens after that? He randomly chooses between SP1 and SP2.

What should happen?
Phase 1: allow the players to get familiar with SP1
Phase 2: allow the players to get familiar with SP2
Phase 3: allow the players to get familiar with alternating between SP1 and SP2
Phase 4 & 5: randomize the special attacks

I think that would’ve been a much pleasant experience for the players. Granted, he’s still difficult, but it becomes increasingly more difficult as the fight goes on through the above suggestion.

Madman_marvin

That last phase is a revive spam if the AI acts funny

I wasted 3/4 revives because he refused to dash in, he’d turtle, and then when I’d go in for a dash then he intercepted me.

SirGamesBond

that’s not hard, just mean for mean’s sake.
You remember the way fight designer was talking. He is getting exactly what he wanted.
He didn't like we cheezed his horrible GM phase 4. He designed somthing that can't be cheezed.
Im only talking about about the degen down to his health with that point… not sure how using consumables is cheezing a fight…

We cheesed gm phase 4 with reverse immune.
The same designer wanted us to fight gm with alternating reverse controls, is what I'm saying.
He is doing everything in his power to cost players items.
Endgame content used to cost 4k units per path on average. It's not like that anymore atleast.
We will get our shiny new r4 in the end regardless.

Id still rate abyss collector more bs than ares.