Is this the most scrub first clear win of epoch of pain so far?

Supersha7

So I watched the YouTube videos, read the descriptions, wrote down the sp1 and sp2 sequences. And went for it! I’d estimated at least 99 revives if I sucked. 50 if I was muscling through and managed to get a few things right. 30 or less if everything was going great.

Went in with around 60 revives saved up and some back up daily crystals..

As usual with the crappy bugs, lag, intercept issues, and ai recovery and weirdness, I lost a good amount of revives on the way. Probably around 15.

Managed to take down ares with around 35 revives. The bug with not removing his charges every fight was a pain.


So…why the large amount of revives.? Why was it a scrub win?

I didn’t manage to complete a single sp1 or sp2 challenge.

Zip. Nada. None. Zero. And I mean not even the very first bit (the first dex of the sp1, or the first parry of the sp2)

From when ares was 100%. To when he was at 1% with his 1 immortality remaining.

I just beat him down, koed, beat him down koed. Of course he fired plenty of specials and I’d die as soon as he fired it. I just always seemed to move too early and get clipped and just couldn’t get the hang of it. Skill issue for sure I’m sure I’ll get better with practice.

For the last 1% , I simply focused on dex. If the ai/coding was nicer rather than a passive random ganky piece of trash, I reckon I would have dropped him in maybe 20 revives or so, as I soon realised I could just chain intercept if ai was feeling generous.

So yeah. I thought I’d share the experience.

For anyone who is worried about following the sp1 and sp2 prompts, if you think you will struggle, just bring a ton of revives and focus on intercepts in the last 1%. And for the other 99%, just bring a big hitter and keep sending them in, build the vicious charges.

Also when he goes unstoppable after 20, you can still do one more intercept. You’ll get hit and probably die, but the intercept will still count (another 2 charges off haha!)

Anyways, first run done, now go to save up for another month or two for a second run.

And thanks kabam for making the challenge tough, but doable by anyone (as long as you can intercept).

Toproller89

I used roughly the same amount of revives, I successfully evaded his sp1 twice and that was it, had to rely on intercepts to get his charges down on last phase.

I felt that potions as well as revives would have helped a lot, as soon as I got caught with my Silk starting off at 40% I was done, whereas a potion or two would have stretched each match out for a few more combos at least.

Chuck_Finley

I just went through it. I was 50+ and quit counting.

Never completed a sp challenge. Just focused on special 1 - tried to make it easy for me. Figured if he through SP2, oh well.. revive. I could do the first 3 actions of sp1 consistently but never landed the light attack. EVER. No idea if i was early, late… felt like i had it multiple times. Nope.

Final phase, I have no clue what lucky AI some people get, but the one punch backdraft was a joke. Ares would just hold block… or light intercept me.

Whatever. Don’t really care. Didn’t spend units. Still have half full inventory of revives. Not touching this again. By the time of have enough revives to explore, R4’s will be everywhere

Darthbane3141

I did Ares in 26 revives, 40 total for the quest. I feel like I did pretty well. My next path has Abs Man on it, so the revive count is gonna be high for that.

FeydRautha

One tip if you’re really bad like me at knowing which special is coming: After first phase, treat every special like second special. Because special 2 deals more damage than special 1, you have more chance of not getting ko’ed . I also feel like he throws special 2 more than sp 1 so it should be easier to only focus on that one. You can also do sp1 prompt if you’re completely certain he will throw sp1. But if you get confused all the time in knowing which special is coming and which prompt you should do, just do the sp2 prompt and you might get him down with less revives spent.

captain_rogers

I am in the same boat. Spent around 30+ revives on him. Not really complaining though

GoldenDad

I’m 53yo and find trying to pick what special impossible. My eyesight and reflexes are significantly worse than they were 20-30 years ago. Its just is too fast for me to even see if there is an axe or sword. I can do the first dex and then get hit for the rest.

At least a mechanism based on using a lot of revives was included, which is a big plus. It would have been impossible for me to bring him down. Just used my R3 Hulk.

Wolf911

captain_rogers said:

I am in the same boat. Spent around 30+ revives on him. Not really complaining though

After Necro Carina Challenges I was almost out of revives but have saved since then and had about 70 with 5 team going for EPOCH.

Completed 3 runs and now have 5 team revs and 4-5 single ones still remaining will farm for few days for 4th run

hope we get the revives bundle so I can finish all the paths

every time I am getting better at fighting ARES he isn't that bad anymore ( that degen is worst though )

captain_rogers

Wolf911 said:

captain_rogers said:

I am in the same boat. Spent around 30+ revives on him. Not really complaining though

After Necro Carina Challenges I was almost out of revives but have saved since then and had about 70 with 5 team going for EPOCH.

Completed 3 runs and now have 5 team revs and 4-5 single ones still remaining will farm for few days for 4th run

hope we get the revives bundle so I can finish all the paths

every time I am getting better at fighting ARES he isn't that bad anymore ( that degen is worst though )

Do you suggest buying tb revive bundle,(10 team revivea, 5 l2 and 5 l3 revives, bunch of pots boosts and energy refills) for 1k?

Wolf911

captain_rogers said:

Wolf911 said:

captain_rogers said:

I am in the same boat. Spent around 30+ revives on him. Not really complaining though

After Necro Carina Challenges I was almost out of revives but have saved since then and had about 70 with 5 team going for EPOCH.

Completed 3 runs and now have 5 team revs and 4-5 single ones still remaining will farm for few days for 4th run

hope we get the revives bundle so I can finish all the paths

every time I am getting better at fighting ARES he isn't that bad anymore ( that degen is worst though )

Do you suggest buying tb revive bundle,(10 team revivea, 5 l2 and 5 l3 revives, bunch of pots boosts and energy refills) for 1k?

not for this as this is more of one champ doing most of the work so just farm 2 revives everyday and wait for the revive bundle

the team revives are really good but not that useful in this case

Supersha7

the team revives are only good in the last 1% where you just try and intercept to get rid of his immortality. In that phase you can use anyone. So the team revives can be used there. Otherwise just single revives are needed as you normally just choose one hero for ares, as every time they die, they get a free Crossfight preflight charge that boosts their attacks, so u ant to only use one hero for ares until he’s down to 1%

Sir_Globalot

FeydRautha said:

One tip if you’re really bad like me at knowing which special is coming: After first phase, treat every special like second special. Because special 2 deals more damage than special 1, you have more chance of not getting ko’ed . I also feel like he throws special 2 more than sp 1 so it should be easier to only focus on that one. You can also do sp1 prompt if you’re completely certain he will throw sp1. But if you get confused all the time in knowing which special is coming and which prompt you should do, just do the sp2 prompt and you might get him down with less revives spent.

This is a good call - I did this, managed to successfully do an entire sp2 rotation, then was so amazed that I did it correctly that I took a full combo to the face afterwards and bit the dust. Didn't replicate it again, but it's a good idea.

Will3808

Toproller89 said:

I used roughly the same amount of revives, I successfully evaded his sp1 twice and that was it, had to rely on intercepts to get his charges down on last phase.

I felt that potions as well as revives would have helped a lot, as soon as I got caught with my Silk starting off at 40% I was done, whereas a potion or two would have stretched each match out for a few more combos at least.

This was my experience. He’s a rough boss.

Xoxo18

Supersha7 said:

So I watched the YouTube videos, read the descriptions, wrote down the sp1 and sp2 sequences. And went for it! I’d estimated at least 99 revives if I sucked. 50 if I was muscling through and managed to get a few things right. 30 or less if everything was going great.

Went in with around 60 revives saved up and some back up daily crystals..

As usual with the crappy bugs, lag, intercept issues, and ai recovery and weirdness, I lost a good amount of revives on the way. Probably around 15.

Managed to take down ares with around 35 revives. The bug with not removing his charges every fight was a pain.


So…why the large amount of revives.? Why was it a scrub win?

I didn’t manage to complete a single sp1 or sp2 challenge.

Zip. Nada. None. Zero. And I mean not even the very first bit (the first dex of the sp1, or the first parry of the sp2)

From when ares was 100%. To when he was at 1% with his 1 immortality remaining.

I just beat him down, koed, beat him down koed. Of course he fired plenty of specials and I’d die as soon as he fired it. I just always seemed to move too early and get clipped and just couldn’t get the hang of it. Skill issue for sure I’m sure I’ll get better with practice.

For the last 1% , I simply focused on dex. If the ai/coding was nicer rather than a passive random ganky piece of trash, I reckon I would have dropped him in maybe 20 revives or so, as I soon realised I could just chain intercept if ai was feeling generous.

So yeah. I thought I’d share the experience.

For anyone who is worried about following the sp1 and sp2 prompts, if you think you will struggle, just bring a ton of revives and focus on intercepts in the last 1%. And for the other 99%, just bring a big hitter and keep sending them in, build the vicious charges.

Also when he goes unstoppable after 20, you can still do one more intercept. You’ll get hit and probably die, but the intercept will still count (another 2 charges off haha!)

Anyways, first run done, now go to save up for another month or two for a second run.

And thanks kabam for making the challenge tough, but doable by anyone (as long as you can intercept).

The only change I hope the make to the fight would be to give clear indication for which special he will use next like an icon on top with the next special number. That way we would atleast know which special his gonna throw. I feel I would be a fair change not too easy and not an impossible revieve fest.