Doc Oct bugged? [Not A Bug]

13_Dub

Trying to understand why when doc oct is duped, he doesn’t power lock when it says power lock? Can I get some clarification please

Raganator

Awakened? He doesn't power lock, he power drains and power steals. There is a difference. Unawakened he power locks.

I also assume you mean after the breakthrough triggers - step 1.

DaMunk

His dupe changes how his abilities work. It's no longer a power lock. It becomes a power steal. It's not a big power steal but it steals back all the power your opponent gains from the attack plus a little extra. It can actually be a little problematic against some champs like Cable and Magik because it can push them over a bar of power then back down repeatability.
His heal block becomes a health steal also with a dupe so you can regen from Cable and Magik though. It's an odd trade off.

KaanG95

I think you are wrong guys. I always use awakened doctor octopus and he usually does power lock on 4th hit or during the fight. Im sure that duped octopus can power lock the enemy.

Raganator

KaanG95 wrote: »

I think you are wrong guys. I always use awakened doctor octopus and he usually does power lock on 4th hit or during the fight. Im sure that duped octopus can power lock the enemy.

Nope. Read his sig. When awakened he "Drains 100% of power gained and Steals X% of the Power Drained." This is not "Power Lock". With power drain, the opponent gains the power, but immediately looses it (and Doc steals a percentage of it). When awakened, his breakthrough abilities at the top of the description override those of the passive abilities when not awakened.

It operates in much the same way. However, when awakened you have to be careful of the breakthrough when fighting someone like Magik. If you hit the breakthrough with just under a bar of power on Magik, then power drain will cause her to gain power (just above the bar, which is immediately drained) and potentially land you in a vicious cycle of limbo.

Crusher

My_Superior wrote: »

Without his Signature Ability, Doctor Octopus CANNOT RESEARCH PHYSICS during it’s Breakthrough and gains less power. It is an improvement on his base power lock in every way. If you find yourself getting Limboed to death it’s your fault for not paying attention; use a heavy attack to remove all breakthroughs should you find yourself in this predicament.

This^^^^^^

Raganator

My_Superior wrote: »

Without his Signature Ability, Doctor Octopus CANNOT RESEARCH PHYSICS during it’s Breakthrough and gains less power. It is an improvement on his base power lock in every way. If you find yourself getting Limboed to death it’s your fault for not paying attention; use a heavy attack to remove all breakthroughs should you find yourself in this predicament.

Agreed.

SenorPants

My_Superior wrote: »

Without his Signature Ability, Doctor Octopus CANNOT RESEARCH PHYSICS during it’s Breakthrough and gains less power. It is an improvement on his base power lock in every way. If you find yourself getting Limboed to death it’s your fault for not paying attention; use a heavy attack to remove all breakthroughs should you find yourself in this predicament.

OK, help a brother out here. I have my Doc 5* unduped at r4, and he's an awesome utility/denial champ as he is. I've hesitated to awaken him (I have a tech gem, holding in case I ever get SL) because of all the "against Magik you'll get caught in infinite limbo" chatter." I get what you're saying about the slower power gain when unduped Doc lands Power Lock, but can't see how his duped physics ability would help against Magik.

So if you have a moment to share, how do you fight a stun immune Magik with md4 or 5 in war with duped Doctorpus and keep her out of Limbo?

Kabam Wolf

Hey guys. Just stepping in to confirm that the previous comments are correct here. Duped Doc Ock no longer does Power Lock.

Also @SenorPants, that's something you'd want to ask in Strategies and Tips. I'm going to go ahead and close out this thread since the OP's issue is not a bug. Thanks!