Best Sentinel?

EdisonLaw

With Bastion joining next month, who is the best Sentinel champ so far and why?

ViperOfChampion

Sentinel

Sentinal buff was a W, I forget immunities and for the 10th time, placed cgr on attack and forgot sentinel is now armour break immune, anyone have armour break passives in the game yet(ik he would still be immune to it just saying armour break passives would be OP)

Bendy

Omega Sentinel

Still os to me just because i love the self repair i love the plasma i love the pause the different utility like tracking cowardice or heal block but sentinel is close maybe bastion be the best sentinel will see but this is only my preference hate nimrod so much even trying him never liked him never took him up much in ranks

captain_rogers

Nimrod

All 3 do extremely

ViperOfChampion said:

Sentinal buff was a W, I forget immunities and for the 10th time, placed cgr on attack and forgot sentinel is now armour break immune, anyone have armour break passives in the game yet(ik he would still be immune to it just saying armour break passives would be OP)

Armor break passives doesn't make sense because how armor up buffs interact in the game.

There is a node called breakthrough, a early node which applies armor break passives to defender on each hit. Most mystics you remember as armor break immune, are actually immune to armor break debuffs, cuz a lot of nodes have armor break passives.

Essentially a armor break debuff has two characteristics - reduces armor, and removes a armor up BUFF. Armor up buff is super important because since havok release tech class is characterised by armor up buffs. Tech champs with armor up passives may/may not get removed by armor break debuffs.

Long story short, bleed debuff and bleed passive are both same things, just how the effect is applied changes. But armor break debuff and armor break passive are fundamentally two different abilities.

captain_rogers

Nimrod

All three champs do different things, they all are good you can't really compare them

Defense & sustainability - sentinel us obviously the best defender, and his tankiness and sp3 heal makes him the most safe attacker out of three.

Attack & Mutant hunting - obviously nimrod takes the crown here. He single handedly made mutant class a joke (except onslaught and bishop). There is a reason he's not a 7* yet.

Utility and Versatility - Omega sentinel got a lot of stuff in her bag, cowardice, non damage debuffs, armor, autoblock, nullify immune, heal via bleed and poison, heal block, miss control, plasma against mutants - and with synergies, prowess control, power drain, shocks. She can handle a wide variety of champs although ger rotation is tight.

EdisonLaw

Nimrod

captain_rogers said:

All three champs do different things, they all are good you can't really compare them

Defense & sustainability - sentinel us obviously the best defender, and his tankiness and sp3 heal makes him the most safe attacker out of three.

Attack & Mutant hunting - obviously nimrod takes the crown here. He single handedly made mutant class a joke (except onslaught and bishop). There is a reason he's not a 7* yet.

Utility and Versatility - Omega sentinel got a lot of stuff in her bag, cowardice, non damage debuffs, armor, autoblock, nullify immune, heal via bleed and poison, heal block, miss control, plasma against mutants - and with synergies, prowess control, power drain, shocks. She can handle a wide variety of champs although ger rotation is tight.

Month #3 of asking for 7* Nimgod

Average_Desi

Sentinel

captain_rogers said:

All 3 do extremely

ViperOfChampion said:

Armor break passives doesn't make sense because how armor up buffs interact in the game.

There is a node called breakthrough, a early node which applies armor break passives to defender on each hit. Most mystics you remember as armor break immune, are actually immune to armor break debuffs, cuz a lot of nodes have armor break passives.

Essentially a armor break debuff has two characteristics - reduces armor, and removes a armor up BUFF. Armor up buff is super important because since havok release tech class is characterised by armor up buffs. Tech champs with armor up passives may/may not get removed by armor break debuffs.

Long story short, bleed debuff and bleed passive are both same things, just how the effect is applied changes. But armor break debuff and armor break passive are fundamentally two different abilities.

Breakthrough does neither Armour Up passive nor Armour Break passive. It just increases and decreases armour rating. Neither a debuff/buff , nor a passive. So immunity to armour breaks does not factor there


An armour break removes an armour up EFFECT. not just buffs.
You can test this on shuri. And as per the game , it applies to Armour Break effects as a whole. Not just debuffs.

FeydRautha

Sentinel

Sentinel and it's not even close. Nimrod fell off in recent times. Overreliance on shock for damage and not being available as a 7 star is really holding him back. Omega Sentinel has great utilities and good damage but very stressful to play. With Sentinel just get to 100 charges and go ham. Super tanky, awesome immunities, insane damage and his sp3 is one of the most busted abilities in the game.

EdisonLaw

Nimrod

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FeydRautha said:

Sentinel and it's not even close. Nimrod fell off in recent times. Overreliance on shock for damage and not being available as a 7 star is really holding him back. Omega Sentinel has great utilities and good damage but very stressful to play. With Sentinel just get to 100 charges and go ham. Super tanky, awesome immunities, insane damage and his sp3 is one of the most busted abilities in the game.

Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn't shock immune though like Gentle. He isn't a 7* currently but that doesn't mean he's completely fallen off.

Emilia90

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

EdisonLaw

Nimrod

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Well he doesn't only kill mutants, he can work for other matchups as well like Bullseye, Gorr, and some others

shield311

Nimrod

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

TotemCorruption

shield311 said:

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

Man, I haven't seen WPX in competitive tiers of BG in a while. You must be playing solely victory track, lol....

EdisonLaw

Nimrod

TotemCorruption said:

shield311 said:

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

Man, I haven't seen WPX in competitive tiers of BG in a while. You must be playing solely victory track, lol....

He is still good on D though

captain_rogers

Nimrod

TotemCorruption said:

shield311 said:

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

Man, I haven't seen WPX in competitive tiers of BG in a while. You must be playing solely victory track, lol....

Everyone on celestial runs weapon x lmao.

TotemCorruption

captain_rogers said:

TotemCorruption said:

shield311 said:

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

Man, I haven't seen WPX in competitive tiers of BG in a while. You must be playing solely victory track, lol....

Everyone on celestial runs weapon x lmao.

Bro, weren't you already corrected once in this thread for your misinformation?

captain_rogers

Nimrod

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

TotemCorruption said:

shield311 said:

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

Man, I haven't seen WPX in competitive tiers of BG in a while. You must be playing solely victory track, lol....

Everyone on celestial runs weapon x lmao.

Bro, weren't you already corrected once in this thread for your misinformation?

But this time I'm correct. Go check out bg gameplays by big YouTubers most of them have him in deck and pick him. He's a great dual threat and bullseye counter in bgs.

PT_99

Nimrod

Countering mutants who don't need countering doesn't make every robot NimGod

Hopefully 7* NimGod will have plasma prefight because he obviously got upgrades after sitting on bench for so long.

FeydRautha

Sentinel

EdisonLaw said:

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FeydRautha said:

Sentinel and it's not even close. Nimrod fell off in recent times. Overreliance on shock for damage and not being available as a 7 star is really holding him back. Omega Sentinel has great utilities and good damage but very stressful to play. With Sentinel just get to 100 charges and go ham. Super tanky, awesome immunities, insane damage and his sp3 is one of the most busted abilities in the game.

Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn't shock immune though like Gentle. He isn't a 7* currently but that doesn't mean he's completely fallen off.

Did you create this poll for the sole purpose of glazing Nimrod?

Ultragamer

Sentinel

Easily sentinel very good with and without class advantage plus solid defense use even if nimrod was a 7* sentinel would be far more relevant with todays mutant class and with how the games meta is

shield311

Nimrod

TotemCorruption said:

shield311 said:

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

Man, I haven't seen WPX in competitive tiers of BG in a while. You must be playing solely victory track, lol....

crazy

Ragnaruk5178

Nimrod

Nimrod by far. Although his obvious flaw is somehow not having access to plasma, he straight up abuses most of the mutant class, which is literally the whole point of sentinels. He doesn’t even heal block like a normal champ. He straight up punishes them for it lol. He also has good synergies as well which counts towards his value.He reduces critical hits to nothing, and his energise coupled with his armor makes him very tanky on defense. I’m still convinced that many anti shock nodes in questing is due to him, that sos toad would be a joke if he wasn’t immune to shock. I don’t think he’ll be a 7 star any time soon honestly but if he does his value will increase to at the very least the top 5 techs.

Ragnaruk5178

Nimrod

The dude also literally ignores armor break effects as well despite having like 10 armor up buffs. Chad. He can also take on domino which is a nice boost

Ragnaruk5178

Nimrod

Moreover on the previous discussion of armor up buffs and passives because I can’t quote for some reason, I found out recently that bills pulverise also works on passives meaning that he can easily deal with the likes of Imiw in defense

EdisonLaw

Nimrod

FeydRautha said:

EdisonLaw said:

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FeydRautha said:

Sentinel and it's not even close. Nimrod fell off in recent times. Overreliance on shock for damage and not being available as a 7 star is really holding him back. Omega Sentinel has great utilities and good damage but very stressful to play. With Sentinel just get to 100 charges and go ham. Super tanky, awesome immunities, insane damage and his sp3 is one of the most busted abilities in the game.

Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn't shock immune though like Gentle. He isn't a 7* currently but that doesn't mean he's completely fallen off.

Did you create this poll for the sole purpose of glazing Nimrod?

No, Nimrod and Sentinel are close

TotemCorruption

Ragnaruk5178 said:

Moreover on the previous discussion of armor up buffs and passives because I can’t quote for some reason, I found out recently that bills pulverise also works on passives meaning that he can easily deal with the likes of Imiw in defense

Yeah between his pulverize and easy access to grit (not to mention the other utilities) he definitely shouldn't have stayed on my bench that long. I R2'd last week and will R3 and awaken him shortly as well.

EdisonLaw

Nimrod

Ragnaruk5178 said:

Nimrod by far. Although his obvious flaw is somehow not having access to plasma, he straight up abuses most of the mutant class, which is literally the whole point of sentinels. He doesn’t even heal block like a normal champ. He straight up punishes them for it lol. He also has good synergies as well which counts towards his value.He reduces critical hits to nothing, and his energise coupled with his armor makes him very tanky on defense. I’m still convinced that many anti shock nodes in questing is due to him, that sos toad would be a joke if he wasn’t immune to shock. I don’t think he’ll be a 7 star any time soon honestly but if he does his value will increase to at the very least the top 5 techs.

Him not being a 7* is holding him back unfortunately, if he was a 7* he’d easily be a top 3-4 tech

Ragnaruk5178

Nimrod

100% @EdisonLaw he is so wild honestly he’d be finally appreciated again. It would be nice if they could give him plasma upon mutant immunity but that may be overkill

Ragnaruk5178

Nimrod

@TotemCorruption same as you actually, excepting the dupe. I was really close but was blessed with rulk instead

TheUglyone123

Sentinel

TotemCorruption said:

shield311 said:

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

Man, I haven't seen WPX in competitive tiers of BG in a while. You must be playing solely victory track, lol....

TotemCorruption

TheUglyone123 said:

TotemCorruption said:

shield311 said:

Emilia90 said:

“Nimrod easily kills any mutant who isn’t shock immune” so he easily kills the non-meta relevant defenders and is useless against most of the common meta defenders lmao

Sinister, Domino, NTW and WPX are still meta relevant. Might work for havok too, and if toad becomes a 7 star then he is also a great dual threat, nimrod just needs 7* and kabam needs to stop hard countering certain attackers.

Onslaught and Dust are top 2 mutant defenders and nimrod dosen't take them thats true tho

Man, I haven't seen WPX in competitive tiers of BG in a while. You must be playing solely victory track, lol....

Ok, show me screenshots of recent high tier BG matches where WPX was a good defender.
I'm genuinely interested and am open to changing my mind.