Kingpin as a 7* to Revive the Skill Class?

Polygon

I'm sure im not the only one that feels he wouldn't be too broken as a 7*. Just like Sinister he suffers from self debuffing himself (despair/inequity etc).

Not to mention, we have champs like Mantis, Crossbones and BPCW that are far better attackers with far better debuff control (higher chance for xbones and cleanse/tranquilize for BP/Mantis).

He's also not even that hard of a defender, with a super easy sp1 to punish.

From what I've seen most people on the forums who were dissappinted with their rank 4 gem , had it from the skill class. And with Kate never coming as a 7*, Kingpin could at least give the Skill class what it needs to make a come back.

Darthbane3141

Yes

Serpent and Onslaught are 7 stars, no reason for Kingpin to not be one

Herbal_Taxman

Yes

Sure, why not? He wouldn’t be game breaking.

I’m surprised they haven’t thrown Stealth out there yet. He would be even less impactful than KP, but they would get an easy PR bump from all the spider fanboys who will go nuts.

Ragnaruk5178

Yes

He’s not broken in the slightest and they miraculously gave out chadbones as a 7 star so they cannot use that as an excuse. 😅 I have a 2-3 skill gem in a class of the unworthy champs and I’d gladly use it on him. Don’t even have him as a 6 star

SirGamesBond

Realistically speaking, he isn't coming.

Nameless_IW

Yes

We desperately need KP as 7* specially now with all the nonsense hazard shift on path 9 and 3 hazard shift mini bosses. KP is not even that OP as an attacker. We've already seem the introduction of r4 7* so i hope they don't expect us to fight rank 4 defenders with ascended 6* KP. There's nothing too OP in this game, all you have to do is road blocked it like you did to Hercules for that Areas fight in epoch of pain. pretty simple.

CandyCane2

Yes

Hear me out, 7* nick fury

EvilDavid666

I hope they do 7 star aegon that would be so op but yes I think it’s time for kingpin 7 star

startropics

Yes

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

WednesdayLength

I've genuinely never understood the hype for Kingpin. I don't think he's bad at all he's a great character but I've just never really felt what makes him so good compared to other characters. Pretty much everything I try and use him in I end up just using mole man instead. I don't get why he couldn't be a7 star, and I'd gladly pull him as a7 star

SirGamesBond

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

startropics

Yes

WednesdayLength said:

I've genuinely never understood the hype for Kingpin.

he got buffed 4 years ago i think? he was a great matchup for the tougher defenders back then like knull, terrax, thing, manthing, ibom. he was even meta relevant ~1.5-2 years ago against scorpion, spot, and one of the more popular photon counters at the time.

but now scorpion isn't available as a 7*, spot was tricky at one point but the community figured him out, and photon has much better counters.

he was a even good against korgs.

KP had great utility. 100% shrug chance with hood, each degen from the l1 reduced attack by 50% and def ability accuracy by 65% (130% at 2 stacks pre nerf, great against things). he could take annoying hazard shift nodes and overpower mode gave him tons of damage.

but he can be slow in BGs, inequity messes with him just like sinister, and he's not the defensive threat he once was with all the new mutants and mutant reworks.

Polygon

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

Remember Synergies are useless in BGs and in war you can only fit 3 champs, of which saga defenders are on the rise meaning you most likely will not have enough counters for the rest of the team. Whats he going to be op for? Story mode? Literally everyone works. Outside of BGs and war, the only other content i can think of is EOP style both remember those always have class gates, 7* gates, or tag gates.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7* when we have OP champions like Onslaught/Serpent etc ALREADY in the game. KP is super mid in BGs, hes no hulkling, scorpion, kate, torch etc

GoingBack

No

Kate. Still don’t know why people voted Shang Chi instead of her.

ahmynuts

Herbal_Taxman said:

Sure, why not? He wouldn’t be game breaking.

I’m surprised they haven’t thrown Stealth out there yet. He would be even less impactful than KP, but they would get an easy PR bump from all the spider fanboys who will go nuts.

Bro has never played stealthy

EdisonLaw

Yes

EvilDavid666 said:

I hope they do 7 star aegon that would be so op but yes I think it’s time for kingpin 7 star

Aegon wouldn’t have use outside of everest content

Ragnaruk5178

Yes

With all due respect it’s absolutely pointless hoping for Kate when there’s no kingpin mate

captain_rogers

Yes

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Hood synergy only works every 20 seconds right? Or will he purify every debuff?

SirGamesBond

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

startropics

Yes

captain_rogers said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Hood synergy only works every 20 seconds right? Or will he purify every debuff?

every debuff but like crossbones i think there's a limit to how many per second.

Wu_Bangerz23

Yes

startropics said:

captain_rogers said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Hood synergy only works every 20 seconds right? Or will he purify every debuff?

every debuff but like crossbones i think there's a limit to how many per second.

It's like every half second....if you slow your combos he rage purifies everything

Herbal_Taxman

Yes

ahmynuts said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Sure, why not? He wouldn’t be game breaking.

I’m surprised they haven’t thrown Stealth out there yet. He would be even less impactful than KP, but they would get an easy PR bump from all the spider fanboys who will go nuts.

Bro has never played stealthy

Played him plenty when he was five star. I think I used Stealthy for my first clear of GM in 6.4. He’s good, not amazing, IMO.

I think his damage rotation would be pretty tedious in modern, endgame fights.

captain_rogers

Yes

Herbal_Taxman said:

ahmynuts said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Sure, why not? He wouldn’t be game breaking.

I’m surprised they haven’t thrown Stealth out there yet. He would be even less impactful than KP, but they would get an easy PR bump from all the spider fanboys who will go nuts.

Bro has never played stealthy

Played him plenty when he was five star. I think I used Stealthy for my first clear of GM in 6.4. He’s good, not amazing, IMO.

I think his damage rotation would be pretty tedious in modern, endgame fights.

He could be insane for battlegrounds.

Polygon

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

If you claim that KP is too op to be a 7* then where were you when the champs that were actually OP like Serpent/Onslaught were released/not rebalanced?

Polygon

captain_rogers said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

ahmynuts said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Sure, why not? He wouldn’t be game breaking.

I’m surprised they haven’t thrown Stealth out there yet. He would be even less impactful than KP, but they would get an easy PR bump from all the spider fanboys who will go nuts.

Bro has never played stealthy

Played him plenty when he was five star. I think I used Stealthy for my first clear of GM in 6.4. He’s good, not amazing, IMO.

I think his damage rotation would be pretty tedious in modern, endgame fights.

He could be insane for battlegrounds.

In retrospect i should have added Stealthy to the Title as well. If we can get sparky as a 7* , no reason not to get Stealthy.

captain_rogers

Yes

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

If you claim that KP is too op to be a 7* then where were you when the champs that were actually OP like Serpent/Onslaught were released/not rebalanced?

He is just sarcastic.

captain_rogers

Yes

Polygon said:

captain_rogers said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

ahmynuts said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Sure, why not? He wouldn’t be game breaking.

I’m surprised they haven’t thrown Stealth out there yet. He would be even less impactful than KP, but they would get an easy PR bump from all the spider fanboys who will go nuts.

Bro has never played stealthy

Played him plenty when he was five star. I think I used Stealthy for my first clear of GM in 6.4. He’s good, not amazing, IMO.

I think his damage rotation would be pretty tedious in modern, endgame fights.

He could be insane for battlegrounds.

In retrospect i should have added Stealthy to the Title as well. If we can get sparky as a 7* , no reason not to get Stealthy.

Yeah stealthy is due. We also don't have baron zemo and Nick Fury, The game progreseed beyond zemo gate, and there are many Nick counters nowadays, both in attack and defense. Also I would love a 7* Aegon.

Only 7* skill champ that would be too op to release is kate.

captain_rogers

Yes

captain_rogers said:

Polygon said:

captain_rogers said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

ahmynuts said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Sure, why not? He wouldn’t be game breaking.

I’m surprised they haven’t thrown Stealth out there yet. He would be even less impactful than KP, but they would get an easy PR bump from all the spider fanboys who will go nuts.

Bro has never played stealthy

Played him plenty when he was five star. I think I used Stealthy for my first clear of GM in 6.4. He’s good, not amazing, IMO.

I think his damage rotation would be pretty tedious in modern, endgame fights.

He could be insane for battlegrounds.

In retrospect i should have added Stealthy to the Title as well. If we can get sparky as a 7* , no reason not to get Stealthy.

Yeah stealthy is due. We also don't have baron zemo and Nick Fury, The game progreseed beyond zemo gate, and there are many Nick counters nowadays, both in attack and defense. Also I would love a 7* Aegon.

Only 7* skill champ that would be too op to release is kate.

Add valk to the list too

SirGamesBond

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

If you claim that KP is too op to be a 7* then where were you when the champs that were actually OP like Serpent/Onslaught were released/not rebalanced?

The same thing happened to domino and ghost when they were launched, broken champs got added to early shiny 6* rarity.
It's like you never understand Kabam's perspective, if it's a defender, it's going to get added.

I suggest you r4 your favorite skill champ.
We all know it's Jabrooni Panther.

captain_rogers said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

If you claim that KP is too op to be a 7* then where were you when the champs that were actually OP like Serpent/Onslaught were released/not rebalanced?

He is just sarcastic.

We all love blade!

Polygon

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

If you claim that KP is too op to be a 7* then where were you when the champs that were actually OP like Serpent/Onslaught were released/not rebalanced?

The same thing happened to domino and ghost when they were launched, broken champs got added to early shiny 6* rarity.
It's like you never understand Kabam's perspective, if it's a defender, it's going to get added.

I suggest you r4 your favorite skill champ.
We all know it's Jabrooni Panther.

captain_rogers said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

If you claim that KP is too op to be a 7* then where were you when the champs that were actually OP like Serpent/Onslaught were released/not rebalanced?

He is just sarcastic.

We all love blade!

I mean we have attackers as 7* that are busted too, or at the least much better than KP.

Sparky , juggs, Crossbones, silk, deadpool, dazzler , medusa, scream etc.

But i do agree with you that if compared to Jabari, Kingpin would be too op

SirGamesBond

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

If you claim that KP is too op to be a 7* then where were you when the champs that were actually OP like Serpent/Onslaught were released/not rebalanced?

The same thing happened to domino and ghost when they were launched, broken champs got added to early shiny 6* rarity.
It's like you never understand Kabam's perspective, if it's a defender, it's going to get added.

I suggest you r4 your favorite skill champ.
We all know it's Jabrooni Panther.

captain_rogers said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

Polygon said:

SirGamesBond said:

startropics said:

i'd love the 7* but i don't think they like his hood synergy.

maybe i'm wrong but "+100% Rage Purify Ability Accuracy" goes against their modern design philosophy and they like stuff that gives full advantage against class advantage but only partial against the rest.

inequity is more common these days so he will hurt a little on offense and there's a lot of mutant attackers that counter purify so here's hoping they release him.

Exactly, Hood/joe synergy on top of sinister synergy. He just holds the ground way too hard.

You guys are trying too hard to give them a reason to have champs like KP stuck as a 7*

You are correct!
They came to my residence and asked my permission to release 7* KP.
And with no remorse, I refused, and ordered them to not release him.

If you claim that KP is too op to be a 7* then where were you when the champs that were actually OP like Serpent/Onslaught were released/not rebalanced?

He is just sarcastic.

We all love blade!

I mean we have attackers as 7* that are busted too, or at the least much better than KP.

Sparky , juggs, Crossbones, silk, deadpool, dazzler , medusa, scream etc.

But i do agree with you that if compared to Jabari, Kingpin would be too op

They already regret releasing 7* Jaggu.
Starky had to pass thier balance team due to Lags. Tigra couldn't pass it. The way you feel about kp, multiply it by 10 and that's how much I want a 7* tigra.
Crossbones is absolutely not beginner friendly.
Silk is new herc, she got newly released early 7* treatment.
Deadpool and medusa got buffed, every single buff is going to be released as 7*.
Dazzler is still new, 99% of the community don't have her.
Scream is not busted. Her Rotation can be disrupted by many fight factors.


The baseline of my argument on kingpin is.....
If you consider him outside BGs, he is busted in other modes. His op sustainability is an argument against him. No new champ have that potent regen (sinsiter being the exception). I used KP in AQ, if I die with him, after using the smallest revive combined with a couple of fights, he is back to +60% health.