Bastion or Jean Grey: Who are you looking forward to more?

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  • HassamaMamaHassamaMama Member Posts: 325 ★★★
    Bastion
    EdisonLaw said:
    EdisonLaw said:
    I said it on Lags’ stream already - I want Bastion to have the utility of Omega Sentinel and the damage potency of Nimrod. It looks like we might be getting more of a combination of FAM and Warlock instead, but hey that’s still amazing. The Tech class still needs something insane (even more insane than Jack), so Bastion’s my vote. But still VERY excited for Jean.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,460 ★★★★★
    Jean Grey
    Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 890 ★★★
    Bastion
    Mutant killer
  • Norman_OroNorman_Oro Member Posts: 63
    edited March 1
    Jean Grey
    Not to cop out, but I'm looking forward to both Jean Grey and Bastion. And I wouldn't complain if I got either as a 6* (or possibly eventually a 7*) because they both seem really cool in terms of design and abilities. However, my roster needs a Jean Grey just slightly more than it needs a Bastion.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,716 ★★★★★
    Bastion

    Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me

    Welcome back :)
  • OakenshieldOakenshield Member Posts: 2,547 ★★★★★
    Bastion

    Polygon said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    shield311 said:

    tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

    they just hate bullseye atp lol

    I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
    They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
    Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
    He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

    Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
    I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,616 ★★★★★
    Jean Grey
    shield311 said:

    tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

    they just hate bullseye atp lol

    Um you can use Bully as an attacker too lol.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,460 ★★★★★
    edited March 1
    Jean Grey
    Emilia90 said:

    Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me

    Welcome back :)
    Thanks! Time to piss people off again 💀
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,643 ★★★★★
    Bastion

    Polygon said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    shield311 said:

    tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

    they just hate bullseye atp lol

    I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
    They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
    Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
    He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

    Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
    I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.
    He is one of the best skill r4 options though, there aren’t that many skill dual threats other than him
  • OakenshieldOakenshield Member Posts: 2,547 ★★★★★
    Bastion
    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    shield311 said:

    tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

    they just hate bullseye atp lol

    I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
    They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
    Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
    He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

    Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
    I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.
    He is one of the best skill r4 options though, there aren’t that many skill dual threats other than him
    The point of the above comments is that with all of the hard counters for him that have been coming out, he is far less of a threat from a defense standpoint, and while he is solid on offense he isn’t outstanding. So, while technically he is still a dual threat, he is substantially reduced in strength/value as one. Given this I’m more inclined to consider a really good utility choice like Chee or Black Cat or a glass cannon like Hit Monkey.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,643 ★★★★★
    Bastion

    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    shield311 said:

    tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

    they just hate bullseye atp lol

    I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
    They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
    Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
    He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

    Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
    I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.
    He is one of the best skill r4 options though, there aren’t that many skill dual threats other than him
    The point of the above comments is that with all of the hard counters for him that have been coming out, he is far less of a threat from a defense standpoint, and while he is solid on offense he isn’t outstanding. So, while technically he is still a dual threat, he is substantially reduced in strength/value as one. Given this I’m more inclined to consider a really good utility choice like Chee or Black Cat or a glass cannon like Hit Monkey.
    They are decent options as well
  • Kingering_KingKingering_King Member Posts: 1,400 ★★★
    Bastion
    Loved the show
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,643 ★★★★★
    Bastion

    Loved the show

    Loved it as well. I wished they used his Second Coming/Messiah Complex appearance
  • Dr. CrabDr. Crab Member Posts: 704 ★★★
    edited March 2
    Honestly Bastion looks pretty dang cool but Jean Grey is just so iconic and super overdue.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,122 ★★★★★
    Bastion

    Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me

    Welcome back mate @ItsClobberinTime
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,122 ★★★★★
    Bastion
    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    shield311 said:

    tho its kinda sad how kabam is killing bullseye with every other attacker they release, 4/6 champions this year HARD counter bullseye, now I'm genuinely considering ranking black cat over him to r3. Like come on give him a break, alot of old champions counter him too, where's more serpent counters?

    they just hate bullseye atp lol

    I predicted hed be a Bullseye counter, not based off him at all, but solely based off the fact we get a new counter for Bullseye every month it feels. Nail in the coffin for anyone that used their r4 skill gem on him
    They can still use him on attack, he’s a good attacker.
    Hes fine outside of BGs, but in BGs hes too slow especially without suicides (which nobody runs for BGs anyway)
    He is pretty good against photons in bgs (can take out similar rank ones in less than 60secs) but that's it.

    Also I'm pretty annoyed how every bullseye counter also hard counters him (shuts his two mechanics completely), making him a noodle, whereas serpent onslaught enchantress and other tough defender counters only handle shut some of the mechanics of the target defender, leaving some room for taking damage if mess up.
    I for one am happy that I held off on my final run of Epoch until this upcoming weekend. If I do pull a skill gem, I’m now probably not going to use it on Bullseye, and he was one of my front runners before.
    He is one of the best skill r4 options though, there aren’t that many skill dual threats other than him
    You've lost the plot if you consider bullseye a dual threat. Sure if you compare him to like korg/KM/attuma but he was always known for his defensive prowess. And thats basically been disposed through a trash compactor now with all these mutant buffs/new champs. The skill class is in desperate need of new 7*'s or reworked ones.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,460 ★★★★★
    Jean Grey
    Polygon said:

    Always annoyed me the fact that we had Phoenix but not Jean, from the moment I downloaded this in Christmas 2015 so this is a big deal for me

    Welcome back mate @ItsClobberinTime
    Thanks! Glad to see some of y'all are still here I thought most of you would be gone by now.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,643 ★★★★★
    Bastion
    So after watching both deep dives, I am definitely excited for both, they have lots of potential.
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