Scream and Jack O Lantern balance update predictions

EdisonLaw

So as many of us expected, Count Nefaria and Shathra are staying the same. What are your predictions for Jack and Scream? Personally I think they won’t get changed either

Also what about Spiral and Dazzler?

Bendy

I think these 4 scream jack spiral dazzler are honestly fine they have uses have counters they do what there suppose to

kvirr

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

CandyCane2

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

This might seem overpowered, but all his dot damage should be degen instead of poison and incinerate. Or at least a synergy.

EdisonLaw

CandyCane2 said:

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

This might seem overpowered, but all his dot damage should be degen instead of poison and incinerate. Or at least a synergy.

Synergy would be fine but a bit op to include in his base kit

EdisonLaw

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

Maybe they could extend the pause at 15 fervors by a bit (not required though), thoughts?

shield311

EdisonLaw said:

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

Maybe they could extend the pause at 15 fervors by a bit (not required though), thoughts?

nah she needs access to destroy every buff in the game and not just a handful, she's literally irrelevant outside serpent icl. also needs more time on fervor yeah or refresh ruptures after throwing blades or something, then she will be usable outside the most perfect matchup.

EdisonLaw

shield311 said:

EdisonLaw said:

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

Maybe they could extend the pause at 15 fervors by a bit (not required though), thoughts?

nah she needs access to destroy every buff in the game and not just a handful, she's literally irrelevant outside serpent icl. also needs more time on fervor yeah or refresh ruptures after throwing blades or something, then she will be usable outside the most perfect matchup.

Yeah I think she should be able to refresh the ruptures if they are falling off, maybe via a heavy

Usagicassidy

I genuinely don't hypothesize that they will change any of the four next champions.

They have A LOT of rework and rebalances and new characters and all sorts of things in the upcoming months. Any chance they have to say "good enough," I don't think they will tweak or change anything. While both Jack and Spiral *could* use minor boosts, I think Jack is actually right where Kabam wants him and Dazzler and Scream are performing exceptionally well without being broken.

captain_rogers

shield311 said:

EdisonLaw said:

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

Maybe they could extend the pause at 15 fervors by a bit (not required though), thoughts?

nah she needs access to destroy every buff in the game and not just a handful, she's literally irrelevant outside serpent icl. also needs more time on fervor yeah or refresh ruptures after throwing blades or something, then she will be usable outside the most perfect matchup.

Crt. She is extremely overrated. Perfect against serpent. Mid asf against others.

ShashankGupta

See guys there is no way any of those 4 champs get any changes if leader didn't got a little bit tune up then no changes will be done to these champs also we need more old champs buffs pls don't let these new champs take that spot if they are fine

ShashankGupta

I am waiting for the first batch of buffs info including patriot to see who could be the other two buffs and will they just tune up or full rework?

dr2ws

If I had to choose 1 champion for a change, it would be Spiral, there’s something about her that’s not just not hitting it for me.

WednesdayLength

CandyCane2 said:

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

This might seem overpowered, but all his dot damage should be degen instead of poison and incinerate. Or at least a synergy.

Literally why though lmao

WednesdayLength

ShashankGupta said:

See guys there is no way any of those 4 champs get any changes if leader didn't got a little bit tune up then no changes will be done to these champs also we need more old champs buffs pls don't let these new champs take that spot if they are fine

Leader remaining as he is has nothing to do with whether or not any other champions get rebalanced because it's a case by case basis

WednesdayLength

EdisonLaw said:

shield311 said:

EdisonLaw said:

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

Maybe they could extend the pause at 15 fervors by a bit (not required though), thoughts?

nah she needs access to destroy every buff in the game and not just a handful, she's literally irrelevant outside serpent icl. also needs more time on fervor yeah or refresh ruptures after throwing blades or something, then she will be usable outside the most perfect matchup.

Yeah I think she should be able to refresh the ruptures if they are falling off, maybe via a heavy

If they make her ruptures refresh then they would reduce the damage each one grants to her special attacks. The bonus damage is balanced against them being kinda hard to keep at high stacks

kvirr

WednesdayLength said:

CandyCane2 said:

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

This might seem overpowered, but all his dot damage should be degen instead of poison and incinerate. Or at least a synergy.

Literally why though lmao

to make him …. Better ?

Yodabolt21

The next champ to be balanced should be Isophyne. Everyone else is fine. Still to early to tell for Gentle and Falcon.

WednesdayLength

kvirr said:

WednesdayLength said:

CandyCane2 said:

kvirr said:

Jack should get a little bit longer DOT duration, spiral is fine, she won’t get changed. Scream is also perfectly fine. Dazzler hopefully won’t be changed.

I really think just just needs that one thing to make him a really good skill champ on offense

This might seem overpowered, but all his dot damage should be degen instead of poison and incinerate. Or at least a synergy.

Literally why though lmao

to make him …. Better ?

By that justification why even have different types of dot lmao. He can be used with the sentinel relic, which would make degen actively worse for him, and he can already counter immunities with synergies. Who are you fighting with him that you need dot that no one is immune to?

EdisonLaw

ShashankGupta said:

I am waiting for the first batch of buffs info including patriot to see who could be the other two buffs and will they just tune up or full rework?

Patriot will probably get a moderate buff

BuggyDClown

IMO Scream's buff should last 1 or 2 second more especially sp1. That way optimal damage can be done reliably in endgame content.