Let's talk adress the bird in the Room,Falcon Joaquim ,i wanna hear people suggestion for changes

GilbertoJunior

The best i have is a 4 stars but i'm planning to Rank up the 6 star version in second of april when the Featured resets, as low the rarity i can see some issues that others with higher rarities also talked about, his missing Anti Miss even tought he was build as a Heavy Anti enchantress, surprisingly has good damage (His damage is normal but is above average,the thing is that science class got soo much heavy hitters that his damage seems abysmall when compared to others), some buffs could last longer and could have a bit higher potency, his Traumas for example you could increase in 3% and would make a considerable difference, his physical Vulnerability not being avaliable in Beak performance without Awakening kind takes out some damage, his physical ultility could be higher but being semi Buff immune is already good,a immunity to poison of fully buff immune, being able to regen from crit hits from Non skill champions could save you in some cases

Well, Thats it for this week essay and if you have more to add to the conversation i would like to hear and also form some feedback for Kabam when the Balance programm start working on him and Zola

captain_rogers

Just increase his trauma potencies and give him one more debolitate debuff (can reduce the potency to match existing debuffs) to counter enchantress. And make it so that his wing attacks won't miss (to fully counter enchantress)

RottenSwamps

bird

GrassKnuckles

I say we wait a couple months since he's barely been in the game for a month to judge him yet. Give him time, give content creators time, then re-evaluate. It's way to soon right now. I personally think he has some interesting stuff I want to test out. Just haven't pulled him yet

GilbertoJunior

RottenSwamps said:

bird

The man speaks the truth

GilbertoJunior

captain_rogers said:

Just increase his trauma potencies and give him one more debolitate debuff (can reduce the potency to match existing debuffs) to counter enchantress. And make it so that his wing attacks won't miss (to fully counter enchantress)

captain_rogers said:

Just increase his trauma potencies and give him one more debolitate debuff (can reduce the potency to match existing debuffs) to counter enchantress. And make it so that his wing attacks won't miss (to fully counter enchantress)

There is this visual bug that says the max of trauma is 30, they could make that a actual thing and buff the traumas to 8%,240% burst damage and for the debilitate, reduce potency to 10% but increase stack by 1, 2 against Mystical champions

Theres the physical Vulnerability that should be 10 seconds and be applied when doing medium ending combo while at Beak perfomace

TotemCorruption

Was "Beak Performance" a pun? That's not bad...
Anyway, I selected him out of a Nexus over Red Hulk and Gentle.
I don't understand how people can say he needs a buff; he wasn't meant to be the champ everyone is criticizing him for not being.

I don't even need him to be an Enchantress counter; I have enough already, even took her with Jack recently.
What I'm really interested in is his sig ability: the automatic Slow debuff to start the fight, and the bursts of physical damage every time an opponent's unstoppable fails to proc.
If people can't envision scenarios in which he's going to cheese very difficult end-game fights (including future ones), then I don't know what to say...

GilbertoJunior

TotemCorruption said:

Was "Beak Performance" a pun? That's not bad...
Anyway, I selected him out of a Nexus over Red Hulk and Gentle.
I don't understand how people can say he needs a buff; he wasn't meant to be the champ everyone is criticizing him for not being.

I don't even need him to be an Enchantress counter; I have enough already, even took her with Jack recently.
What I'm really interested in is his sig ability: the automatic Slow debuff to start the fight, and the bursts of physical damage every time an opponent's unstoppable fails to proc.
If people can't envision scenarios in which he's going to cheese very difficult end-game fights (including future ones), then I don't know what to say...

He does what he was meant to do but he still feels like missing stuff due to the new standards for Science class, his the case of "It's good,but can be better"

Small buffs on his debuffs is already kind of enough,and give him decelarate against Mystical champions to counter Destroyer,besides theres no complains

I have seen a guy using him against Deathless Thanos and brother in christ,IT WORKED

FrostGiantLord

Can anyone give me some advice on how to play him, and what his good matchups are? I just rolled over Zola and a Dazzler dupe to pull him from the Titan 😭

GilbertoJunior

FrostGiantLord said:

Can anyone give me some advice on how to play him, and what his good matchups are? I just rolled over Zola and a Dazzler dupe to pull him from the Titan 😭

Mystical characters and characters that require you to counter Unstoppable and Evade,also Ai control by making it more agressive and ton of easy acess debuffs, the unique Mystic he doesn't counter is Destroyer beaucase his immune to slow, but you can also counter non Mystic characters who have slow or evade,and his immune to dexterity precision

EdisonLaw

GrassKnuckles said:

I say we wait a couple months since he's barely been in the game for a month to judge him yet. Give him time, give content creators time, then re-evaluate. It's way to soon right now. I personally think he has some interesting stuff I want to test out. Just haven't pulled him yet

He is good but not, perfect. It feels like he’s missing something

Harryatomix

I played with him a lot, ongoing bg meta supports him so was able to take some matches in GC. My experience is with him at R2. He is an okay champ, he works well for enchantress but it still took me like 70s to take her down, Silk can do that matchup much faster than him.

Positives:

He can maintain slow almost throughout the fight, that is his strongest utility, his block profieciency and regen on special are decent.

Negatives:

His damage is not that good, in addition to that he has a very aggressive playstyle, his kit helps with that (in peak performance mode he makes opponent aggressive), this type of playstyle doesn't work for many opponents (like Dthanos or even enchantress).

His Physical Vulnerability is of very short duration of 4s, this is just not enough and can be felt when launching sps without it. His Fury from sp1 is very weak sometimes I feel like going for only sp2s even if I have max traumas. He is fine addition to science class but I expected more damage from him kinda feels like pre buff spider punk to me. Hopefully his rebalance does him justice and may he be rebalanced soon along with Patriot.

GilbertoJunior

Harryatomix said:

I played with him a lot, ongoing bg meta supports him so was able to take some matches in GC. My experience is with him at R2. He is an okay champ, he works well for enchantress but it still took me like 70s to take her down, Silk can do that matchup much faster than him.

Positives:

He can maintain slow almost throughout the fight, that is his strongest utility, his block profieciency and regen on special are decent.

Negatives:

His damage is not that good, in addition to that he has a very aggressive playstyle, his kit helps with that (in peak performance mode he makes opponent aggressive), this type of playstyle doesn't work for many opponents (like Dthanos or even enchantress).

His Physical Vulnerability is of very short duration of 4s, this is just not enough and can be felt when launching sps without it. His Fury from sp1 is very weak sometimes I feel like going for only sp2s even if I have max traumas. He is fine addition to science class but I expected more damage from him kinda feels like pre buff spider punk to me. Hopefully his rebalance does him justice and may he be rebalanced soon along with Patriot.

They only rebalance Champions who released together and theres a huge chance they don't do that at all or the balance is minimal

And Spider Punk is the best example of how he feels, he needs more stuff than Punk but you can see is a similar path, his traumas and debilitate you increasing by 3% and 3 seconds already makes a difference, increasing the amount of deilitate by 1 also could make a difference, 45% more debuff duration

The physical Vulnerability being 4 seconds when it should be 10,it doesn't make sense at all, and even with debilitate doesn't help is like 1 extra second

The S1 fury either should be buffed or gain more potency based on amount of debuffs,also someone mentioned that a precision could be a better option for him

The more aggressive gameplay is actually good, but if you had some reward for Intercepting so much, it would be a good incentive, pause your debuffs for certain time when you Intercept, that is like 30% of his problems gone

WednesdayLength

GilbertoJunior said:

Harryatomix said:

I played with him a lot, ongoing bg meta supports him so was able to take some matches in GC. My experience is with him at R2. He is an okay champ, he works well for enchantress but it still took me like 70s to take her down, Silk can do that matchup much faster than him.

Positives:

He can maintain slow almost throughout the fight, that is his strongest utility, his block profieciency and regen on special are decent.

Negatives:

His damage is not that good, in addition to that he has a very aggressive playstyle, his kit helps with that (in peak performance mode he makes opponent aggressive), this type of playstyle doesn't work for many opponents (like Dthanos or even enchantress).

His Physical Vulnerability is of very short duration of 4s, this is just not enough and can be felt when launching sps without it. His Fury from sp1 is very weak sometimes I feel like going for only sp2s even if I have max traumas. He is fine addition to science class but I expected more damage from him kinda feels like pre buff spider punk to me. Hopefully his rebalance does him justice and may he be rebalanced soon along with Patriot.

They only rebalance Champions who released together and theres a huge chance they don't do that at all or the balance is minimal

And Spider Punk is the best example of how he feels, he needs more stuff than Punk but you can see is a similar path, his traumas and debilitate you increasing by 3% and 3 seconds already makes a difference, increasing the amount of deilitate by 1 also could make a difference, 45% more debuff duration

The physical Vulnerability being 4 seconds when it should be 10,it doesn't make sense at all, and even with debilitate doesn't help is like 1 extra second

The S1 fury either should be buffed or gain more potency based on amount of debuffs,also someone mentioned that a precision could be a better option for him

The more aggressive gameplay is actually good, but if you had some reward for Intercepting so much, it would be a good incentive, pause your debuffs for certain time when you Intercept, that is like 30% of his problems gone

They won't increase his debilitate number because that would completely remove enchantress as a difficult fight. He's not supposed to be a complete hard counter to get he's supposed to be a really solid option that still requires a little bit of skill

GilbertoJunior

WednesdayLength said:

GilbertoJunior said:

Harryatomix said:

I played with him a lot, ongoing bg meta supports him so was able to take some matches in GC. My experience is with him at R2. He is an okay champ, he works well for enchantress but it still took me like 70s to take her down, Silk can do that matchup much faster than him.

Positives:

He can maintain slow almost throughout the fight, that is his strongest utility, his block profieciency and regen on special are decent.

Negatives:

His damage is not that good, in addition to that he has a very aggressive playstyle, his kit helps with that (in peak performance mode he makes opponent aggressive), this type of playstyle doesn't work for many opponents (like Dthanos or even enchantress).

His Physical Vulnerability is of very short duration of 4s, this is just not enough and can be felt when launching sps without it. His Fury from sp1 is very weak sometimes I feel like going for only sp2s even if I have max traumas. He is fine addition to science class but I expected more damage from him kinda feels like pre buff spider punk to me. Hopefully his rebalance does him justice and may he be rebalanced soon along with Patriot.

They only rebalance Champions who released together and theres a huge chance they don't do that at all or the balance is minimal

And Spider Punk is the best example of how he feels, he needs more stuff than Punk but you can see is a similar path, his traumas and debilitate you increasing by 3% and 3 seconds already makes a difference, increasing the amount of deilitate by 1 also could make a difference, 45% more debuff duration

The physical Vulnerability being 4 seconds when it should be 10,it doesn't make sense at all, and even with debilitate doesn't help is like 1 extra second

The S1 fury either should be buffed or gain more potency based on amount of debuffs,also someone mentioned that a precision could be a better option for him

The more aggressive gameplay is actually good, but if you had some reward for Intercepting so much, it would be a good incentive, pause your debuffs for certain time when you Intercept, that is like 30% of his problems gone

They won't increase his debilitate number because that would completely remove enchantress as a difficult fight. He's not supposed to be a complete hard counter to get he's supposed to be a really solid option that still requires a little bit of skill

But he was built as a hard counter that the unique thing missing being Anti miss,he was sold as a Enchantress counter as Negasonic Teenager was sold a Bullseye hard counter, the slow at the beginning completly shuts down 2/3 of her speells effects and the debilitate mechanic for exacly her spells , create the disease and sell the cure

PT_99

Dud who won't be buffed.

GilbertoJunior

PT_99 said:

Dud who won't be buffed.

Unlike Leader they can't use the excuse of "Leader din't need a buff due to his performance on war" , Falcon is just good for questing and some fights on war,even the majority of content creators want him buffed

Harryatomix

GilbertoJunior said:

PT_99 said:

Dud who won't be buffed.

Unlike Leader they can't use the excuse of "Leader din't need a buff due to his performance on war" , Falcon is just good for questing and some fights on war,even the majority of content creators want him buffed

That’s a good point he doesn’t exactly bring anything to the table. They should have been more liberal with falcon.

Polygon

If negasonic didnt get buffed , i doubt he will

GilbertoJunior

Polygon said:

If negasonic didnt get buffed , i doubt he will

She din't needed beaucase of her performance in both War and against all the skill class,even as a defender she was being used regularly, She had a place and was great at something, Joaquim is good in a lot of things but great in nothing besides most Mystical champions

Polygon

GilbertoJunior said:

Polygon said:

If negasonic didnt get buffed , i doubt he will

She din't needed beaucase of her performance in both War and against all the skill class,even as a defender she was being used regularly, She had a place and was great at something, Joaquim is good in a lot of things but great in nothing besides most Mystical champions

Her damage isn't viable for BGs where time matters for war shes fine yes. Torres getting a buff i can see them having a concern for being too strong of a counter for enchantress basically trivializing her, the same way negasonic wouldve with more damage

GilbertoJunior

Polygon said:

GilbertoJunior said:

Polygon said:

If negasonic didnt get buffed , i doubt he will

She din't needed beaucase of her performance in both War and against all the skill class,even as a defender she was being used regularly, She had a place and was great at something, Joaquim is good in a lot of things but great in nothing besides most Mystical champions

Her damage isn't viable for BGs where time matters for war shes fine yes. Torres getting a buff i can see them having a concern for being too strong of a counter for enchantress basically trivializing her, the same way negasonic wouldve with more damage

In BGs she's doing pretty normal against skill champions, and you don't make 1 character obsolete beaucase you released a heavy counter, look at how many Serpent and Onslaught counters we have and they stilla option, Joaquim getting more debuff potency and duration won't make enchantress useless all of a sudden

WednesdayLength

GilbertoJunior said:

WednesdayLength said:

GilbertoJunior said:

Harryatomix said:

I played with him a lot, ongoing bg meta supports him so was able to take some matches in GC. My experience is with him at R2. He is an okay champ, he works well for enchantress but it still took me like 70s to take her down, Silk can do that matchup much faster than him.

Positives:

He can maintain slow almost throughout the fight, that is his strongest utility, his block profieciency and regen on special are decent.

Negatives:

His damage is not that good, in addition to that he has a very aggressive playstyle, his kit helps with that (in peak performance mode he makes opponent aggressive), this type of playstyle doesn't work for many opponents (like Dthanos or even enchantress).

His Physical Vulnerability is of very short duration of 4s, this is just not enough and can be felt when launching sps without it. His Fury from sp1 is very weak sometimes I feel like going for only sp2s even if I have max traumas. He is fine addition to science class but I expected more damage from him kinda feels like pre buff spider punk to me. Hopefully his rebalance does him justice and may he be rebalanced soon along with Patriot.

They only rebalance Champions who released together and theres a huge chance they don't do that at all or the balance is minimal

And Spider Punk is the best example of how he feels, he needs more stuff than Punk but you can see is a similar path, his traumas and debilitate you increasing by 3% and 3 seconds already makes a difference, increasing the amount of deilitate by 1 also could make a difference, 45% more debuff duration

The physical Vulnerability being 4 seconds when it should be 10,it doesn't make sense at all, and even with debilitate doesn't help is like 1 extra second

The S1 fury either should be buffed or gain more potency based on amount of debuffs,also someone mentioned that a precision could be a better option for him

The more aggressive gameplay is actually good, but if you had some reward for Intercepting so much, it would be a good incentive, pause your debuffs for certain time when you Intercept, that is like 30% of his problems gone

They won't increase his debilitate number because that would completely remove enchantress as a difficult fight. He's not supposed to be a complete hard counter to get he's supposed to be a really solid option that still requires a little bit of skill

But he was built as a hard counter that the unique thing missing being Anti miss,he was sold as a Enchantress counter as Negasonic Teenager was sold a Bullseye hard counter, the slow at the beginning completly shuts down 2/3 of her speells effects and the debilitate mechanic for exacly her spells , create the disease and sell the cure

He was not presented as a hard counter though

PT_99

Polygon said:

GilbertoJunior said:

Polygon said:

If negasonic didnt get buffed , i doubt he will

She din't needed beaucase of her performance in both War and against all the skill class,even as a defender she was being used regularly, She had a place and was great at something, Joaquim is good in a lot of things but great in nothing besides most Mystical champions

Her damage isn't viable for BGs where time matters for war shes fine yes. Torres getting a buff i can see them having a concern for being too strong of a counter for enchantress basically trivializing her, the same way negasonic wouldve with more damage

My r3 whoops r3 killmongers, korg, atummas under 50 secs at 98% HP, she can be faster even but I don't trust Kebem intercepts these days.

Very worth it to put in deck since she counters whole skill class.

peixemacaco

GilbertoJunior said:

The best i have is a 4 stars but i'm planning to Rank up the 6 star version in second of april when the Featured resets, as low the rarity i can see some issues that others with higher rarities also talked about, his missing Anti Miss even tought he was build as a Heavy Anti enchantress, surprisingly has good damage (His damage is normal but is above average,the thing is that science class got soo much heavy hitters that his damage seems abysmall when compared to others), some buffs could last longer and could have a bit higher potency, his Traumas for example you could increase in 3% and would make a considerable difference, his physical Vulnerability not being avaliable in Beak performance without Awakening kind takes out some damage, his physical ultility could be higher but being semi Buff immune is already good,a immunity to poison of fully buff immune, being able to regen from crit hits from Non skill champions could save you in some cases

Well, Thats it for this week essay and if you have more to add to the aconversation i would like to hear and also form some feedback for Kabam when the Balance programm start working on him and Zola

The Falcon in the room, you might rank him max. He may be buffed with a rebalance as you said.

I do have him as 3 stars, but I want the 6 stars version to use.

Sai brasileiro de tudo quanto é canto haha ... Setembro 2023, novato...

Vai Corinthians

GilbertoJunior

peixemacaco said:

GilbertoJunior said:

The best i have is a 4 stars but i'm planning to Rank up the 6 star version in second of april when the Featured resets, as low the rarity i can see some issues that others with higher rarities also talked about, his missing Anti Miss even tought he was build as a Heavy Anti enchantress, surprisingly has good damage (His damage is normal but is above average,the thing is that science class got soo much heavy hitters that his damage seems abysmall when compared to others), some buffs could last longer and could have a bit higher potency, his Traumas for example you could increase in 3% and would make a considerable difference, his physical Vulnerability not being avaliable in Beak performance without Awakening kind takes out some damage, his physical ultility could be higher but being semi Buff immune is already good,a immunity to poison of fully buff immune, being able to regen from crit hits from Non skill champions could save you in some cases

Well, Thats it for this week essay and if you have more to add to the aconversation i would like to hear and also form some feedback for Kabam when the Balance programm start working on him and Zola

The Falcon in the room, you might rank him max. He may be buffed with a rebalance as you said.

I do have him as 3 stars, but I want the 6 stars version to use.

Sai brasileiro de tudo quanto é canto haha ... Setembro 2023, novato...

Vai Corinthians

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