Just pulled Arnim Zola from the 7 Star feature. I know he's pretty hype but anyone have any tips?

Dr. Crab

I know theres a good deal of hype around him but does anyone know where his big shine spots are as well as any tips and tricks?

ViperOfChampion

Dr. Crab said:

I know theres a good deal of hype around him but does anyone know where his big shine spots are as well as any tips and tricks?

there's a 7* featured?!?!(ik u mean titan just playin)

ViperOfChampion

Dr. Crab said:

I know theres a good deal of hype around him but does anyone know where his big shine spots are as well as any tips and tricks?

BGS and long form content wi/ Mr fantastic debuffs

EdisonLaw

Good BGs defender that can be used on attack, though he’s not the fastest.

xenchief

Step 1: rank
Step 2: throw on D in BG's
Step 3: profit

Folkvangr

Put him in defense and that’s it

ItsClobberinTime

I have a rank 3 but unfortunately he's too risky and hard to use without awakening and high sig so place him on defense and that's it cause he is an insane defender as is. He's had a higher win rate than both Bullseye and Photon on defense for me.

JackTheSnack

He’s a pain on defense

PT_99

I don't think so that he's that big on defence, he literally has only "wifi charges" thing which can be easily get rid by heavy knockdown, all his stuns and funny sleeps are taken out.

That's all what he got and also don't push let him throw sp2 because there's funny unavoidable damage there 🤗

ItsClobberinTime

PT_99 said:

I don't think so that he's that big on defence, he literally has only "wifi charges" thing which can be easily get rid by heavy knockdown, all his stuns and funny sleeps are taken out.

That's all what he got and also don't push let him throw sp2 because there's funny unavoidable damage there 🤗

"That's all he got" lol so I guess you're just gonna ignore the fact that 90% of the champs can't parry to knock him down with heavy in the first place, or have a long enough reach to heavy counter his heavy right? Or were you talking about Arcade who can be both be parried and heavy punished with heavy by literally every champ in game?

Polygon

ItsClobberinTime said:

I have a rank 3 but unfortunately he's too risky and hard to use without awakening and high sig so place him on defense and that's it cause he is an insane defender as is. He's had a higher win rate than both Bullseye and Photon on defense for me.

Hes viable for attack or still slow at high sig? Debating if the sig is that worth putting generics or even techs over other champs like shocker

ItsClobberinTime

Polygon said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I have a rank 3 but unfortunately he's too risky and hard to use without awakening and high sig so place him on defense and that's it cause he is an insane defender as is. He's had a higher win rate than both Bullseye and Photon on defense for me.

Hes viable for attack or still slow at high sig? Debating if the sig is that worth putting generics or even techs over other champs like shocker

Contrary to popular belief I don't think he's slow at all (at least for same rank), his whole rotation takes roughly 45 secs and you only have to bait one special the whole fight if you play him right. Problems are:
1. Without sig 200 he can't punch a full rank above.
2. Stand Your Ground makes using him very risky.
3. You can't stack as many disintegrations on the last heavy before they reach two bars because you have to interrupt your heavy with sp2 instead of letting the full animation play and throwing sp2 while they're getting back up from the ground.

PT_99

ItsClobberinTime said:

PT_99 said:

I don't think so that he's that big on defence, he literally has only "wifi charges" thing which can be easily get rid by heavy knockdown, all his stuns and funny sleeps are taken out.

That's all what he got and also don't push let him throw sp2 because there's funny unavoidable damage there 🤗

"That's all he got" lol so I guess you're just gonna ignore the fact that 90% of the champs can't parry to knock him down with heavy in the first place, or have a long enough reach to heavy counter his heavy right? Or were you talking about Arcade who can be both be parried and heavy punished with heavy by literally every champ in game?

That can be problem if you aren't using combo into heavy chain ability heroes like D-Thanos, Silk, Chavez etc
But you can also heavy him after reparrying or using other heroes who can parry the non-contact.

Just because hero can't be stunned it doesn't make him just hard, on stun immune nodes he can be problematic, that's for sure.

ItsClobberinTime

PT_99 said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

PT_99 said:

I don't think so that he's that big on defence, he literally has only "wifi charges" thing which can be easily get rid by heavy knockdown, all his stuns and funny sleeps are taken out.

That's all what he got and also don't push let him throw sp2 because there's funny unavoidable damage there 🤗

"That's all he got" lol so I guess you're just gonna ignore the fact that 90% of the champs can't parry to knock him down with heavy in the first place, or have a long enough reach to heavy counter his heavy right? Or were you talking about Arcade who can be both be parried and heavy punished with heavy by literally every champ in game?

That can be problem if you aren't using combo into heavy chain ability heroes like D-Thanos, Silk, Chavez etc
But you can also heavy him after reparrying or using other heroes who can parry the non-contact.

Just because hero can't be stunned it doesn't make him just hard, on stun immune nodes he can be problematic, that's for sure.

Same can be said about all defenders, you can't just claim it isn't a problem if you draft a good counter. That doesn't automatically make a defender meh if that was the case Bullseye would've already fallen off too considering how many champs can delete him in under a minute with minimal damage taken.
As for the reparry, I hope you're not suggesting that, waiting for the AI to throw one M and one L and then re-parrying the second L without the AI throwing a single heavy, is a viable way to counter him cause I can guarantee you in BGs you will go over a minute and thirty seconds doing that. He will throw a heavy before getting to that second light attack more often than not.

It's not just about the stun, you're not looking at the bigger picture is what I'm saying.

EdisonLaw

ItsClobberinTime said:

Polygon said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I have a rank 3 but unfortunately he's too risky and hard to use without awakening and high sig so place him on defense and that's it cause he is an insane defender as is. He's had a higher win rate than both Bullseye and Photon on defense for me.

Hes viable for attack or still slow at high sig? Debating if the sig is that worth putting generics or even techs over other champs like shocker

Contrary to popular belief I don't think he's slow at all (at least for same rank), his whole rotation takes roughly 45 secs and you only have to bait one special the whole fight if you play him right. Problems are:
1. Without sig 200 he can't punch a full rank above.
2. Stand Your Ground makes using him very risky.
3. You can't stack as many disintegrations on the last heavy before they reach two bars because you have to interrupt your heavy with sp2 instead of letting the full animation play and throwing sp2 while they're getting back up from the ground.

Also spacing, if the opponent is not in the corner the heavy spam won't work as good, and some defenders aren't as easy to push towards the corner

Darthbane3141

I use him as a defender is BGs, and use him on attack in questing. He's a great dual threat, but he's not a BGs attacker.

ItsClobberinTime

EdisonLaw said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

Polygon said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I have a rank 3 but unfortunately he's too risky and hard to use without awakening and high sig so place him on defense and that's it cause he is an insane defender as is. He's had a higher win rate than both Bullseye and Photon on defense for me.

Hes viable for attack or still slow at high sig? Debating if the sig is that worth putting generics or even techs over other champs like shocker

Contrary to popular belief I don't think he's slow at all (at least for same rank), his whole rotation takes roughly 45 secs and you only have to bait one special the whole fight if you play him right. Problems are:
1. Without sig 200 he can't punch a full rank above.
2. Stand Your Ground makes using him very risky.
3. You can't stack as many disintegrations on the last heavy before they reach two bars because you have to interrupt your heavy with sp2 instead of letting the full animation play and throwing sp2 while they're getting back up from the ground.

Also spacing, if the opponent is not in the corner the heavy spam won't work as good, and some defenders aren't as easy to push towards the corner

That's another thing, he's not a champ that will be easy to use on offense even at sig 200, anyone who's ever used Tigra will tell you how hard it is to master the spacing situation. However, I do think people who call him a meh attacker are wrong and they'll see this when good players actually master him and start to use him properly, he's not on Tigra's level at all but he can finish fights baiting only one sp2 in under 45 secs if you play him properly, once they drop one sp2 or two sp1s and you get them power locked the fight is basically over, this will be very useful for defenders who waste a ton of time with specials like Enchantress and Onslaught.

TotemCorruption

Darthbane3141 said:

I use him as a defender is BGs, and use him on attack in questing. He's a great dual threat, but he's not a BGs attacker.

Yeah, this is how I view him too.
He's a very safe and effective attacker, but his kit isn't built to nuke fights in BG.

ItsClobberinTime

TotemCorruption said:

Darthbane3141 said:

I use him as a defender is BGs, and use him on attack in questing. He's a great dual threat, but he's not a BGs attacker.

Yeah, this is how I view him too.
He's a very safe and effective attacker, but his kit isn't built to nuke fights in BG.

How so? The rotation is sp1 sp2 (same rotation as others like FAM which people consider nukes) and you only have to bait one sp2 or two sp1s the whole fight, once you get them power locked after your sp1 the fight is over.
Now, if your definition of nuke is 25 sec fights like CGR yes that's different, but I doubt we'll get more nukes like that ever again, the game was different back then.

TotemCorruption

ItsClobberinTime said:

TotemCorruption said:

Darthbane3141 said:

I use him as a defender is BGs, and use him on attack in questing. He's a great dual threat, but he's not a BGs attacker.

Yeah, this is how I view him too.
He's a very safe and effective attacker, but his kit isn't built to nuke fights in BG.

How so? The rotation is sp1 sp2 (same rotation as others like FAM which people consider nukes) and you only have to bait one sp2 or two sp1s the whole fight, once you get them power locked after your sp1 the fight is over.
Now, if your definition of nuke is 25 sec fights like CGR yes that's different, but I doubt we'll get more nukes like that ever again, the game was different back then.

You think CGR and FAM are the top two nukes in 2025 BG (disregarding any weird nodes)?
Shocker, DPX, Dazzler, Silk, etc. are all nukes.
I haven't seen FAM used on offense hardly ever. CGR is still top 10 but he's going to keep falling behind as a 6*.

Anyway, Kabam lists Zola as a 5/5 defender and 3/5 damage. That seems accurate based on my experience with him.

ItsClobberinTime

TotemCorruption said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

TotemCorruption said:

Darthbane3141 said:

I use him as a defender is BGs, and use him on attack in questing. He's a great dual threat, but he's not a BGs attacker.

Yeah, this is how I view him too.
He's a very safe and effective attacker, but his kit isn't built to nuke fights in BG.

How so? The rotation is sp1 sp2 (same rotation as others like FAM which people consider nukes) and you only have to bait one sp2 or two sp1s the whole fight, once you get them power locked after your sp1 the fight is over.
Now, if your definition of nuke is 25 sec fights like CGR yes that's different, but I doubt we'll get more nukes like that ever again, the game was different back then.

You think CGR and FAM are the top two nukes in 2025 BG (disregarding any weird nodes)?
Shocker, DPX, Dazzler, Silk, etc. are all nukes.
I haven't seen FAM used on offense hardly ever. CGR is still top 10 but he's going to keep falling behind as a 6*.

Anyway, Kabam lists Zola as a 5/5 defender and 3/5 damage. That seems accurate based on my experience with him.

Show me where exactly I said they're top two nukes and I'll delete my nine year account right now lmfao.

I have Silk as a 7* r3 and I never finish fights in under 35 seconds with her, a 10 second difference really isn't big enough to just scratch off Zola as meh for attack unless of course you're implying any champ that goes over 35 seconds (which is about 80% of the champs in-game) is bad which is factually not true. People are so quick to call any champ that takes 45-50 secs to kill bad yet I still see Celestial players using Negasonic and calling her a top 10 mutant.

TotemCorruption

ItsClobberinTime said:

TotemCorruption said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

TotemCorruption said:

Darthbane3141 said:

I use him as a defender is BGs, and use him on attack in questing. He's a great dual threat, but he's not a BGs attacker.

Yeah, this is how I view him too.
He's a very safe and effective attacker, but his kit isn't built to nuke fights in BG.

How so? The rotation is sp1 sp2 (same rotation as others like FAM which people consider nukes) and you only have to bait one sp2 or two sp1s the whole fight, once you get them power locked after your sp1 the fight is over.
Now, if your definition of nuke is 25 sec fights like CGR yes that's different, but I doubt we'll get more nukes like that ever again, the game was different back then.

You think CGR and FAM are the top two nukes in 2025 BG (disregarding any weird nodes)?
Shocker, DPX, Dazzler, Silk, etc. are all nukes.
I haven't seen FAM used on offense hardly ever. CGR is still top 10 but he's going to keep falling behind as a 6*.

Anyway, Kabam lists Zola as a 5/5 defender and 3/5 damage. That seems accurate based on my experience with him.

Show me where exactly I said they're top two nukes and I'll delete my nine year account right now lmfao.

I have Silk as a 7* r3 and I never finish fights in under 35 seconds with her, a 10 second difference really isn't big enough to just scratch off Zola as meh for attack unless of course you're implying any champ that goes over 35 seconds (which is about 80% of the champs in-game) is bad which is factually not true. People are so quick to call any champ that takes 45-50 secs to kill bad yet I still see Celestial players using Negasonic and calling her a top 10 mutant.

All I said is that he wasn't designed to nuke fights in BG; doesn't mean that at high rank and in the right matchup he can't nuke a fight; a lot of champs can.
You're arguing with me as if I'm PT and called him a "scuffed Kingpin" or whatever type of stuff he says...

ItsClobberinTime

TotemCorruption said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

TotemCorruption said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

TotemCorruption said:

Darthbane3141 said:

I use him as a defender is BGs, and use him on attack in questing. He's a great dual threat, but he's not a BGs attacker.

Yeah, this is how I view him too.
He's a very safe and effective attacker, but his kit isn't built to nuke fights in BG.

How so? The rotation is sp1 sp2 (same rotation as others like FAM which people consider nukes) and you only have to bait one sp2 or two sp1s the whole fight, once you get them power locked after your sp1 the fight is over.
Now, if your definition of nuke is 25 sec fights like CGR yes that's different, but I doubt we'll get more nukes like that ever again, the game was different back then.

You think CGR and FAM are the top two nukes in 2025 BG (disregarding any weird nodes)?
Shocker, DPX, Dazzler, Silk, etc. are all nukes.
I haven't seen FAM used on offense hardly ever. CGR is still top 10 but he's going to keep falling behind as a 6*.

Anyway, Kabam lists Zola as a 5/5 defender and 3/5 damage. That seems accurate based on my experience with him.

Show me where exactly I said they're top two nukes and I'll delete my nine year account right now lmfao.

I have Silk as a 7* r3 and I never finish fights in under 35 seconds with her, a 10 second difference really isn't big enough to just scratch off Zola as meh for attack unless of course you're implying any champ that goes over 35 seconds (which is about 80% of the champs in-game) is bad which is factually not true. People are so quick to call any champ that takes 45-50 secs to kill bad yet I still see Celestial players using Negasonic and calling her a top 10 mutant.

All I said is that he wasn't designed to nuke fights in BG; doesn't mean that at high rank and in the right matchup he can't nuke a fight; a lot of champs can.
You're arguing with me as if I'm PT and called him a "scuffed Kingpin" or whatever type of stuff he says...

I mean you can't blame me, you replied with "yes this is how I view him too" to someone who literally said and I quote "he's not a BGs attacker" lol he is, you just have to get him to max sig and learn spacing.

captain_rogers

His utility is amazing I'll say. Sp1 lock against a enchantress in war, and throw in a invulnerable boost. Her sp2 is locked as well. If you have max collar tech as well, you can cheese Midchantress.

This is only a theory though, but there's no reason this doesn't work.

ItsClobberinTime

captain_rogers said:

His utility is amazing I'll say. Sp1 lock against a enchantress in war, and throw in a invulnerable boost. Her sp2 is locked as well. If you have max collar tech as well, you can cheese Midchantress.

This is only a theory though, but there's no reason this doesn't work.

This is actually one of the main reasons I think he will be very good once people start getting him more and using him more, he should be one of the best Enchantress counters on paper. You bait one sp1 throw yours and now she's completely power locked until she hits three bars.

Average_Desi

PT_99 said:

I don't think so that he's that big on defence, he literally has only "wifi charges" thing which can be easily get rid by heavy knockdown, all his stuns and funny sleeps are taken out.

That's all what he got and also don't push let him throw sp2 because there's funny unavoidable damage there 🤗

90% cowardice

ItsClobberinTime

Average_Desi said:

PT_99 said:

I don't think so that he's that big on defence, he literally has only "wifi charges" thing which can be easily get rid by heavy knockdown, all his stuns and funny sleeps are taken out.

That's all what he got and also don't push let him throw sp2 because there's funny unavoidable damage there 🤗

90% cowardice

+ -80% crit penetration + can't lose more than 10% in a single hit, I don't think he has actually faced any Zolas in BGs yet. I've no idea how exactly he plans on winning a BGs match by wasting time attempting to reparry his second light with this horrible unpredictable AI when Zola is already extremely tanky, all this in under a minute, good luck to him I guess.

Kingering_King

I pulled him too, I have no idea how to play him and took him to r3. He’s an insane defender, never looses, supposedly a good attacker. I don’t know though, cause I still can’t play him😭😭