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  • MouserCheese96MouserCheese96 Member Posts: 71
    NONYABIZZ said:

    Serpent is THE option in a real endgame content. If I didn't have him for a Carina's and Epoch, I would have used WAY more revives. I didn't even look at other options available and this was also never having played Serpent before the Carina's challenge.

    Sinister is just amazing. Minimal hits, but heavy damage, degen (which hardly anyone is immune to), plus other abilities that, while not his main focus, are very handy. He's always on my questing team, and I rarely even read nodes when he's on the team.

    or is this just a troll post? Because if it is, you got me good.
    I will start to use my serpent
    Don't back down now, cmon stand on it.
    This was entertaining 😂
    I retract my statement because I forgot about very long content that sweaty people get to.
  • MouserCheese96MouserCheese96 Member Posts: 71
    Markjv81 said:

    I don’t have What Even in any rarity.

    What does this even mean
  • Java_JunkieJava_Junkie Member Posts: 825 ★★★
    @MouserCheese96 not even going to jump on the dog pile here…

    but WILL add, from my own experience; if like EVERYONE says champX is amazing, I usually do a little research (here, YT damage/ rotation vids), and test out a lower rarity version until I can see WHY someone said that.

    100%, after this, there are some champs I just don’t like.(Tigra, not my bag)
    100%, I have also gone “OH. yeah, I totally missed that.” (Prowler, I can make him DO WORK!)
    play outside your comfort zone, it makes us better in the long run.
  • MouserCheese96MouserCheese96 Member Posts: 71

    This was painful to read. I’m not gonna try and educate you on how wrong you are, @Furrymoosen handled that perfectly. Not every champ is parry 5 hit combo throw special, win game. Many of those champs require a small adjustment to your play style, and you will do great with them. But please, do some more research before spouting nonsense, you might actually get a newer player to think these champs are bad when they are some of the best in the game

    I'm sorry TheUglyone123. On the bright side, I don't use 5 hit combo on Prowler because I know I have to save my falter debuff.
  • TheUglyone123TheUglyone123 Member Posts: 722 ★★★★
    edited June 4

    Long time ago there was a dude on here whose favorite champion was Iron Patriot, and he would bless us with gloriously unhinged posts about how much better IP was compared to the meta champs of the time.

    “Prowler is ass” reminded me of that dude.

    Ok I was tweaking like half of that post but Prowler is seriously questionable a top champ, and I'm being for real. Especially when he isn't awakened. This guy hits like a noodle, and aside from the power lock and few immunities he can't do anything special. Like I can see how he's decent in certain scenarios, but for the most pat he's just super underwhelming. I may possibly have been wrong about Kate Bishop, Serpent, and Mr. Sinister, but Prowler is genuinely a poser.
    Again, this is just wrong. His rupture bursts after applying an incinerate is absolutely bonkers damage. And he has so much utility through damage over time, no crit, power control, and his falter mechanic.

    Actually, matter of fact, please tell me you are using your heavy attack when they are at 0 power?

    I agree, he is much better post-awakening, but he is still great regardless
    What benefit does no crit provide? Yes, I have been heavying at 0 power because I watched Spectral 282's tutorial on YouTube, but the power lock is for like 4 seconds fam. What sort of content do you typically use Prowler in, and how do you maximize Prowler's unawakened damage?
    Many champs defensive abilities or nodes trigger once you crit against them. Or champs like sentinel reduce crit damage from all champs. Prowler not relying on crit bypasses all of those.

    Secondly, You can use your heavy to intercept the opponent after their special. This won’t work in every match up. But getting a parry off after their special is not hard.

    I use prowler everywhere. War, BGs, and all questing. I even liked him so much, I ranked him up to R3 unawakened. He answers so many problems even pre-awakening, so when I got him awakened, he’s even better.

    You max his damage by pushing them to 1.9 or 2.9 bars of power and then let them throw their special, that will build up your charges, then build up a SP2, drop it, and watch the health bars melt
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 4,043 ★★★★★

    Long time ago there was a dude on here whose favorite champion was Iron Patriot, and he would bless us with gloriously unhinged posts about how much better IP was compared to the meta champs of the time.

    “Prowler is ass” reminded me of that dude.

    Ok I was tweaking like half of that post but Prowler is seriously questionable a top champ, and I'm being for real. Especially when he isn't awakened. This guy hits like a noodle, and aside from the power lock and few immunities he can't do anything special. Like I can see how he's decent in certain scenarios, but for the most pat he's just super underwhelming. I may possibly have been wrong about Kate Bishop, Serpent, and Mr. Sinister, but Prowler is genuinely a poser.
    Again, this is just wrong. His rupture bursts after applying an incinerate is absolutely bonkers damage. And he has so much utility through damage over time, no crit, power control, and his falter mechanic.

    Actually, matter of fact, please tell me you are using your heavy attack when they are at 0 power?

    I agree, he is much better post-awakening, but he is still great regardless
    What benefit does no crit provide? Yes, I have been heavying at 0 power because I watched Spectral 282's tutorial on YouTube, but the power lock is for like 4 seconds fam. What sort of content do you typically use Prowler in, and how do you maximize Prowler's unawakened damage?
    There are champs that punish crits

    The power lock drains the opponent to zero power regardless of how much power they had which is insanely useful

    Prowler can be used anywhere, he’s a great mutant killer in BGs and he works the same in questing. You could even use the sp3 to gain more furies in that sorta content. You do want the awakened ability because it gives him more crit rating

    His damage is fantastic when he’s sig 200, it’s alright when he’s not. I use him to nuke BG opponents all the time
  • MouserCheese96MouserCheese96 Member Posts: 71

    Long time ago there was a dude on here whose favorite champion was Iron Patriot, and he would bless us with gloriously unhinged posts about how much better IP was compared to the meta champs of the time.

    “Prowler is ass” reminded me of that dude.

    Ok I was tweaking like half of that post but Prowler is seriously questionable a top champ, and I'm being for real. Especially when he isn't awakened. This guy hits like a noodle, and aside from the power lock and few immunities he can't do anything special. Like I can see how he's decent in certain scenarios, but for the most pat he's just super underwhelming. I may possibly have been wrong about Kate Bishop, Serpent, and Mr. Sinister, but Prowler is genuinely a poser.
    Again, this is just wrong. His rupture bursts after applying an incinerate is absolutely bonkers damage. And he has so much utility through damage over time, no crit, power control, and his falter mechanic.

    Actually, matter of fact, please tell me you are using your heavy attack when they are at 0 power?

    I agree, he is much better post-awakening, but he is still great regardless
    What benefit does no crit provide? Yes, I have been heavying at 0 power because I watched Spectral 282's tutorial on YouTube, but the power lock is for like 4 seconds fam. What sort of content do you typically use Prowler in, and how do you maximize Prowler's unawakened damage?
    Many champs defensive abilities or nodes trigger once you crit against them. Or champs like sentinel reduce crit damage from all champs. Prowler not relying on crit bypasses all of those.

    Secondly, You can use your heavy to intercept the opponent after their special. This won’t work in every match up. But getting a parry off after their special is not hard.

    I use prowler everywhere. War, BGs, and all questing. I even liked him so much, I ranked him up to R3 unawakened. He answers so many problems even pre-awakening, so when I got him awakened, he’s even better.

    You max his damage by pushing them to 1.9 or 2.9 bars of power and then let them throw their special, that will build up your charges, then build up a SP2, drop it, and watch the health bars melt
    Every time I get for the Sp2 at 1.9 bars, I get like 4 or 5 ruptures, while MCOC youtubers have like 8. Do you medium medium falter straight into special 2, or do you combo again into the falter and then throw sp2?
  • MouserCheese96MouserCheese96 Member Posts: 71

    @MouserCheese96 not even going to jump on the dog pile here…

    but WILL add, from my own experience; if like EVERYONE says champX is amazing, I usually do a little research (here, YT damage/ rotation vids), and test out a lower rarity version until I can see WHY someone said that.

    100%, after this, there are some champs I just don’t like.(Tigra, not my bag)
    100%, I have also gone “OH. yeah, I totally missed that.” (Prowler, I can make him DO WORK!)
    play outside your comfort zone, it makes us better in the long run.

    Ok. Maybe prowler just isn't my cup of tea. It's a shame I have a 7* version of him, so I guess I'll keep trying.
  • TheUglyone123TheUglyone123 Member Posts: 722 ★★★★
    My goal is to have a falter on every time I throw a sp2. And I want that falter to have as much up time as possible, so as soon as the falter is on, I throw a sp2
  • MouserCheese96MouserCheese96 Member Posts: 71

    My goal is to have a falter on every time I throw a sp2. And I want that falter to have as much up time as possible, so as soon as the falter is on, I throw a sp2

    Ok, thanks. I will try this in Realm of Legends.
  • TheUglyone123TheUglyone123 Member Posts: 722 ★★★★
    edited June 4

    @MouserCheese96 not even going to jump on the dog pile here…

    but WILL add, from my own experience; if like EVERYONE says champX is amazing, I usually do a little research (here, YT damage/ rotation vids), and test out a lower rarity version until I can see WHY someone said that.

    100%, after this, there are some champs I just don’t like.(Tigra, not my bag)
    100%, I have also gone “OH. yeah, I totally missed that.” (Prowler, I can make him DO WORK!)
    play outside your comfort zone, it makes us better in the long run.

    Ok. Maybe prowler just isn't my cup of tea. It's a shame I have a 7* version of him, so I guess I'll keep trying.
    And that’s totally fine, not every meta champ has to be your cup of tea, but that doesn’t mean they are trash or not good, like you said at the beginning, and doubled down on later. It’s best to be objective about these kind of things. For example, I cannot stand playing long shot, I dislike nearly everything about him. However, I can acknowledge that he is a great champ, just far and away not for me
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,592 ★★★★★
    edited June 4
    My bad, it was actually Reddit. Hall of fame user name for OP, too.






  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 1,054 ★★★★
    "Bonkers damage" and its just 50k burst damage 😂😂. That's around the same burst damage zola did when he first came out and alot of yall said his damage was underwhelming.

    I need that rank down ticket, something aches within me that will never be satisfied until I rank him down 😭😭.
    He's in my top 4 champ and profile with 161 sigs invested that I regret. Kabam could sell rank down tickets for banquet and I genuinely would buy just for prowler.

    The last time I used prowler was in epoch tech/science path against onslaught (keep in mind, I did epoch about 2 weeks after it came out). And out of those times, I can not recall 3 times I've ever needed a prowler or ever been satisfied with his performance. I have never used prowler up to 5 times in battlegrounds and he's in my deck (for some reason) 😭
    I personally don't know how he's survived this long with him bringing zero value to my BG roster.

    He'll get his uses here and there when I need a falter immune or someone who doesn't crit however, that'll only happen unless shocker can't already handle the problem.
    If its a questing or epoch scenario a r2 prowler would be enough. If I could rank down I'd keep him at r2. I usually leave champs who i deem are "situationally" useful at r2 eg iron heart, Lady d to name a few and that's where I'd put him cos as of now, my r2's get used more than him at r3.
  • TheUglyone123TheUglyone123 Member Posts: 722 ★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    "Bonkers damage" and its just 50k burst damage 😂😂. That's around the same burst damage zola did when he first came out and alot of yall said his damage was underwhelming.

    I need that rank down ticket, something aches within me that will never be satisfied until I rank him down 😭😭.
    He's in my top 4 champ and profile with 161 sigs invested that I regret. Kabam could sell rank down tickets for banquet and I genuinely would buy just for prowler.

    The last time I used prowler was in epoch tech/science path against onslaught (keep in mind, I did epoch about 2 weeks after it came out). And out of those times, I can not recall 3 times I've ever needed a prowler or ever been satisfied with his performance. I have never used prowler up to 5 times in battlegrounds and he's in my deck (for some reason) 😭
    I personally don't know how he's survived this long with him bringing zero value to my BG roster.

    He'll get his uses here and there when I need a falter immune or someone who doesn't crit however, that'll only happen unless shocker can't already handle the problem.
    If its a questing or epoch scenario a r2 prowler would be enough. If I could rank down I'd keep him at r2. I usually leave champs who i deem are "situationally" useful at r2 eg iron heart, Lady d to name a few and that's where I'd put him cos as of now, my r2's get used more than him at r3.

    Someone’s malding. Hey, if you don’t like him, you don’t have to play him, and that’s fine. His damage potential is much better than just “50k burst damage.” End of the day, your account your call, but he is much better than you give him credit for.
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