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PLEASE nerf/change wof Kabam!

Oliver345781Oliver345781 Member Posts: 276 ★★
Everyone has already pointed out all the ways in which this content is absolute garbage but seriously, this is just bad. It is WAY too restrictive and only a VERY small number of valiants can do this. All other endgame content i can think off have had some way in which you can get around it even as a lower lvl player but this you can't. You HAVE to have all the right champions for it. For example the gorr in the 2nd quest is INSANELY restricted. The pool of champions is already small and the only 4 that are actually even somewhat usable for it are aarkus, void, wong and mr negative and 2 of those are in the loyalty crystal which not a lot people can get their hands on very easily. And that roadblocks the entire quest because you don't have one of those 4 champions to get past gorr's healing. Right now I can't progress through the rest because I don't have one of those 4. The rest of the fights actually look pretty easy for my roster and i have already planned out how I'm gonna do them but I can't even get there because the first fight has SO few counters that it doesn't even allow you to progress even when I have quite a big roster. And even then most people don't even have the right champions for the other fights. I'm in a situation where I have a solution to every fight but I cannot even do it because of these stupid and unnecessary restrictions on the very first fight.

I have been LOVING all this new endgame content in the past few months. Epoch was a TON of fun and ordeal was very fun as well, but this is the first time EVER where I seriously feel like this is not fun and/or well designed. So PLEASE Kabam. For once LISTEN to the playerbase and change wof to be a little bit easier. I think that the best change would be making 6*s allowed in it or at the very least make the tags less restrictive. Im just one of many many many MANY players who are critizing this but I'm here to share that opinion from the playerbase forward to you, Kabam.
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  • MontycarloMontycarlo Member Posts: 126 ★★
    There was absolutely ABSOLUTELY no need of gates in 1st quest itself Like come on R U kidding me all of this hell for what 5k titan shards 5k 7* shards and a catalyst like what a joke way to ruin an entire piece of content like that. REMOVE GATES from 1st quest and then add more champs to next quest and then maybe maybe leave the last quest as is. It's just horrible content design add on the fact when KARATEMIKE on stream on stream said we can select any champ out of 12 but now we can't select torch. This is truly a scam. We were told something had our hopes up but now completely crushed left right and center. Very bad L.
  • ariebrklariebrkl Member Posts: 47
    Rewards are very bad for the first quest
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 1,281 ★★★★

    Don't nerf it, I might consider doing if they neef it. I am fine with my decision to pass on it.

    There’s better things to do than that loop of defenders 😂
  • benshbbenshb Member Posts: 944 ★★★★★
    edited June 12
    Those very small number of valiants who can do this should be in a new progression, and tailored towards them. It's just crazy to call the same valiant someone who has done every content and sitting on 3+ 7r4 and 30+ 7r3, and someone who just became valiant with 2-4 7r3.
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 3,264 ★★★★★
    I have no problem with the content itself. I think it's fine.

    What I do have a problem with is putting down the hard to do the content for next-to-no rewards. The whole 3-chapter quest contains the same amount of r4 resources as freaking 9.2 did and then a crystal where I have 9 out of the 10 champions in it. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome crystal with an amazing selection of champions. However, if you're requiring players to have an insane roster for the content you're presenting them with, chances are that most people who can actually do it will most likely have most of those champions. I get that putting in a lot of 2025 defenders that most people haven't had the time to get to know yet would have presented its own challenges, but it certainly would have spruced up the champion pool if we could have had some new ones in there and not just old(ish) ones.

    I do like that they added a Titan Nexus choice to it, but for me, that's basically the choice in the crystal for me.

    Just imagine what would have happened if they'd done something similar to the CCP challenges last year where we got to choose our champion out of an exclusive pool of champions? I'm not saying that they should have put the Heart of Fire selector in there, but just something along those lines? Even if they didn't fill it with the bangiest of the banging bangers out there in not-yet-a-7* land, I think just a selection of exclusive champions would have been much more appealing to a lot of folks who already own most of those champs.
  • HalleyHalley Member Posts: 694 ★★★
    Open the gate, allow any champs from 6*
    Or buff rewards
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,572 ★★★★★
    It's really just as easy as letting us use 6*, that's really it. It's not like letting us use 6* would break anything either if anything they would make more money from Paragons buying potion bundles and units to plow through. The hps are way too huge for 6* to do the content easily with low effort and unit investment, but at least Paragons and Valiants who don't have all the options would have a chance to do it instead of having to wait for who know how many months until they actually pull what they need from a crystal.
  • KillswitchmitchKillswitchmitch Member Posts: 30
    Not an ounce of fun or relevant rewards. Seems like a winning recipe. How isn’t everyone loving this content?! 🙄
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  • LioLennLioLenn Member Posts: 23
    They should update the rewards, every other game rewards playing it more than actually selling it. What is the point of making a game where you can actually just buy your way up.

    If you sell things, let have those who buy it have an advantage over a f2p player, i agree with that. But the last years they just send out deals that are just crazy. Back in the day when they didn't do all this ****, you could farm revives, you'd watch some seatin streams to learn, that where the days. Those guys spend a lot on crystals, but it was reasonable to some lvl. Now it is just bs.
  • benshbbenshb Member Posts: 944 ★★★★★

    Dont ask for nerf.
    Never.

    Always ask for rewards buff.
    Buff buff buff

    30 minute fights and you say don’t nerf? How much free time do you have to be saying that lmao
    I, for someone who has finished virtually all permanent content (carina vol1 lol challenges remaining), am happy for some content which is not done in a flash.
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    Which is still not true because only 3 opponent remaining from the entire WoF. But you get the point.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,734 ★★★★★

    Dont ask for nerf.
    Never.

    Always ask for rewards buff.
    Buff buff buff

    30 minute fights and you say don’t nerf? How much free time do you have to be saying that lmao
    It's hard content. Also, are you using R1 champs? There's no reason for the fights to take 30 minutes
  • smy168smy168 Member Posts: 263 ★★★
    I'm going to do WoF, I'm an end-game player with a decently deep roster, not overly thrilled with the rewards, which as some already said are the same as 9.2(weird)

    I take some issue with the gates but they will not being opening it up to 6*s now that people have already completed or started their runs, they would have to think about compensation and Kabam is kinda allergic to that haha. maybe expanding the #s a little...not enough to disrupt but just enough where it won't bother the people that already made their runs.

    They really should have reviewed the rewards, I'm not sure where they could plug the hole but it should be better than 9.2.

    This won't kill the game for me, and as for HT being behind a pay-wall, that should be expected, anyone bi&%^ing about that need to take a pill, there will be other chances later to "buy" him. Monetization needs to be balanced, Kabam hasn't found that sweet spot yet so they lean toward revenue.

    My thoughts on WoF....save the anger, don't stress over not liking it, just don't do it, its perm content anyways....letting it drive a knife in your heart is a waste of energy. People complain in their YT vids, now seem to have a change of heart and completing it (for whatever reason or influence....kinda tells ya, a lot of those vids you watch and the people creating it have their own motives...not all of them...but most.

    Save that energy for something good in life, don't waste it on anger over a mobile game.

    Peace Fellas

  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,282 ★★★★


    MCOC players after looking at Wheel of Fate rewards and restrictions
  • The_leviathan_xThe_leviathan_x Member Posts: 48
    They should just allow people to use their 6stars,simple fix
    They can buff rewards by a little to moderate amount and that's it
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,282 ★★★★
    Aspirational means something different at Kabam
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 23,340 ★★★★★

    Not an ounce of fun or relevant rewards. Seems like a winning recipe. How isn’t everyone loving this content?! 🙄

    What is your definition of relevant rewards? It's obviously not the AG crystal or the R4 you can get from it. Not the titan crystal and shards either probably so aside from the 3 rarest things in the game, what is relevant?
  • ChiefGoatChiefGoat Member Posts: 264 ★★
    They should include having WoF 100% complete be one of the objectives to reach the next progression level
  • FolkvangrFolkvangr Member Posts: 358 ★★★

    Everyone has already pointed out all the ways in which this content is absolute garbage but seriously, this is just bad. It is WAY too restrictive and only a VERY small number of valiants can do this. All other endgame content i can think off have had some way in which you can get around it even as a lower lvl player but this you can't. You HAVE to have all the right champions for it. For example the gorr in the 2nd quest is INSANELY restricted. The pool of champions is already small and the only 4 that are actually even somewhat usable for it are aarkus, void, wong and mr negative and 2 of those are in the loyalty crystal which not a lot people can get their hands on very easily. And that roadblocks the entire quest because you don't have one of those 4 champions to get past gorr's healing. Right now I can't progress through the rest because I don't have one of those 4. The rest of the fights actually look pretty easy for my roster and i have already planned out how I'm gonna do them but I can't even get there because the first fight has SO few counters that it doesn't even allow you to progress even when I have quite a big roster. And even then most people don't even have the right champions for the other fights. I'm in a situation where I have a solution to every fight but I cannot even do it because of these stupid and unnecessary restrictions on the very first fight.

    I have been LOVING all this new endgame content in the past few months. Epoch was a TON of fun and ordeal was very fun as well, but this is the first time EVER where I seriously feel like this is not fun and/or well designed. So PLEASE Kabam. For once LISTEN to the playerbase and change wof to be a little bit easier. I think that the best change would be making 6*s allowed in it or at the very least make the tags less restrictive. Im just one of many many many MANY players who are critizing this but I'm here to share that opinion from the playerbase forward to you, Kabam.

    Nah
    Apparently the 10 players they made this content for are happy with it, so it’s a W for kabam
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,626 ★★★★★
    Folkvangr said:

    Everyone has already pointed out all the ways in which this content is absolute garbage but seriously, this is just bad. It is WAY too restrictive and only a VERY small number of valiants can do this. All other endgame content i can think off have had some way in which you can get around it even as a lower lvl player but this you can't. You HAVE to have all the right champions for it. For example the gorr in the 2nd quest is INSANELY restricted. The pool of champions is already small and the only 4 that are actually even somewhat usable for it are aarkus, void, wong and mr negative and 2 of those are in the loyalty crystal which not a lot people can get their hands on very easily. And that roadblocks the entire quest because you don't have one of those 4 champions to get past gorr's healing. Right now I can't progress through the rest because I don't have one of those 4. The rest of the fights actually look pretty easy for my roster and i have already planned out how I'm gonna do them but I can't even get there because the first fight has SO few counters that it doesn't even allow you to progress even when I have quite a big roster. And even then most people don't even have the right champions for the other fights. I'm in a situation where I have a solution to every fight but I cannot even do it because of these stupid and unnecessary restrictions on the very first fight.

    I have been LOVING all this new endgame content in the past few months. Epoch was a TON of fun and ordeal was very fun as well, but this is the first time EVER where I seriously feel like this is not fun and/or well designed. So PLEASE Kabam. For once LISTEN to the playerbase and change wof to be a little bit easier. I think that the best change would be making 6*s allowed in it or at the very least make the tags less restrictive. Im just one of many many many MANY players who are critizing this but I'm here to share that opinion from the playerbase forward to you, Kabam.

    Nah
    Apparently the 10 players they made this content for are happy with it, so it’s a W for kabam
    Not exactly, but yes.
    Some content isn't going to make all people happy. They've commented that they have no plans to change it at this time.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,976 ★★★★★
    Folkvangr said:

    Everyone has already pointed out all the ways in which this content is absolute garbage but seriously, this is just bad. It is WAY too restrictive and only a VERY small number of valiants can do this. All other endgame content i can think off have had some way in which you can get around it even as a lower lvl player but this you can't. You HAVE to have all the right champions for it. For example the gorr in the 2nd quest is INSANELY restricted. The pool of champions is already small and the only 4 that are actually even somewhat usable for it are aarkus, void, wong and mr negative and 2 of those are in the loyalty crystal which not a lot people can get their hands on very easily. And that roadblocks the entire quest because you don't have one of those 4 champions to get past gorr's healing. Right now I can't progress through the rest because I don't have one of those 4. The rest of the fights actually look pretty easy for my roster and i have already planned out how I'm gonna do them but I can't even get there because the first fight has SO few counters that it doesn't even allow you to progress even when I have quite a big roster. And even then most people don't even have the right champions for the other fights. I'm in a situation where I have a solution to every fight but I cannot even do it because of these stupid and unnecessary restrictions on the very first fight.

    I have been LOVING all this new endgame content in the past few months. Epoch was a TON of fun and ordeal was very fun as well, but this is the first time EVER where I seriously feel like this is not fun and/or well designed. So PLEASE Kabam. For once LISTEN to the playerbase and change wof to be a little bit easier. I think that the best change would be making 6*s allowed in it or at the very least make the tags less restrictive. Im just one of many many many MANY players who are critizing this but I'm here to share that opinion from the playerbase forward to you, Kabam.

    Nah
    Apparently the 10 players they made this content for are happy with it, so it’s a W for kabam
    10 players appreciates the W. Thwanks
  • KillerMKillerM Member Posts: 249 ★★★
    It just stupid that you must do quest 1 first to reach quest 2 i dont need the rewards from quest 1 only from quest 2 atleast and i’m done the comparison in rewards from quest 1 and 2 are to big
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,734 ★★★★★
    KillerM said:

    It just stupid that you must do quest 1 first to reach quest 2 i dont need the rewards from quest 1 only from quest 2 atleast and i’m done the comparison in rewards from quest 1 and 2 are to big

    Of all the things people complain about
  • UltragamerUltragamer Member Posts: 625 ★★★
    Just expand your roster it’s not that hard the fights are really easy just gotta rank the counters or use the r1s/r2s
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 802 ★★★★

    Just expand your roster it’s not that hard the fights are really easy just gotta rank the counters or use the r1s/r2s

    Roster expand in Games like this is not that Easy, all is RNG, You can do it faster or do it in months because of pulls
  • UltragamerUltragamer Member Posts: 625 ★★★

    Just expand your roster it’s not that hard the fights are really easy just gotta rank the counters or use the r1s/r2s

    Roster expand in Games like this is not that Easy, all is RNG, You can do it faster or do it in months because of pulls
    It may take awhile but it’s not hard to expand your roster push bgs war and aq and you’ll get it quick now with radiance. Luck still involved but most end game players have every thing they need except one to two champs for it most just don’t want to use the counters they are given
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