Atleast Update the rewards of WOF

Jonasatlan

For the time and the hard Concept we are getting almost the Most usuless rewards. Not a Single sig Stone, not a Single Basic catalyst for normal Rank ups. And only one Champ After Finishing it all. Atleast give us the champ selector and the Titan Nexus or something like this so the work is atleast worth it

startropics

yeah, the lack sig stones is surprisingly bad.

maybe i'm overthinking this, but content is designed for different purposes. some things push basic rewards, others push progression for something greater.

for example. necro gave the first r3s and the valiant title and they released it weeks before cyber monday offers. what was the purpose of necro? it wasn't immediate rewards per se, but it pushed players to do something...to get the new title and cyber offers that were tied to it and unlocking a new daily crystal and if i remember right, if players missed that chance, their next chance at a r3/valiant would have been 6 months later so in april 2024. that's a long wait.

what's the purpose of WOF? just a guess, but it's rewards are kind of bare bones in a way. like you said, no sig stones. some end gamers already have 5-6 r4s, so while another is still very valuable, these rewards are much more important for up and comers, especially with the selector crystal, which is letting them catch up

this tells me that while this quest is marketed to endgamers and only endgamers are mostly able to clear it, it's main intention is to motivate progressing players to grow their rosters so they can one day clear it.

LordSmasher

Open it up to 6 stars!!

startropics

LordSmasher said:

Open it up to 6 stars!!

they can't. letting players use old stuff creates a bigger divide between top accounts and progressing ones.

and if players could use 6*s, they'd run into a brick wall, complain, never run that content again, or just quit the game.

gated content protects players and the game.

altavista

startropics said:

what's the purpose of WOF? just a guess, but it's rewards are kind of bare bones in a way. like you said, no sig stones. some end gamers already have 5-6 r4s, so while another is still very valuable, these rewards are much more important for up and comers, especially with the selector crystal, which is letting them catch up

this tells me that while this quest is marketed to endgamers and only endgamers are mostly able to clear it, it's main intention is to motivate progressing players to grow their rosters so they can one day clear it.

I currently have 2 7R4. I could take up another with a class stone, but it serves no purpose to me. There is no new Progression Title that provides a motivation to have more 7R4. There is no content where one additional 7R4 makes a difference (most Endgame design encourages having a wide variety of champions at 7R2-7R3 as opposed to a few at 7R4). The only content where number of 7R4 is valuable is BGs at the high end, so that means it doesn't matter as much to progressing players.

So even for Progressing players, offering T7b to be able to R4 another champion doesn't seem to be enough of a carrot now when my roster isn't quite equipped to complete it, and it definitely won't be a carrot in the future once my roster is equipped.

Wolf911

What they should do is add exploration rewards

2 x 7 star 1-2 generic
1 x 7 star 2-3 crystal
1 x 7 star 2-3 generic

or the corresponding catalysts to make the grind worth.

Wozzle007

Wolf911 said:

What they should do is add exploration rewards

2 x 7 star 1-2 generic
1 x 7 star 2-3 crystal
1 x 7 star 2-3 generic

or the corresponding catalysts to make the grind worth.

Add to that:
Quest 1: 50x 7* sig stone crystals
Quest 2: 50 generic 7* Sig Stones
Quest 3: 100 generic 7* Sig Stones

willrun4adonut

Wozzle007 said:

Wolf911 said:

What they should do is add exploration rewards

2 x 7 star 1-2 generic
1 x 7 star 2-3 crystal
1 x 7 star 2-3 generic

or the corresponding catalysts to make the grind worth.

Add to that:
Quest 1: 50x 7* sig stone crystals
Quest 2: 50 generic 7* Sig Stones
Quest 3: 100 generic 7* Sig Stones

Add to that:
Refined XP

Herbal_Taxman

Adding an exclusive champ (someone good) would be the best way to keep it relevant for longer.

JESUSCHRIST

No XP for difficult content is hard to understand for players

Even XP comes under reward budget

EBG78

Each quest should get a 1-2 or 2-3 generic rank up gem due to the crazy champion restrictions. Also include sigs and refined XP. As they stand, the rewards will essentially be outdated in a few weeks (July 4th sales) to a few months. So if you aren't going to 100% WoF in the first month or two, it just won't be worth it to ever do it.

SirGamesBond

I will not support nerf threads.
But asking for rewards buff is absolutely fair.

BattleWarriar

WorstNightmare777 said:

LordSmasher said:

Open it up to 6 stars!!

6 stars are outdated you won’t be able to do much with them in that event even if they were allowed

6 stars could definitely do this content. I've used several R1 7 stars to solo fights in WoF. A maxed out 6 star would help a lot of smaller rosters.

Searmenis

No, don't update anything. Those who chose to do it, they did knowing the rewards are mediocre at best. The rest of us, we need a break. It s not a "must do" content, the rewards don't have a piece of something we are chasing, no light essence, no points towards an exclusive champ or something like a deathless piece.
You want to challenge yourself? Do it, actually, you will anyways. Don't force the rest of high valiant players to play this sloppy and rushed designed quest.
Plus, the rewards are not the actual problem here, but the quest s design. If players start accepting content like this just Because the rewards are good, the fun in the game, what s left of it anyway, will die completely.

TotemCorruption

WorstNightmare777 said:

LordSmasher said:

Open it up to 6 stars!!

6 stars are outdated you won’t be able to do much with them in that event even if they were allowed

No 6 stars is literally the main thing that makes this content difficult or impossible for most people.

Abspain101

Searmenis said:

No, don't update anything. Those who chose to do it, they did knowing the rewards are mediocre at best. The rest of us, we need a break. It s not a "must do" content, the rewards don't have a piece of something we are chasing, no light essence, no points towards an exclusive champ or something like a deathless piece.
You want to challenge yourself? Do it, actually, you will anyways. Don't force the rest of high valiant players to play this sloppy and rushed designed quest.
Plus, the rewards are not the actual problem here, but the quest s design. If players start accepting content like this just Because the rewards are good, the fun in the game, what s left of it anyway, will die completely.

You say no deathless piece available there is litterally a deathless piece selector in the 10 champion selector if you dont want any of those champions

Joker1976

Kabam probably made the rewards as such knowing that the “majority “ wouldn’t have deep enough rosters to do it.
Imagine the outrage if rewards were so good but were excluded to the majority of players that don’t have the champions to do this quest?
Rewards are fine and as they should be imo.

GroundedWisdom

TotemCorruption said:

WorstNightmare777 said:

LordSmasher said:

Open it up to 6 stars!!

6 stars are outdated you won’t be able to do much with them in that event even if they were allowed

No 6 stars is literally the main thing that makes this content difficult or impossible for most people.

Actually, people would likely have a much more difficult time with their 6*s than mediocre 7*s. The only 6* I even have in my Roster on a regular basis is Hulkling, and he's a beast still. Maybe Elsa as well, as my 7* isn't Ranked.

TotemCorruption

GroundedWisdom said:

TotemCorruption said:

WorstNightmare777 said:

LordSmasher said:

Open it up to 6 stars!!

6 stars are outdated you won’t be able to do much with them in that event even if they were allowed

No 6 stars is literally the main thing that makes this content difficult or impossible for most people.

Actually, people would likely have a much more difficult time with their 6*s than mediocre 7*s. The only 6* I even have in my Roster on a regular basis is Hulkling, and he's a beast still. Maybe Elsa as well, as my 7* isn't Ranked.

I don't think so. Half of these fights I've been using 7R1s, so max 6s or even close to max 6s would be as good or better.
Also, it would allow people to use the best counters.
A 6* Void is a better option for Gorr than most of the other allowed 7* options. I used a 7R1 Void. My max 6 Void would've done that fight even faster.
Same with Sinister for Bullseye. A 6* Sinister is the best option for that fight after 7* Sinister.
There are more examples I can list.

Searmenis

Abspain101 said:

Searmenis said:

No, don't update anything. Those who chose to do it, they did knowing the rewards are mediocre at best. The rest of us, we need a break. It s not a "must do" content, the rewards don't have a piece of something we are chasing, no light essence, no points towards an exclusive champ or something like a deathless piece.
You want to challenge yourself? Do it, actually, you will anyways. Don't force the rest of high valiant players to play this sloppy and rushed designed quest.
Plus, the rewards are not the actual problem here, but the quest s design. If players start accepting content like this just Because the rewards are good, the fun in the game, what s left of it anyway, will die completely.

You say no deathless piece available there is litterally a deathless piece selector in the 10 champion selector if you dont want any of those champions

We re past deathless pieces. We did got them already via better and more fun content, we got D-Thanos, this chase is over for high end valiants.