Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Oh yeah cause every cheater so far admitted cheating. Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
100% this, it was beyond obvious.
And yet all the usual suspects took to the forums condemning each and every post from users claiming to be unjustly banned.
Were some of them lying? Of course, but it was beyond obvious many were not and there was a major mistake made on kabam’s part as usual.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Oh yeah cause every cheater so far admitted cheating. Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
I honestly think you’re trying to argue with me right now under a poorly conceived notion of sarcasm.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Oh yeah cause every cheater so far admitted cheating. Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
I honestly think you’re trying to argue with me right now under a poorly conceived notion of sarcasm.
Nope. I am being serious. You brought up the question if the forums were part of the game. Forum probably doesn't even represent 2 digit % of player base. So there is a negative stigma about being banned, and there is a chance a lot of people didn't believe it was a mistake because they didn't know what was going on or they didn't believe the person.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Oh yeah cause every cheater so far admitted cheating. Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
I honestly think you’re trying to argue with me right now under a poorly conceived notion of sarcasm.
Nope. I am being serious. You brought up the question if the forums were part of the game. Forum probably doesn't even represent 2 digit % of player base. So there is a negative stigma about being banned, and there is a chance a lot of people didn't believe it was a mistake because they didn't know what was going on or they didn't believe the person.
Ok. I’ll be nice and explain it carefully.
I agreed there were issues with the mega-ban. I stated it all over the forum at the time and most of my posts were deleted.
I don’t agree that individual accounts should get a giant compensation package just because some people were jerks to said individuals on the forum.
Yes, I agree it affected more than individual players.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Oh yeah cause every cheater so far admitted cheating. Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
I honestly think you’re trying to argue with me right now under a poorly conceived notion of sarcasm.
Nope. I am being serious. You brought up the question if the forums were part of the game. Forum probably doesn't even represent 2 digit % of player base. So there is a negative stigma about being banned, and there is a chance a lot of people didn't believe it was a mistake because they didn't know what was going on or they didn't believe the person.
Ok. I’ll be nice and explain it carefully.
I agreed there were issues with the mega-ban. I stated it all over the forum at the time and most of my posts were deleted.
I don’t agree that individual accounts should get a giant compensation package just because some people were jerks to said individuals on the forum.
Yes, I agree it affected more than individual players.
Does that help? Or do you need more?
Do i need to explain myself again? Of course the compensation is not for being ridiculed in the forums. Its for all the trouble they went thru and also the negative stigma that comes from being banned. You wrote about an obvious problem all over the forums, there is people who don't read the forums so it is not as obvious for them.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Oh yeah cause every cheater so far admitted cheating. Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
I honestly think you’re trying to argue with me right now under a poorly conceived notion of sarcasm.
Nope. I am being serious. You brought up the question if the forums were part of the game. Forum probably doesn't even represent 2 digit % of player base. So there is a negative stigma about being banned, and there is a chance a lot of people didn't believe it was a mistake because they didn't know what was going on or they didn't believe the person.
Ok. I’ll be nice and explain it carefully.
I agreed there were issues with the mega-ban. I stated it all over the forum at the time and most of my posts were deleted.
I don’t agree that individual accounts should get a giant compensation package just because some people were jerks to said individuals on the forum.
Yes, I agree it affected more than individual players.
Does that help? Or do you need more?
Do i need to explain myself again? Of course the compensation is not for being ridiculed in the forums. Its for all the trouble they went thru and also the negative stigma that comes from being banned. You wrote about an obvious problem all over the forums, there is people who don't read the forums so it is not as obvious for them.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Oh yeah cause every cheater so far admitted cheating. Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
I honestly think you’re trying to argue with me right now under a poorly conceived notion of sarcasm.
Nope. I am being serious. You brought up the question if the forums were part of the game. Forum probably doesn't even represent 2 digit % of player base. So there is a negative stigma about being banned, and there is a chance a lot of people didn't believe it was a mistake because they didn't know what was going on or they didn't believe the person.
Ok. I’ll be nice and explain it carefully.
I agreed there were issues with the mega-ban. I stated it all over the forum at the time and most of my posts were deleted.
I don’t agree that individual accounts should get a giant compensation package just because some people were jerks to said individuals on the forum.
Yes, I agree it affected more than individual players.
Does that help? Or do you need more?
Do i need to explain myself again? Of course the compensation is not for being ridiculed in the forums. Its for all the trouble they went thru and also the negative stigma that comes from being banned. You wrote about an obvious problem all over the forums, there is people who don't read the forums so it is not as obvious for them.
Sure. You got it man.
Read again the part that you quoted from DNA, he didn't mention the forum, you did.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
You obviously know that I almost always agree with you. As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it? Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
You think people didn't get kicked from alliances based on "Yeah right sure you got banned by mistake". Its not just the forum, its the stigma that comes with being labeled a cheater.
Anyone with a partial brain could see there were issues with the “mega-ban”.
Oh yeah cause every cheater so far admitted cheating. Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
I honestly think you’re trying to argue with me right now under a poorly conceived notion of sarcasm.
Nope. I am being serious. You brought up the question if the forums were part of the game. Forum probably doesn't even represent 2 digit % of player base. So there is a negative stigma about being banned, and there is a chance a lot of people didn't believe it was a mistake because they didn't know what was going on or they didn't believe the person.
Ok. I’ll be nice and explain it carefully.
I agreed there were issues with the mega-ban. I stated it all over the forum at the time and most of my posts were deleted.
I don’t agree that individual accounts should get a giant compensation package just because some people were jerks to said individuals on the forum.
Yes, I agree it affected more than individual players.
Does that help? Or do you need more?
Do i need to explain myself again? Of course the compensation is not for being ridiculed in the forums. Its for all the trouble they went thru and also the negative stigma that comes from being banned. You wrote about an obvious problem all over the forums, there is people who don't read the forums so it is not as obvious for them.
Sure. You got it man.
Read again the part that you quoted from DNA, he didn't mention the forum, you did.
Good point.
I lose this round. So alliance may have seen you as a cheat. But they don’t see that you’re banned right? Just that you’re suddenly not online.
I wasn’t thinking from the perspective of a daily player for this.
“ and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.”
That's a **** no one can earn in 1 week of playing, Give it to us as well. Hehe
Let it be equal playing field, why giving paid vacation?
Give comp to all because my emotional feelings were hurt also after seeing users getting banned falsely 🥺🥺🥺
I do agree that this is impossible to achieve within a week of playing. Why not also compensate those who lost wars etc. because of having alliance mates banned and having to play AW, AR with less players??
I wasn’t thinking from the perspective of a daily player for this.
“ and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.”
if someone you don't know shows up in Alliance line chat or discord and says "I got banned I did nothing to get banned" and people don't believe him and gets kicked and labeled as a cheater. There really isn't a fair price to compensate. Has nothing to do with the forums or if Kabam apologized or not. You already got labeled and affected.
That's a **** no one can earn in 1 week of playing, Give it to us as well. Hehe
Let it be equal playing field, why giving paid vacation?
Give comp to all because my emotional feelings were hurt also after seeing users getting banned falsely 🥺🥺🥺
I do agree that this is impossible to achieve within a week of playing. Why not also compensate those who lost wars etc. because of having alliance mates banned and having to play AW, AR with less players??
Part of it is that they don't care, the other part is our own fault too. We say things like AW rewards are terrible, AQ rewards are terrible, Raid chests are terrible, and then complain when those terrible rewards are lost.
I wasn’t thinking from the perspective of a daily player for this.
“ and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.”
if someone you don't know shows up in Alliance line chat or discord and says "I got banned I did nothing to get banned" and people don't believe him and gets kicked and labeled as a cheater. There really isn't a fair price to compensate. Has nothing to do with the forums or if Kabam apologized or not. You already got labeled and affected.
Did you actually? Or you going full hypothetical to try and guilt me?
I wasn’t thinking from the perspective of a daily player for this.
“ and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.”
if someone you don't know shows up in Alliance line chat or discord and says "I got banned I did nothing to get banned" and people don't believe him and gets kicked and labeled as a cheater. There really isn't a fair price to compensate. Has nothing to do with the forums or if Kabam apologized or not. You already got labeled and affected.
Did you actually? Or you going full hypothetical to try and guilt me?
Did I do what? Kick someone? i would have if it happened.
This is mega compensation for those who were banned. But nobody would farm that much in a week. So, good players, those who were not banned, are in disadvantage to unbanned ones. Is this fair? I started the BG season very low in VT due to Kabam bug and still climb to GC. Where is my compensation? I am in vacation now and do not have additional time to play. I probably will not receive Radiance from all 3 objectives. And this was kabam fault that was not compensated. And, voila, those who were banned receive radiance equal to 3 BG objectives for free. WTF?
WHERE IS REWARD FOR FAIR PLAYERS WHO ALWAYS PLAYED WITHOUT MODS AND WERE NOT BANNED?
Whichever way you look at it, whatever side of the discussion you're on, I don't think anyone can deny that it's a pretty hefty chunk of units. And potentially Radiance.
Slightly rhetorical, but I wonder what the drive is for Kabam being this generous?
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Bundled TBs with Valiant,
Letting Paragons play Valiant EQ,
Giving away 7r3 gems/ 7* Onslaught for free,
And now this 4.5k units free
Which is cool, yay.
But what I don't understand is why they're so DAMN stupid when it comes about giving rewards for their "hardest" content ever?
Wtf man? Yall proved time and time again that your rewards budget to give away for free is massive !!!
But budget for your "hardest" content comes straight out of dog?
What's going on Kabam?
That's a **** no one can earn in 1 week of playing,
Give it to us as well.
Hehe
Let it be equal playing field, why giving paid vacation?
Give comp to all because my emotional feelings were hurt also after seeing users getting banned falsely 🥺🥺🥺
As can be seen in my post history that doesn’t somehow get deleted.
But…. What does this part mean:
“and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is.”?
The forum isn’t really part of the game is it?
Unless I’m missing something.
Do people usually get compensated more in the actual game if they’re disparaged in the forum?
That’s an interesting one.
Also didn't you argue once that the forum doesn't even represent a significant part of the community? So yeah if a player comes and says hey guys I don't know why I got banned. You kick him from the alliance.
And yet all the usual suspects took to the forums condemning each and every post from users claiming to be unjustly banned.
Were some of them lying? Of course, but it was beyond obvious many were not and there was a major mistake made on kabam’s part as usual.
I’ll be nice and explain it carefully.
I agreed there were issues with the mega-ban.
I stated it all over the forum at the time and most of my posts were deleted.
I don’t agree that individual accounts should get a giant compensation package just because some people were jerks to said individuals on the forum.
Yes, I agree it affected more than individual players.
Does that help? Or do you need more?
Of course the compensation is not for being ridiculed in the forums. Its for all the trouble they went thru and also the negative stigma that comes from being banned.
You wrote about an obvious problem all over the forums, there is people who don't read the forums so it is not as obvious for them.
I lose this round.
So alliance may have seen you as a cheat. But they don’t see that you’re banned right?
Just that you’re suddenly not online.
I get it now. My apologies.
“ and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.”
Why not also compensate those who lost wars etc. because of having alliance mates banned and having to play AW, AR with less players??
I started the BG season very low in VT due to Kabam bug and still climb to GC. Where is my compensation? I am in vacation now and do not have additional time to play. I probably will not receive Radiance from all 3 objectives. And this was kabam fault that was not compensated. And, voila, those who were banned receive radiance equal to 3 BG objectives for free. WTF?
WHERE IS REWARD FOR FAIR PLAYERS WHO ALWAYS PLAYED WITHOUT MODS AND WERE NOT BANNED?
Slightly rhetorical, but I wonder what the drive is for Kabam being this generous?