I agree on everything except Jean. I personally think Jean will be a defender that we will simply get better at fighting. I fought one today this meta and The fight was going so well until her AI decided to be ultra aggressive and not block etc. Yadda yadda lost about 60% health from reversed ctrl getting hit and block damage.
But up until that mistake, I found her pretty simple I just had to pay attention to when I took of her shield and her "CALL-OUT"
Definitely agree with enchantress she's borderline nearly unbeatable this meta. I did a 100% health finish with Kate (KEEP IN MIND I PUSHED HER TO HER SP3 BUT SHE DECIDED TO HAVE MERCY LOL so it was basicallyjust luck). I have died more times than I've survived to her this meta.
You literally have to take off 3 spells (ALL OF WHICH INVOLVE YOU HITTING HER coupled with the energize node she's already at another sp1 by the time you take out her spells. NOT TO MENTION her AI can decide not to play into your intercepts. I have died soo many times from dmg reflect to her this meta because I was unable to take off her spells before she reached another special 1 and the cycle repeats.
I also wish Jean didn't place those exhaustions tho cos it plays into inequity and also ruins the CRIT damage CHAMPS which kabam is gradually destroying with every defender that comes out. I know she has that mechanic to further create new techs that do not crit so I understand but most defenders now mitigate big crits and its so annoying. The game is moving to such a RED NUMBERS ONLY meta and I hate it so much.
There’s like 2 champs that lower crit damage lmao. Definitely not a red numbers only meta. Yelena also caps like everything
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
You dont even need a counter for enchantress, there already existed a lot, yet they just released another in spider woman
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
You dont even need a counter for enchantress, there already existed a lot, yet they just released another in spider woman
On paper you don't need a counter for her, but be real you're not just taking any champ to play against her. Even with her best counters, I've seen the best of players be punished not because of their lack of skill, but for factors that are literally unavoidable. And when that is matched up with absurd metas, it makes the game feel less skill-based, and more luck dependant, that's all I'm saying.
I didn't talk for this meta in particular, but in general, I think you can block Jean's special and survive, unless her special hits hard like bullseye.
Midchantress is definitely the most unfair defender ever made, even worse than serpent.
Why I say this is her base kit is quite manageable, but she is always just 1 node away from being borderline unkillable. It's easy to super charge her compared to any other champ in the game.
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Any miss counter works. In fact, you don't even need a miss counter. I used silk very effectively and she doesn't counter miss.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Any miss counter works. In fact, you don't even need a miss counter. I used silk very effectively and she doesn't counter miss.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
As I've mentioned many times in this thread already, miss isn't the only problem of her kit, its the culmination of all her RNG mechanics that make for an unfair experience, especially when you add BG nodes to it. Not a hard concept to grasp.
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Any miss counter works. In fact, you don't even need a miss counter. I used silk very effectively and she doesn't counter miss.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
As I've mentioned many times in this thread already, miss isn't the only problem of her kit, its the culmination of all her RNG mechanics that make for an unfair experience, especially when you add BG nodes to it. Not a hard concept to grasp.
Usually with most nodes there will be some defenders who become very difficult to fight, like Aegon with that fury/unblockable/unstoppable node a couple of seasons ago. Enchantress has benefited greatly from both nodes this season, but on her own she is no longer that difficult to fight. As far as Jean, reverse controls are part of the game, nothing unfair about that.
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Any miss counter works. In fact, you don't even need a miss counter. I used silk very effectively and she doesn't counter miss.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
As I've mentioned many times in this thread already, miss isn't the only problem of her kit, its the culmination of all her RNG mechanics that make for an unfair experience, especially when you add BG nodes to it. Not a hard concept to grasp.
Nodes can super charge particular defenders or attackers. That happens. Can't go around changing champs just because some nodes will affect them more than others . Even a 6* corvus can take down R3 bullsyeyes this meta with 100% health. Does that mean he's unbalanced? No.
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Any miss counter works. In fact, you don't even need a miss counter. I used silk very effectively and she doesn't counter miss.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
As I've mentioned many times in this thread already, miss isn't the only problem of her kit, its the culmination of all her RNG mechanics that make for an unfair experience, especially when you add BG nodes to it. Not a hard concept to grasp.
Usually with most nodes there will be some defenders who become very difficult to fight, like Aegon with that fury/unblockable/unstoppable node a couple of seasons ago. Enchantress has benefited greatly from both nodes this season, but on her own she is no longer that difficult to fight. As far as Jean, reverse controls are part of the game, nothing unfair about that.
Those Aegon type fights are very niche though, enchantress' kit is far too sensitive which tends to make many nodes worsen the matchup against her in a ln unfair manner. We've already seen this with all the power gain nodes we've been getting.
And with Jean, I wasn't even complaining about the reverse controls, it's the fact that it has a 50% chance to trigger each special. Either make it 100% or don't add it at all. Imagine if Onslaught's sp2 was a 50% chance to trigger delirium, that matchup would feel like hell to play against
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Any miss counter works. In fact, you don't even need a miss counter. I used silk very effectively and she doesn't counter miss.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
As I've mentioned many times in this thread already, miss isn't the only problem of her kit, its the culmination of all her RNG mechanics that make for an unfair experience, especially when you add BG nodes to it. Not a hard concept to grasp.
Nodes can super charge particular defenders or attackers. That happens. Can't go around changing champs just because some nodes will affect them more than others . Even a 6* corvus can take down R3 bullsyeyes this meta with 100% health. Does that mean he's unbalanced? No.
There is a difference between some nodes supercharging certain champs, and champs that get supercharged by dang near every node.
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Any miss counter works. In fact, you don't even need a miss counter. I used silk very effectively and she doesn't counter miss.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
As I've mentioned many times in this thread already, miss isn't the only problem of her kit, its the culmination of all her RNG mechanics that make for an unfair experience, especially when you add BG nodes to it. Not a hard concept to grasp.
Nodes can super charge particular defenders or attackers. That happens. Can't go around changing champs just because some nodes will affect them more than others . Even a 6* corvus can take down R3 bullsyeyes this meta with 100% health. Does that mean he's unbalanced? No.
There is a difference between some nodes supercharging certain champs, and champs that get supercharged by dang near every node.
Because she's a hard defender. Same goes for bullseye, Serpant, zola, maestro, rintrah etc. She has a hard kit. So any additional nodes will make her harder. That is expected.
Use a champ that can’t miss. Like Photon or Bullseye. Yw
Ah yes cause they will simply show up in my draft every single time...
Miss isn't even the start of all of enchantress' problems
Do you also complain about not being able to draft a poison immune to face abomination?
There are wayyy more champs that can counter abomination consistently when compared to enchantress, this is just a bad point. Especially when you already know what to expect when going into an abom fight, whilst every enchantress fight is a different fight.
Any miss counter works. In fact, you don't even need a miss counter. I used silk very effectively and she doesn't counter miss.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
As I've mentioned many times in this thread already, miss isn't the only problem of her kit, its the culmination of all her RNG mechanics that make for an unfair experience, especially when you add BG nodes to it. Not a hard concept to grasp.
Nodes can super charge particular defenders or attackers. That happens. Can't go around changing champs just because some nodes will affect them more than others . Even a 6* corvus can take down R3 bullsyeyes this meta with 100% health. Does that mean he's unbalanced? No.
There is a difference between some nodes supercharging certain champs, and champs that get supercharged by dang near every node.
Because she's a hard defender. Same goes for bullseye, Serpant, zola, maestro, rintrah etc. She has a hard kit. So any additional nodes will make her harder. That is expected.
Out of those you just mentioned, Serpent is the only one on enchantress' level (maybe Zola too idk yet), and he definitely should've got nerfed. And even with those champs, you still have a rough idea what to expect each match. (Can't say the same for her or even domino pre-AA immune champs)
Saying she has a "hard kit' is putting it lightly, she has an unfortunate kit lol
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Midchantress is definitely the most unfair defender ever made, even worse than serpent.
Why I say this is her base kit is quite manageable, but she is always just 1 node away from being borderline unkillable. It's easy to super charge her compared to any other champ in the game.
If miss is such a problem for you, get a miss counter in your deck. There's plenty
Enchantress has benefited greatly from both nodes this season, but on her own she is no longer that difficult to fight.
As far as Jean, reverse controls are part of the game, nothing unfair about that.
And with Jean, I wasn't even complaining about the reverse controls, it's the fact that it has a 50% chance to trigger each special. Either make it 100% or don't add it at all. Imagine if Onslaught's sp2 was a 50% chance to trigger delirium, that matchup would feel like hell to play against
Saying she has a "hard kit' is putting it lightly, she has an unfortunate kit lol