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5-Star Featured Crystal Change Discussion Thread

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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,513 ★★★★★
    Dropfaith wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    LeNoirFaineant wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    LeNoirFaineant wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    NinjAlan wrote: »
    Kabam, do you think we are blind? This is clearly an attempt to encourage us to purchase the 300 unit crystals. Shameful in all respects

    There is no evidence to support this because there's nothing that says the drop rate of the 5* Featured is higher in those Crystals.

    It's not about drop rate, it's about wanting a specific champ.
    Correct. The reason for rolling a Featured is. I'm talking about the drop rate because a GMC is more rare than a Featured, at least theoretically since I don't know the actual numbers. I'm sure people will try it, but I don't see it as a more enticing offer.

    My personal experience is 0-14 on Featured 5* crystals. Got Blade for 3k units from GM. What I have observed is that most people are either lucky or unlucky at both which gives the lie to the Kabam position on drop rates. But most people would rather take their chances on a better chance at a champ they want than an equal chance for 20+ champs that they know they don't want. This is a horrible crystal and I'd be stunned if it isn't an abject failure.

    With 6 Champs that are new in it, that's a 25% possibility of a Featured. You're correct that it's luck, but I don't see the GMC having better drop rates than that. I think it will just be like any other situation where people chance for themselves if they think it's worth it or not.

    That would assume all 6 are of equal value.. they aren't by any means

    That's a matter of preference. They're new, hence Featured. Those will change in 3 months when 6 newer Champs are added.
  • SkymastrSkymastr Member Posts: 46 ★
    Rip most of players who doesnt spend like big blue whale. Everything they did on this future **** cause of GMC sells if u are not whale u cant access new champ thats it. All wellcome the new marvel contest of whales.
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,884 ★★★★★
    I mean, it's 15k shards... Grandmaster is supposed to be helping and still chucks in an Ant-Man!!

    Could you not just make it so all the 15k crystals JUST include featured champs!?

    It's not fair saving to pull an Ant-Man, I mean even if they are all featured inside... some new champs aren't great, so you could still pull someone rubbish, but at least it would of been a previously featured/new champion.
  • General_VisGeneral_Vis Member Posts: 138
    The pool of 18 are mostly underwhelming, but that wouldn’t matter so much if the 6 featured champs were worth the risk. However, it looks like a really bad month to implement this when the featured champs are mainly poor.

    If you look at the 6 featured champs added in previous months there are plenty there who would be worth the risk:

    1
    Hyperion
    Gwenpool
    Hood
    Dormammu

    2
    Archangel
    Psylocke
    Iceman
    Angela

    3
    Yondu
    Stark Spidey
    Green Goblin

    4
    Doc Oc
    Medusa
    Memphisto
    Morningstar
    Blade

    If any of those months had been added to the 6 pool it would be worth the risk as even if you missed out on the champ you wanted, there was still a chance of getting a good backup option. This month doesn’t seem anywhere near as good for featured champs.
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
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    DNA3000 wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    Sugardaddy1129 wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    You aren't getting an increased chance at Ant-Man.

    I’ll give you a hand with the math...

    Basic Pool - 84 champions (when the new crystal arrives), one of which is Ant-Man. Therefore, I have a 1/84, or 1.19%, chance to pull him from a basic, 10k shard 5* crystal.

    New Featured Pool - 24 champions, one of which is Antman. From this crystal, I have a 1/24, or 4.16%, chance at pulling him from this awful new Featured 5* Crystal.

    Seems to me that if I want to dupe one of the worst champions in the game for the third time, the featured is the way to go.

    It's not advertised as "Increased Chance At Ant-Man". The probability may be greater, but probability is not concrete when we are dealing with RNG. Actually, your math is correct, but the focus is not right. The current Crystal has a higher Basic probability than anything. That means you currently have a greater chance at a Champ you don't want.

    How is it possible that in this entire thread, this is the most bizarre sequence of words I've read all day.
    People are defocusing on one Champ, Ant-Man. Which for all intensive purposes represents an unfavorable pull. As it stands, the estimated probability of pulling a Basic is much higher than the 4% that represents Ant-Man.

    Seriously still with "intensive purpose

    For all intensive purposes is the eggcorn term. It's commonly used.

    It’s actually ‘for all INTENTS and purposes’
  • AlsciendeAlsciende Member Posts: 3 ★
    @Kabam Miike Thank you for answering our questions. Another one: from Feb 13th to, roughly, May 13th, the featured crystal will include 18 "old" champions and 6 "new" champions, with an even chance to drop any champion. But those "new" champions will be added to the regular 10k crystal in their time, right? So on Feb 13th, Thor (Ragnarok) will only be available from the Featured Crystal, but on Feb 28th, he will be added to the Basic Crystal. Same with the others, and on May 9th, Void will be added to the Basic Crystal, and all the champions in the Featured Crystal will also be available in the Basic Crystal as well, correct? And that's roughly the date when you will change the Featured Crystal to include a new batch of "new" champions, because, well, the "new" champions will not be new anymore. So the value of the Featured Crystal is very time-dependent, because if you wait a few day/weeks, the champions you want will be added in the Basic Crystal and the Featured Crystal may not be worth the cost anymore.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,513 ★★★★★
    Snizzbar wrote: »
    I don't care about the featured crystal. All I care about is the owls in tents and porpoises. Probably eating eggcorns. I know GW will back me up on this one.

    That's funny.
  • notornotor Member Posts: 12
    Instead adding those useless champs into featured crystal use the opportunity to add old missing 5* champs there (SW, Thor, BW, Wolvie etc.)
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    Can we get a calendar to see what the future basics will be in advance?

    This rubbish one lasts 3 months(too long) right?

    What’s the next quarters champs like? If it’s Spark, SL, Mephisto, Iceman, GR, AA,etc... I’d buy it...
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    Hubris_hater wrote: »
    Bobbie_Drake wrote: »

    With 120k shards saved up now since the 2nd iceman opening I realize I should be able to dupe blade with the gem but after that my chances of getting a hero I really want have decreased from 20-25% to about 4%.

    Blade featured crystal is still the same mate, so you should be good

    Not what he said... he said AFTER blade.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,513 ★★★★★
    Cuteshelf wrote: »
    Hubris_hater wrote: »
    Bobbie_Drake wrote: »

    With 120k shards saved up now since the 2nd iceman opening I realize I should be able to dupe blade with the gem but after that my chances of getting a hero I really want have decreased from 20-25% to about 4%.

    Blade featured crystal is still the same mate, so you should be good

    Not what he said... he said AFTER blade.

    Changes take effect on February 13th but they're also running the Blade Featured on the 22nd of February as scheduled.
  • MEKA5MEKA5 Member Posts: 344 ★★
    Yeah! The logic is clear. One needs to pay real money to get the desired 5* champ from FGMC.
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,884 ★★★★★
    MEKA5 wrote: »
    Yeah! The logic is clear. One needs to pay real money to get the desired 5* champ from FGMC.

    I've got to agree, it seems like they try and make it look like we are getting something good, but in reality just being milked to buy the 300 unit crystals.

    And they wonder why there is so much outrage.
  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    Less and less fun in this game.....
  • bloodyCainbloodyCain Member Posts: 910 ★★★
    There is only one benefit for KABAM with the new 5* Featured crystal: profits from Featured GMC.

    There will be players that can't wait to get a hand on a 5* new champ and will buy a lot of FGMC = profits for KABAM.

    I would really love that if the community don't even spend money on units just to buy FGMC when the new 5* Featured crystal arrives. That's definitely will affect their revenue by a bit and would make them lose their minds. LOL
  • TensioTensio Member Posts: 184 ★
    Kabam Miike wrote: »
    Darth_Kaladinn wrote: »
    So next month (February) Gladiator Hulk and Killmonger come out.

    If I want them as a 5*, the only way to get them next month is from 300 unit crystals?! Otherwise I have to wait until May?!?! That’s crazy!

    Out of curiosity, why is having to wait crazy? There is no other Crystal in the game that lets you use shards for a Champion at its release, and unless you choose to purchase the Featured Hero Crystal, you have to wait until they are released in the Basic Hero Crystal to have a chance at the 3-Star or 4-Star Champion.

    The 5-Star Featured Hero crystal was an anomaly in the game that made sense with the state of the game when they were introduced, but that was a very long time ago, when you may never have a chance at that Champion again.

    @Kabam Miike Eliminate the 15K featured 5* crystal but introduce 5* arenas and everything will be similar as now with 4*. The problem now is that only spending summoners have a 0.1% to obtain the new 5* featured champ or spending 15K shards a 20-25%. But now this percentage has been decreased to a 4%.

    Time for 5* arenas
  • Ryuichi_01Ryuichi_01 Member Posts: 123 ★
    Ashfar23 wrote: »
    Will Thor Scarlet Witch Captain WW2 Black Widow Daredevil Classic Wolverine.....will be added to 5 star ?
    They should be added in 5 star...... you added all the worst champs but can't add them ?

    they'll be OP as 5*.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,513 ★★★★★
    To be fair, it's possible later on. I have a suspicion we may see them sometime. Just that they have no plans at this time.
  • Ryuichi_01Ryuichi_01 Member Posts: 123 ★
    I just love how some peeps are using maths and probability principles etc in the game. As a youtuber said, "we play the game because we want to enjoy and not to stress ourselves on this kind of things." Well maybe lowering the cost of this 5* featured between 10-15k or maybe lower than 10k. But yeah, we'll just have to accept what they will add since they are the captain of the ship.
  • Mwhitaker23Mwhitaker23 Member Posts: 332 ★★
    any news on when 6 stars are coming and which champs will be in the pool? im at 12k 6 star shards now @Kabam Miike
  • Nexus_UY_ScutiNexus_UY_Scuti Member Posts: 480 ★★
    Can you summarize in a table the situation before and after the change.

    I know you are trying, but your wall of text is too complicated to understand.
  • weapon_xtreme83weapon_xtreme83 Member Posts: 110 ★
    Congratulations Kabam. You just made it so that after the Blade featured crystal, no one is going to care about the featured crystals anymore. Makes you wonder if this has something to do with the possibility of disclosing the drop rates, and adding multiple champs allows them to manipulate this.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,513 ★★★★★
    I do not work for them. They've said it themselves many times. I can see you're trying hard to argue. I'm not interested. Sorry.
  • SpiritOfVengeanceSpiritOfVengeance Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★
    edited January 2018
    Why are you guys focusing your hate on grounded wisdom he or she is irrelevant like all of us but our voice is the only thing they can listen to, kabam is going to release this crystal which works in the worst way. Focus on making sure they change it after seeing how bad the first one is. If they decide to just ignore our feedback well that just once again proves what kabam is.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,513 ★★★★★
    If that's how you feel, great. As I said before, we can agree to disagree.
  • belli300belli300 Member Posts: 704 ★★★
    Kabam Miike wrote: »
    Just talked to the team, and they are comfortable with sharing the list of Champions we plan to include in the first Featured Champion Crystal. It's important to note that this list could still potentially change a little before the release, but the selected Champions are based on empirical data showing their effectiveness as 5-Star Champions in both Alliance Quests and Alliance Wars.

    Beast
    Storm
    Cable
    Cyclops (New Xavier School)
    Thor (Ragnarok)
    Taskmaster
    Agent Venom
    Hawkeye
    Modok
    Sentry
    Void
    Ant-Man
    Mordo
    Thor (Jane Foster)
    Loki
    Juggernaut
    Hela
    Phoenix
    Ronan
    Venompool
    Nebula
    Punisher (2099)
    Civil Warrior
    Doctor Octopus

    Bold Text denotes Featured Champions.

    This is absolutely hilarious I can’t believe the team thought this was a good idea #deathoffeaturedfivestar
  • becauseicantbecauseicant Member Posts: 412 ★★★
    Can you please tell us if you're at least considering finishing the planned featured 5* crystals for everyone up to Sentry? Tons of people have been saving for characters and they won't get a shot to roll for them with this change. This is a massive change that affects everyone who was saving for heroes that came after Blade and yet only he gets a special second run. Do the right thing and give these people their second chance as well.
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