War point scoring system needs work

Roguefrogger13

Four times over the last two months my alliance has beaten another Alliance in three out of four scoring areas. During each of those Wars both teams completed both Maps. However the opposing team only beat us in one of the four other point-scoring sections. We won in diversity, map coverage and remaining Defenders. The other team in each War only beat us in the attack bonus section. So how can the opposing team not complete the map, not defeat all of our Defenders and not have diversity yet still win? The point scoring system does not work the way it is set up. You need to reduce the points you get for attack bonus and increase the other areas. Is anyone else experiencing this? Does anyone else have any ideas on how this could be fixed? This has been extremely frustrating for the members of my alliance.

Savio444

War is the only thing I hate about this game. All the other modes a good though.

Roguefrogger13

The other alliances we fought had way stronger champions than we did but we still got through it. We still completed everything and we still lost even though the other teams did not complete everything.

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Roguefrogger13

I agree, when this stuff happens it makes us not want to go and do another War. It feels as though we got cheated.

GroundedWisdom

Attack Bonus is skill-oriented. Defeating Nodes without dying gives Full Bonus. If you die once, you lose 80 Points, then another 80 next death, then another until no Bonus remains. However, that wouldn't account for the large variation in Points you're showing. Boss Kills, perhaps.

Roguefrogger13

I'm not going to deny that my team died more than the other team but if you we're able to look at the enemy Defenders we were facing compared to the enemy Defenders they were facing we did way better. The other teams all had five stars and six stars with a reading of 7 to 12000 well most of my group is between 6000 + 8000. So of course we are going to die a little more than the other team but we still did our job and completed everything yet we still lost. That's not right.

Roguefrogger13

I always take the time to maximize diversity and place our Defenders on the best spots possible. I'm beginning to feel that all of this extra work I'm putting into this game for my group is a waste of time.

Roguefrogger13

Look at this, this is from the war that just ended and this is what they left.

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GroundedWisdom

What I'm saying is there's more than Attack Bonus in the screenshots you're showing. It looks like they took down Bosses and you didn't. That's a significant amount. Diversity is minimal now, so the importance is also on placing Champs that stop up the Opponent.

Roguefrogger13

They didn't complete the map, they didn't defeat all of our Defenders and they had very low diversity points but they still won because they have stronger champions. This game isn't about skilled the way they have it set up, it's about who has better champions

GroundedWisdom

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Roguefrogger13

In both instances we defeated all of our bosses and completed the maps a hundred percent

Roguefrogger13

Actually in the second one neither of us defeated the main boss, my bad on that. Here are the screenshots showing you that boss kills had nothing to do with it.

Roguefrogger13

Roguefrogger13

So how are we still losing?

Roguefrogger13

In my opinion the attack bonus points need to be reduced and they need to increase points in the other sections but only slightly. All of the scoring areas should be more equal

GroundedWisdom

Roguefrogger13 wrote: »

In my opinion the attack bonus points need to be reduced and they need to increase points in the other sections but only slightly. All of the scoring areas should be more equal

That's the opposite of what they did. Attack Bonus was added to provide an element of skill.

SpiritOfVengeance

This happened to us same thing same thing. My alliance were not angry just upset a lot of effort was put in and we got through same areas as you but both alliances got 3 clears instead of 2. The attack bonus screwed us over. We had hard bosses to face and took them down easily too I took the modok boss and saved my bg a hell a lot of deaths as well but the teamwork to getting everything ticked off actually worked out except the attack bonus.

We took it as the loss after and accepted we had to improve our defence.

GroundedWisdom

There's still something that isn't adding up because they're showing a 50k advantage.

SpiritOfVengeance

They get the 50k advantage if they win don't they?
@GroundedWisdom

JoMama999

Roguefrogger13 wrote: »

So how are we still losing?

You are dying 20+ more times than the opponent. Why do you expect to win when that happens?

Diversity is only 30 points each. Attack bonus is 80 points each. Seems to me you are not focussing your strategy on maximizing points. Try going less diversity and harder defenders. The other teams are doing that and they are beating you

Vizard

Yes, the 50K advantage should be from the win.

And I actually think the individual war scoring system is fine. It's more the multipliers for tiers and the tiers that could be fixed. I play with people who have all the best champs yet are using all their items each war due to a lack of skill and sometimes it costs us. Having better champs does't mean that you will always win, skill is definitely important and I appreciate that it is factored into war results.

Roguefrogger13

I appreciate the feedback everyone but I still think that they should level out the points scoring system

Roguefrogger13

If you don't complete the map a hundred percent that means you are not defeating all of the enemy Defenders so in my opinion you should not win

GroundedWisdom

The Map isn't as important as focusing on playing efficiently. That was the whole point of the current iteration. Exploration was reduced, and Attack Bonus was added to focus on skill.

GroundedWisdom

As for the 50k, it slipped my mind. I'm usually more focused on the Rank than the Scoring. Thanks for pointing it out. TBH, if we lose, we lose. I can usually identify why it is we lost during the War. I don't mull over the Score much. Lol.

Demonzfyre

Roguefrogger13 wrote: »

in this war, you lost because you died more times than the opponent. They might of got 3 boss kills but left defenders up, they can still win. Remaining defenders aren't worth much in points. You only got 750 points for having 3 left that weren't the boss. Thats not enough to overcome your alliances poor play in this war.

Demonzfyre

Roguefrogger13 wrote: »

You guys are dying waaaaayyyyyy more than opponents. Only time you can win this way is if the other team doesn't get boss kills. The scoring doesn't need work, your offense needs work.