Why are we complaining about AW

Deli

Kabam has made AW competitive again and all we do is complain. Why? Walking through maps, easily %100 exploring has made the game so boring without any type of challenge. This is a good update that doesn't deserve the flack it has received.

RehctansBew

I disagree, sorry but the new nodes are item pits. At least last season you could manage. It still took items and a lot of boosts. They just pushed the envelope to far with this round of updates.

StokesXC

It's not competive they flat out said we are not supposed to 100% how does that make sense in a game we strive to explore everything .... Story, eq, aliance quest, events, Goal of this game has always been to explore now kabam is telling u s that isnt how it's supposed to go... I call bs...

DarthPhal

Deli wrote: »

Last almost every war we fought every %100 the map. Where is the challenge in that??
And nobody says you HAVE to spend items.

That’s true, you could just lose.

Raganator

Deli wrote: »

Bruh AW is alliance vs alliance. It is the only true head to head competition in the game. The essence of head to head competition requires a winner and a loser. The thought that both allys should be able to clear does not fall in line with this type of competition

Then they should remove items from AW.

V1PER1987

Deli wrote: »

@ Darth pal. I disagree. Since the challenge is the same for everybody then there is a high chance that the ally you face will have just a difficult a time completing the board as you did. Unless they are better. Or unless they are willing to spend excess money. If that is the case I think you should direct your frustration at the whales and not kabam

Um, no. Frustration should definitely be directed at Kabam. They’re the ones who designed this system. The whales just play by the rules Kabam establishes. If there was no item use then those whales would probably lose and that’s why the system exists.

DarthPhal

@deli You disagree that an alliance that chooses not to use items is more likely to lose than an opponent that is using items?

Mhykke

Deli wrote: »

Kabam has made AW competitive again and all we do is complain. Why? Walking through maps, easily %100 exploring has made the game so boring without any type of challenge. This is a good update that doesn't deserve the flack it has received.

Is it really "walking through maps, easily 100% exploring..." when wars between top alliances use up 10s of thousands in units on items, per war?

Siliyo

Not being able to 100% = waste 15 items per war = about 1500-2000+ units per way in TOP TIER ALLIANCES. Yeah, I would not say it's complaining at all. There are ways to make things more competitive without forcing your customers to use items, especially using a valuable resource such as units.

WiMak

As someone who never really enjoyed wars (personal preference) I was kind of enjoying playing. Still wasn’t my favorite but it seemed… Balanced. New mini boss notes for the stated purpose of making 100% VERY difficult just seems ridiculous and disheartening. Not enjoyable again. You know what, if the very elite of this game want this and need it to create a challenge than just make it tier one, maybe even tier 2.

WiMak

I’ve watched videos and read posts of alliances continually completing wars with very few deaths sometimes None and, you’re right, that probably is boring… For them. But my experience, at my level, we are talking 60 to 90 deaths each war both sides. And this was before the update

rwhack

Deli wrote: »

Kabam has made AW competitive again and all we do is complain. Why? Walking through maps, easily %100 exploring has made the game so boring without any type of challenge. This is a good update that doesn't deserve the flack it has received.

AW tier and path please

Siliyo

If you want to WIN, you will use items. Using items doesn't mean you died out - it can mean you lost health during a fight.

Deli wrote: »

@silly to again, you dont HAVE to use items. You chose to use items because you died out. There is a difference

rwhack

Deli wrote: »

Ok. My ally was gold 1. I rarely used items and never spent units on items ever. I've seen that the top top tiers use ridiculous amounts of boosts and what not. However all those people are choosing to spend money when they truly do not have to spend money. Again if everyone wanted it to be pure skill then we as a community should agree not to spend items. But that's not gonna happen cuz people are not gonna put the energy into organizing and executing a plan. They will spend that energy complaining tho

Wait, you’re in a low tier with easier opponents and nodes? Nevermind.

Bendy

Yep even if not death u have to at least nearly fully heal each time when low on champ u be using which will be like 3 level 4s each time and gets rather expensive in terms of health pots used and how much they cost

crogs

Siliyo wrote: »

Not being able to 100% = waste 15 items per war = about 1500-2000+ units per way in TOP TIER ALLIANCES. Yeah, I would not say it's complaining at all. There are ways to make things more competitive without forcing your customers to use items, especially using a valuable resource such as units.

And everyone values units differently. Maybe some find value in using units for alliance pots to help win war and gain better rewards.

Everything in this game is about choice. Not kabam's fault if you make the choice to find value elsewhere.

Wakandas_Finest

WiMak wrote: »

I’ve watched videos and read posts of alliances continually completing wars with very few deaths sometimes None and, you’re right, that probably is boring… For them. But my experience, at my level, we are talking 60 to 90 deaths each war both sides. And this was before the update

you are correct the top 2 tiers routinely saw fewer than 10 deaths across the whole alliances but down in gold 1 if you had 40-50 deaths you were pretty confident about winning your war. Yet even with the few deaths at the top alliances were using a lot of items because they couldn’t afford to lose attack bonus so healing and boosting between fights was the norm

Siliyo

Are you in a Gold alliance? What path do you take in war?

Deli wrote: »

Last season I was going through wars maybe using 1 or 2 potions. Again using items is a CHOICE. There is nothing forcing you to use those items.

Mr_Platypus

Problem with the minibosses is that 100% the map at tier 6 is cheap and easy, and only loses you about 20k points compared to say clearing 2/3 BGs in their 5 (where the new minis are added in)

PaytoPlay

Deli wrote: »

@silly to again, you dont HAVE to use items. You chose to use items because you died out. There is a difference

If you choose to not use item in plat you probably get an automatic kick by the alliance before the war ends. Using items doesn't necessary equate to revives. The higher the tier the less revives used.

Siliyo

Irrelevant. Of all the things you choose to talk about, you're talking about value lol

crogs wrote: »

Siliyo wrote: »

Not being able to 100% = waste 15 items per war = about 1500-2000+ units per way in TOP TIER ALLIANCES. Yeah, I would not say it's complaining at all. There are ways to make things more competitive without forcing your customers to use items, especially using a valuable resource such as units.

And everyone values units differently. Maybe some find value in using units for alliance pots to help win war and gain better rewards.

Everything in this game is about choice. Not kabam's fault if you make the choice to find value elsewhere.