How effective should Domino be against Tech champions? Seriously?
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Look. I try not to outright complain a lot. It's not the most productive use of time. One character doesn't make or break the game.
But I freely admit that Domino has baffled me since release.
This is a minor character in Marvel history -- a support character. There's nothing in her character history to support the ridiculous depth of power and DPS that this character has in this game.
But OK. Fine. Just say that this is what it is.
But isn't it ridiculous that even with class disadvantage, she is still ridiculously effective against Tech champions? Even OG Vision -- who the Character Spotlight said should be effective -- is subject to block breaks and Power Drain failure.
At some point, we gotta call a spade a spade, here. This character was broken upon release and is still broken
But I freely admit that Domino has baffled me since release.
This is a minor character in Marvel history -- a support character. There's nothing in her character history to support the ridiculous depth of power and DPS that this character has in this game.
But OK. Fine. Just say that this is what it is.
But isn't it ridiculous that even with class disadvantage, she is still ridiculously effective against Tech champions? Even OG Vision -- who the Character Spotlight said should be effective -- is subject to block breaks and Power Drain failure.
At some point, we gotta call a spade a spade, here. This character was broken upon release and is still broken
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Look. It can't be all three. All three of these things cannot be a function of the character, a Mutant character, against Tech characters.
You cannot have the powers not work, the defense able to be broken, and penalties against each -- and more -- when they don't proc AGAINST THE CHARACTER CLASS DISADVANTAGE.
It can't be ALL THREE.
This character is effing broken
It's absolutely ridiculous -- it really is.
Domino doesn't need a nerf. That character was broken from Day 1 and needs to be fixed.
It's not a nerf. That character is broken, and everybody knows it
What about another powerful champ named gwenpool
Marvel universe is irrelevant to justify her power in the game.
Tech champions already have advantage against her by not being unlucky
That's how you know it's not just moaning just for the sake of moaning -- we all get it. Star-Lord's damage, Gwenpool's effectiveness, various other things are game mechanics that don't really "make sense" but they aren't really anything that messes with the gsme experience.
Domino is different.
That character is broken AF, even with leeway for game mechanics and fiction, creative license.
OG Vision, Iron Man (IW) and Spark aren't just three of the most effective characters in the game, they are Tech characters. Domino shouldn't be able to do the stuff she does against these characters.
Black Widow got nerfed in 12.0 because Subtlety was bypassing too many things, and they capped how effective it could be against Mutants. Class disadvantage.
Same thing should be in place for Domino -- this character isn't just powerful beyond her comic history, or annoying because of her game mechanics.
The character is broken beyond what is reasonable even in those scenarios and it really needs to be addressed before she enters the Basic pool
And sentry basically deals with street level thugs
You can't tell me there are no block breaks when I literally had multiple block breaks
You gonna ignore the Power Burn and Shock failure, too?
Again, there are no block breaks. Is a problem with her medium hit. By being two hits, is too slow and players try to evade mid her attack. That's how they drop their block and think they got block break. Offensively, Domino don't cause "block break" because the AI doesn't try to evade mid hit. Defensively, she doesn't cause "block break" when you just hold block without trying to evade her.
There are no problems with shock or power burn. They fail due to ability accuracy reduction, that's it
Wrong. False -- you are talking theory abiut what you THINK.
I had blocks broken just standing there. I wasn't evading. I was just standing there. If I was evading, i would say I was evading. If I say "block break," I mean the block was broken. Who do you think you're talking to? Do you understand English? Because that is what I am speaking.
Did you read the character spotlight? Vision is listed as one of the characters who is supposed to be a favorable matchup because he doesn't proc buffs. There is not supposed to be any Ability Accuracy reduction.
Read the last paragraph in her character spotlight and tell me again what you think is supposed to happen when she faces Vision. I'll wait
Definitely needs to be
Domino does have ability reduction
“At the start of the fight, opponents lose 15% Ability Accuracy. Whenever one of Domino’s abilities fails to trigger, she gains +10% Ability Accuracy for 8 seconds.“
For himself , he doesn't proc buffs. Domino still reduces his ability accuracy at the start of the fight.
And still there is no block breaks. I'm still waiting to see a video of that happening with the player showing his fingers
Why aren't we quoting the last paragraph, as well? Because it says the characters with 100 percent trigger rates -- which Power Burn is on Vision -- as a Tech character is the matchup we should be using and I didn't trigger anything at the start of the fight because she had no power to burn in Vision's case and I had no power to fire the L1 in Iron Man (IW)'s case
100% still means it can be lowered. If every ability can be lowered by the same amount, then achampion with 100% chance to trigger something would be the best thing to use since it would still have more chance to trigger something. It doen't say anything about being "immune" to ability accuracy reduction so let's keep that in mind.
For instance, SL only has an 11% chance to proc fury on hit. Every single hit that doesn't proc fury results in critical failure... That has nothing to do with Domino's AAR... Just 9/10 times SL never gets fury against any champ. If the critical failure would only proc when her AAR actually prevented a fury that would have procd, then she would be much more balanced.
I'm ok with skilled players being able to counter her in AW because honestly she does more for me as an offensive champ. I wouldn't complain if they sped up her medium but she might become overwhelming then lol.
He's right, you know. Vision is okay, but when Domino gets lucky, she can still evade his specials or cause them to fail by AAR.
Me too. But I did recently pull Proxima from a 4-star crystal, so I'm hoping that she'll help me deal with Domino. Is she a decent counter?
Who would you guys rank as the best Domino counter? Not Crossbones, I'm guessing... https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/436371#Comment_436371
She always was a chance to evade when lucky is active. Vision is not an exception. And she doesn't need lucky to be active so that she reduces his chance to trigger power burn
Did I say otherwise?
You know that the only things you're 'correcting' here are your mistaken inferences?
No ... you just said something about vision and Domino's evade ability. That has nothing to do with each other. She evades every champion.
The OP just wants a nerf to Domino. That's ok, but he is using wrong information to justify something that he problably didn't understand
That was completely unclear based on that last paragraph of the character spotlight -- I would've just blown through her with Cap (IW) or even tried Red Skull, who should work, instead of looking at the assertion that a character who literally does no damage on his specials if it fails meets all three standards of success against Domino. Vision is one of the worst characters to use if his specials fail and can be evaded, like anyone else
Vision has a 100% chance to power burn. 100-15=85. There's your chance to fail.
Vision is pointed out because he doesn't bleed or cause it, proc buffs, and his burn is 100% (see above).
I understand all of that.
That is why it makes no sense that his Power Burn is failing -- it failed multiple times during the fights. How long does Inhuman Royal Family last? Seriously? Does anyone know? Because think about it -- I am running a 5/50 Vision with 16,000 health. Power Burn failed multiple times, and not just at the start of the fight -- because again, there is no reason to fire it when she has no energy
“You shouldn’t be confused about this ability, because kabam are confusing with other abilities” is not a good defence of why @ESF shouldn’t be questioning how domino works.
“At the start of the fight” implies it doesn’t continue after the start. If I said “at the start of the fight, this champion loses 10% of their health” does that mean they permanently lose 10% of their health? No it means a one time thing.
If kabam meant the 15% AAR was through the whole fight, they should have said that. Not waited for us to work it out.