I need to address this

The_Boss9

Fix this BS

TheSquish671

What's wrong here? All you need to do is not activate armor shatter and you can keep removing his armor passives with medium attacks. And then just use heavies during that last 15%

The_Boss9

I know you can do that but you shouldn’t have to do that. It’s a big part of Medusa

Demonzfyre

Isnt his armor passive?

The_Boss9

He shouldn’t be able to activate armor when he is armor shattered. He activated it after I shattered him

A l p h a

Its not an armor buff, its an armor passive so isn't affected by armor shattered! (cheeky i know)

The_Boss9

I know and kabam is actually awful for that

The_Boss9

They should not be passive

EvilEmpire

Yeah this is a junk interaction imo, has been debated a lot already

TheSquish671

Did anyone think of pairing medusa with karnak? Then at 15%, you could remove deflector protocol armor passives with heavies. I just thought of that

The_Boss9

True but her would be about 8 heavies and if he is unstunnable it would be tough

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The_Boss9

Looking at the new champs I can tell most of the abilities are passive, and when abilities are passive certain champs like magik become useless as the nullify that was intended to remove suck buffs is rendered useless

mostlyharmlessn

it's the norm now. Release a new champ that has unavoidable, unblockable, un-nullifiable abilities.

BitterSteel

Same with Korg being given passive unstoppable so cap IW can’t get rid of it

Mirage_Turtle

"24% chance to ACTIVATE an Armor PASSIVE"

This line has always gotten me, I added the all caps words for emphasis. It's humorous to me in its fallacy.

If something needs to be ACTIVATED, then by definition, it's not passive. An umbrella is an Active guard against rain. It's not effective all the time, you need to apply effort to use it, and you take it down when it's not necessary. You activate it. A roof is a Passive guard against rain. It's there all the time no matter what the weather is. When it starts raining, it requires no external trigger or activation to kick on. It's passive.

Juggernaut is a good in-game example. Juggernaut has an additional layer of passive armor built into his stats. This armor is not activated...it's always there...so much so that's it's not necessary to display any type of on-screen icon. Same with Spidey's Evade. Or Jane Foster's Energy Resistance. They are all true passive abilities/buffs that require no trigger or activation.

IMIW was given illogical "Armor Passives" that don't behave like other passive abilities for some reason. We could all theorize what that reason (or reasons) could be, but it would be fruitless because nothing would change. Just par for the course anymore, I'm afraid.

BitterSteel

Mirage_Turtle wrote: »

"24% chance to ACTIVATE an Armor PASSIVE"

This line has always gotten me, I added the all caps words for emphasis. It's humorous to me in its fallacy.

If something needs to be ACTIVATED, then by definition, it's not passive. An umbrella is an Active guard against rain. It's not effective all the time, you need to apply effort to use it, and you take it down when it's not necessary. You activate it. A roof is a Passive guard against rain. It's there all the time no matter what the weather is. When it starts raining, it requires no external trigger or activation to kick on. It's passive.

Juggernaut is a good in-game example. Juggernaut has an additional layer of passive armor built into his stats. This armor is not activated...it's always there...so much so that's it's not necessary to display any type of on-screen icon. Same with Spidey's Evade. Or Jane Foster's Energy Resistance. They are all true passive abilities/buffs that require no trigger or activation.

IMIW was given illogical "Armor Passives" that don't behave like other passive abilities for some reason. We could all theorize what that reason (or reasons) could be, but it would be fruitless because nothing would change. Just par for the course anymore, I'm afraid.

So much this. Kabam gave Iron man active buffs and called them passive so they couldn’t make medusa a counter.

Mirage_Turtle

BitterSteel wrote: »

Mirage_Turtle wrote: »

"24% chance to ACTIVATE an Armor PASSIVE"

This line has always gotten me, I added the all caps words for emphasis. It's humorous to me in its fallacy.

If something needs to be ACTIVATED, then by definition, it's not passive. An umbrella is an Active guard against rain. It's not effective all the time, you need to apply effort to use it, and you take it down when it's not necessary. You activate it. A roof is a Passive guard against rain. It's there all the time no matter what the weather is. When it starts raining, it requires no external trigger or activation to kick on. It's passive.

Juggernaut is a good in-game example. Juggernaut has an additional layer of passive armor built into his stats. This armor is not activated...it's always there...so much so that's it's not necessary to display any type of on-screen icon. Same with Spidey's Evade. Or Jane Foster's Energy Resistance. They are all true passive abilities/buffs that require no trigger or activation.

IMIW was given illogical "Armor Passives" that don't behave like other passive abilities for some reason. We could all theorize what that reason (or reasons) could be, but it would be fruitless because nothing would change. Just par for the course anymore, I'm afraid.

So much this. Kabam gave Iron man active buffs and called them passive so they couldn’t make medusa a counter.

Which, if true, is very strange considering her main niche is shutting down robots and armored champs.

Of course, her "shutting down robots" thing has never made sense to me either. Is there something specific about Medusa that would make her a powerhouse against robots? Nothing I've ever read suggests this. If anything, shutting down the abilities of robots would make more sense for champs like Thor, Electro, Shadowcat, Magneto, or heck, even Ant Man.