An awkward mistake... [Morningstar]
Colonaut123
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I'm a bit of a medieval weapons expert and something is bothering me. It is Morningstar.
According her bio, Haasen got her name from her weapon. Only, her weapon isn't a morning star, but a ball-and-chain flail. Morning star only applies to weapons with a rigid shaft e.g. maces.
In this month EQ, Haasen repeatedly referred her weapon erroneously as a mace instead of a ball-and-chain flail.
I know it is unlikely Kabam will change her name, but in future dialogues maybe?
According her bio, Haasen got her name from her weapon. Only, her weapon isn't a morning star, but a ball-and-chain flail. Morning star only applies to weapons with a rigid shaft e.g. maces.
In this month EQ, Haasen repeatedly referred her weapon erroneously as a mace instead of a ball-and-chain flail.
I know it is unlikely Kabam will change her name, but in future dialogues maybe?
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Warden out ~
(and no the joke was not lost on me. good one.)
And to the OP, I'd like to offer the theory that maybe some people mistook it for a morningstar (I mean come on it's a murder weapon coming straight for you; I wouldn't blame someone for forgetting some details about the weapon...), and the name stuck.
Plus, as other people have mentioned, ball-and-chain flail doesn't sound as cool. Morningstar is the coolest sounding weapon name that is somewhat similar to the weapon she yields, so yeah there you go.
Interesting thing to learn though. It's awesome seeing the wide variety of people we have in this community... and it also reminds me how much more there is to know...
Likewise, it's ridiculous to think an alien from another planet with an entirely different language would use an archaic English letter in his name. Even if his name is translated into English, it wouldn't use the ash as it died out centuries ago. If his name was translated into English, it would simply be spelled A-E-G-O-N.
@WardenZero
Warden out ~
It became a weapon more known from fiction. If it existed, it was probably a very uncommon weapon as it would frequently swing back in the face of the wielder.
It maybe looks deadly but the small spikes would have a difficult time penetrating plate armor. Medieval knights weren't stupid, a pollaxe, bill, voulge, halberd, bardiche, glaive or any other pole arm could get the same job done, with less training or risk getting wounded (both by the weapon itself and due the distance a pole arm creates with the opponent).
And well... let's just say he got an education right there.
Ouch
Why can’t we just give her an actual morning star ?
You're either an expert or you're not.
Interesting. I've always been bothered by Morningstar in these EQs but I never would have cause the mace issue. I'm more of a language guy and her dialogue always bothers me because they butcher the archaic English. Either give her modern speech or get it right. It would be "my torture," not "mine torture." "Thy/Thine" and "my/mine" were similar to the present "a/an." And why is it "You are right" if it's "twist thy blade?" It's a hack job.
Tbh, whilst supposedly named for her weapon, I suspect she was actually called "Morningstar" by the Development Team because in some versions of real-world theology (depending on which sources you cite), that's one of the names/titles of the Archangel Lucifer; more recently known (after dramatically falling from grace) as Satan.