So how bad was Ice Phoenix?

TheInfintyTheInfinty Member Posts: 1,416 ★★★★
I always hear about how bad she was to fight personally during that time I wasn’t playing so please tell me how bad was she?

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  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Man it was horrible, it wasn’t like fighting a stacked iceman now, the Coldnsap damage took pretty much the full health of a 4-55 5* that wasn’t either boosted had class advantage or an abnormally high health pool, any 4* or r3 5* had to be fully boosted to stand a chance, and back then the only coldsnap immune in game was mephisto and he hits like a noodle without incinerate, there was no such thing as a 5-65 then either, it was horrible, I remember fighting her 6 times with a 4* hulk full health boosts and a lot of revives and potions
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,901 ★★★★★
    And then she got neft
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    And then she got neft

    Yeah, only to the point a class advantage 4-55 went to 15% health from full, Coldnsap still killed any unboosted 4*
  • KDoggg2017KDoggg2017 Member Posts: 1,243 ★★★★
    I respectfully passed. If content introduces an opponent with no existing counter on my roster, I skip it.
    That Coldsnap was impossible back then. Today she would be no problem at all. ☻👍
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,901 ★★★★★
    Lvernon15 said:

    Gamer said:

    And then she got neft

    Yeah, only to the point a class advantage 4-55 went to 15% health from full, Coldnsap still killed any unboosted 4*
    True it definitely wasn’t a fun fight
  • DaddriedaDaddrieda Member Posts: 1,640 ★★★★
    edited December 2019
    It wasn’t fun. Costed a lot of trials and errors back and forth back then.
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,513 ★★★★★
    There was no cold snap immune champs and damage was based off modified attack so you would pretty much die in 20-30 seconds in most scenarios.
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Zuko_ILC said:

    There was no cold snap immune champs and damage was based off modified attack so you would pretty much die in 20-30 seconds in most scenarios.

    Mephisto was coldsnap immune and it’s 12 seconds, that’s the duration of the start fight coldsnap
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,693 Guardian
    Lvernon15 said:

    Gamer said:

    And then she got neft

    Yeah, only to the point a class advantage 4-55 went to 15% health from full, Coldnsap still killed any unboosted 4*
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    There were a couple of exceptions, Rogue being the one that comes to mind. If you could either reduce the duration of the coldsnap or shake the debuff off you could survive. But I don’t think anything under 4/55 could just tank the damage fully.

    Others have already described the difficult attributes of Ice Phoenix - the initial cold snap and the heal block - but what really made her nasty was the consequences of all that stuff. At the time not many people had experience fighting Iceman so evading Ice Phoenix’s specials was not easy for most. Couple that with the heal block and you get a champion what was very likely to kill you. Couple *that* with the initial coldsnap damage and you get a champ you couldn’t just revive and fight again, so you couldn’t just keep trying until you got her. If you died, you either had to revive *and* use a lot of potions (or else coldsnap would just kill you at the start of the fight) or reset the whole map and try again.

    To be honest, at the time there was probably a lot of players dealing with UC content by just reviving their way through the rough spots, and Ice Phoenix was something you couldn’t do that for. That made her especially nasty for many UC players at the time. But even pretty good players could have extreme difficulty with her.
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  • StrStr Member Posts: 547 ★★

    I always hear about how bad she was to fight personally during that time I wasn’t playing so please tell me how bad was she?

    Essentially a death sentence for most players without an immune champ or an an insanely boosted and skilled player
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  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    MDavis said:

    Brian grant enjoyed that fight, that guy is weird...

    And he liked the 6.2 gates, he’s definitely weird lol
  • X_E_CutionerX_E_Cutioner Member Posts: 155
    + that Rise of the Phoenix regen which gave her almost 50% health back even if you somehow manage to take her down in one try
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