What’s the best way to use OR without suicides?

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• awesomesauce Member Posts: 774 ★★★

  February 2020

  Pack sabertooth on your team. That should fix most of those problems.
  
  Personally I rarely touch OR when I have suicides off, but if I were to, I'd likely follow the same general rotation as running suicides.
  
  Which would be start the fight > Parry, wait until stun almost falls off, 5-hit combo to another parry. Hold and wait, throw heavy right before stun falls off.
  
  Keep minimum 10 spores up by following that similar rotation. Obviously specific matchups, defenders, nodes and synergies will all impact this difference.
  
  Only use Sp2s for 90% of the specials thrown.
  The other part of the time is SP1 for a little Regen or to end the fight with some Regen, or seldomly an SP3 because I failed to pull off an SP2 lol.
  
  That's just my personal input though

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• awesomesauce Member Posts: 774 ★★★

  February 2020

  Also if you're finding you are struggling baiting their specials, there's some pretty solid how to guides on YouTube to help assist.

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• Polygon Member Posts: 5,610 ★★★★★

  February 2020

  @awesomesauce
  
  Thanks ill try that, you don’t do the sp2 after the first hit of the heavy (like cap)? To take advantage of the degen
  
  And yeah he kinda needs suicides, but I know people that maxed him without them. He’s still pretty good without them, my next best mutant is havok. I’m just trying to decide if I should dump my generic sig stones into him if I cant fully play him that well yet or wait for when I pull/dupe Aegon.

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• Fred_Joeity Member Posts: 1,170 ★★★

  February 2020

  I have him without suicides, and he still works pretty well. I assume the rotation is the same, just throwing a heavy whenever the degen runs out. Only real tip I can give is to idle a bit if the defender is still under a bar of power just before the degen runs out so you don’t have to worry about baiting a special.
  
  Btw while we’re on the topic, how do you use OR fighting a stun immune champion? I can’t seem to get the heavy off except with heavy baiting, and the spores tend to fall off in that case

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• awesomesauce Member Posts: 774 ★★★

  February 2020

  GagoH said:

  @awesomesauce
  
  Thanks ill try that, you don’t do the sp2 after the first hit of the heavy (like cap)? To take advantage of the degen
  
  And yeah he kinda needs suicides, but I know people that maxed him without them. He’s still pretty good without them, my next best mutant is havok. I’m just trying to decide if I should dump my generic sig stones into him if I cant fully play him that well yet or wait for when I pull/dupe Aegon.

  I'll do this if they're under 1 bar of power, degen expired, and they're backed up against the corner.
  But often I'll honestly prefer to go the other route, sp2 in the corner, then Parry/wait for stun to nearly fall off/then hit the heavy attack.
  
  It helps maximize the spore stacking. If you do heavy directly to sp2, good chances that'll push them over a bar of power, then push you back (or you dex back) to avoid the special. Also during this whole time the degen is ticking down, giving you a smaller window to reapply it.
  
  Whereas sp2 to Parry to heavy means you have at least the time of the sp2 animation duration on the degen that you didn't have before, giving you more time to bait, dex, or block (get pushed back) from their special attack

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• Neotwism Member Posts: 1,803 ★★★★★

  February 2020

  The Sabretooth synergy really makes a big difference. The spores apply fast and you will be at 30 before u realize it.

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