Buffet still broken!

SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
in Bugs and Known Issues
Buffet still removes more than 1 Buff if they are triggerd at the same time.
Colossus started the fight with 0 armor ups.

https://youtu.be/pOVMVjaRl6k

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  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    edited April 2020
    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Pretty sure that's intended. I think the wording of buffet is somewhere along the lines of "the next buff", so if multiple buffs trigger at the exact same time each of them is "the next buff".




    Buff is singular. This removes more buffs. Either the discription is wrong or its bugged again
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  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Pretty sure that's intended. I think the wording of buffet is somewhere along the lines of "the next buff", so if multiple buffs trigger at the exact same time each of them is "the next buff".




    Buff is singular. This removes more buffs. Either the discription is wrong or its bugged again
    Again, it says "the next buff". If buffet isn't in cooldown and you trigger 20 buffs at literally the exact same time, which single one of them is supposed to be the next buff? It's all of them.
    That doesnt work when you remove 1 buff with for example Magiks SP1 even when all buffs triggerd at the same time: lets say vs CMM you should nulli all of them right?

    Its not happening anywhere except vs Buffet.

    And just because you "think" its works like that doesnt mean it makes any sense. Read the description. It says buff not buffs.

    If you trigger move buffs at the same time 1 should be removed.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,032 ★★★★★
    There is no issue here.

    That is the intended behaviour. This was confirmed multiple times by the moderators already.
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  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    will-o-wisp said:

    There is no issue here.

    That is the intended behaviour. This was confirmed multiple times by the moderators already.

    I didnt know that. Do you have a link?
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Pretty sure that's intended. I think the wording of buffet is somewhere along the lines of "the next buff", so if multiple buffs trigger at the exact same time each of them is "the next buff".




    Buff is singular. This removes more buffs. Either the discription is wrong or its bugged again
    Again, it says "the next buff". If buffet isn't in cooldown and you trigger 20 buffs at literally the exact same time, which single one of them is supposed to be the next buff? It's all of them.
    That doesnt work when you remove 1 buff with for example Magiks SP1 even when all buffs triggerd at the same time: lets say vs CMM you should nulli all of them right?

    Its not happening anywhere except vs Buffet.

    And just because you "think" its works like that doesnt mean it makes any sense. Read the description. It says buff not buffs.

    If you trigger move buffs at the same time 1 should be removed.
    Dude that response makes no sense at all lmao.

    Magik's sp1 explicitly removes 1 buff, not "the next buff".

    You obviously don't know how this game works, evident by you not understanding how the slow debuff functions while that is explicitly explained in game.

    Think about stagger, those work essentially exactly like buffet. So again, you're incorrect on the sentiment that buffet is the only interaction like that. Masochism also removes all debuffs triggered at the exact same time by the way.

    Just actually think about it for a second. If 20 buffs trigger at literally the exact same time, which one of them is "the next buff"?
    If Kabam wants it to work like that its fine. Then the description should be changed bc no one would think that it works that way when fighting that node (without testing that interaction).

    If more buffs trigger it should just pick one and nulli that/ same way when you fight Colossus and nulli 1 buff. It just picks one and nullis it. Nothing special there.

    With Stagger you are right the first time. Grats on that. But that should also say it in the description so you know that bit of utility ;)
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  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Pretty sure that's intended. I think the wording of buffet is somewhere along the lines of "the next buff", so if multiple buffs trigger at the exact same time each of them is "the next buff".




    Buff is singular. This removes more buffs. Either the discription is wrong or its bugged again
    Again, it says "the next buff". If buffet isn't in cooldown and you trigger 20 buffs at literally the exact same time, which single one of them is supposed to be the next buff? It's all of them.
    That doesnt work when you remove 1 buff with for example Magiks SP1 even when all buffs triggerd at the same time: lets say vs CMM you should nulli all of them right?

    Its not happening anywhere except vs Buffet.

    And just because you "think" its works like that doesnt mean it makes any sense. Read the description. It says buff not buffs.

    If you trigger move buffs at the same time 1 should be removed.
    Dude that response makes no sense at all lmao.

    Magik's sp1 explicitly removes 1 buff, not "the next buff".

    You obviously don't know how this game works, evident by you not understanding how the slow debuff functions while that is explicitly explained in game.

    Think about stagger, those work essentially exactly like buffet. So again, you're incorrect on the sentiment that buffet is the only interaction like that. Masochism also removes all debuffs triggered at the exact same time by the way.

    Just actually think about it for a second. If 20 buffs trigger at literally the exact same time, which one of them is "the next buff"?
    If Kabam wants it to work like that its fine. Then the description should be changed bc no one would think that it works that way when fighting that node (without testing that interaction).

    If more buffs trigger it should just pick one and nulli that/ same way when you fight Colossus and nulli 1 buff. It just picks one and nullis it. Nothing special there.

    With Stagger you are right the first time. Grats on that. But that should also say it in the description so you know that bit of utility ;)
    Do you still not understand the difference between any nullify ability clearly stating that it will nullify [X] buffs and the wording of buffet stating it will remove "the next buff"?

    I'm also right on slow. Read some in-game descriptions, you don't even need to tell me that I'm correct, since I already know that. It would make you a bit smarter, though, so win win.

    And it is stated in the description.

    Please lmao answer my question. Logically, if 20 buffs trigger at the exact same time, which one of them is "the next buff"? Could it... Could it be all of them? Could that actually make sense? Could the description actually perfectly state what is happening in game? Shocker.
    Removing the next buff: just pick 1. Doesnt matter which. If you want all to be removed just add:
    "If more than one buff will be activated at the same time and this ability is not on cooldown, all will be removed."

    This is an old ability and just needs a bit of clarification if it collides with newer champs or reworks like Colossus and CMM. Kabam even said that themself ;)

    If you cant understand that then your ego is too big.
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  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,839 Guardian
    Seraphion's not really “wrong” about how it is worded.
    If it takes people some research or looking at Forum to figure out WHY it is removing all buffs, then at least the wording could probably be made a little clearer.

    Even if just changed from “next buff” to “next buff(s)” would be better. Or “next simultaneous buff(s)”.
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Seraphion said:

    UmbertoDelRio said:

    Pretty sure that's intended. I think the wording of buffet is somewhere along the lines of "the next buff", so if multiple buffs trigger at the exact same time each of them is "the next buff".




    Buff is singular. This removes more buffs. Either the discription is wrong or its bugged again
    Again, it says "the next buff". If buffet isn't in cooldown and you trigger 20 buffs at literally the exact same time, which single one of them is supposed to be the next buff? It's all of them.
    That doesnt work when you remove 1 buff with for example Magiks SP1 even when all buffs triggerd at the same time: lets say vs CMM you should nulli all of them right?

    Its not happening anywhere except vs Buffet.

    And just because you "think" its works like that doesnt mean it makes any sense. Read the description. It says buff not buffs.

    If you trigger move buffs at the same time 1 should be removed.
    Dude that response makes no sense at all lmao.

    Magik's sp1 explicitly removes 1 buff, not "the next buff".

    You obviously don't know how this game works, evident by you not understanding how the slow debuff functions while that is explicitly explained in game.

    Think about stagger, those work essentially exactly like buffet. So again, you're incorrect on the sentiment that buffet is the only interaction like that. Masochism also removes all debuffs triggered at the exact same time by the way.

    Just actually think about it for a second. If 20 buffs trigger at literally the exact same time, which one of them is "the next buff"?
    If Kabam wants it to work like that its fine. Then the description should be changed bc no one would think that it works that way when fighting that node (without testing that interaction).

    If more buffs trigger it should just pick one and nulli that/ same way when you fight Colossus and nulli 1 buff. It just picks one and nullis it. Nothing special there.

    With Stagger you are right the first time. Grats on that. But that should also say it in the description so you know that bit of utility ;)
    Do you still not understand the difference between any nullify ability clearly stating that it will nullify [X] buffs and the wording of buffet stating it will remove "the next buff"?

    I'm also right on slow. Read some in-game descriptions, you don't even need to tell me that I'm correct, since I already know that. It would make you a bit smarter, though, so win win.

    And it is stated in the description.

    Please lmao answer my question. Logically, if 20 buffs trigger at the exact same time, which one of them is "the next buff"? Could it... Could it be all of them? Could that actually make sense? Could the description actually perfectly state what is happening in game? Shocker.
    Removing the next buff: just pick 1. Doesnt matter which. If you want all to be removed just add:
    "If more than one buff will be activated at the same time and this ability is not on cooldown, all will be removed."

    This is an old ability and just needs a bit of clarification if it collides with newer champs or reworks like Colossus and CMM. Kabam even said that themself ;)

    If you cant understand that then your ego is too big.
    Where did they say that? Link to that comment, please.

    All I now is that they confirmed this is exactly how it should work.

    And you're obviously dead wrong in 2 threads simultaneously and you can't admit it and I have a big ego? Nice lmao.
    I dont have the link. Btw you could show me the link where they said this interaction is intended.
    I dont know what you have against an update on the description. Looks like you are just anti me by know. Shows poor character.
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  • 51monPa_51monPa_ Member Posts: 7 ★
    Working as intended.

    It’s like dooms stagger vs cull l1

    Cull activates 10 combo shields at the same time. If stagger active, they all get nullified at once. If no stagger then they can be nullified one by one. Watch seatin abyss run to see this in action

    Next buff doesn’t matter if it’s 1 or 100, if they activate at the same time, that’s the next buff(s)
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    51monPa_ said:

    Working as intended.

    It’s like dooms stagger vs cull l1

    Cull activates 10 combo shields at the same time. If stagger active, they all get nullified at once. If no stagger then they can be nullified one by one. Watch seatin abyss run to see this in action

    Next buff doesn’t matter if it’s 1 or 100, if they activate at the same time, that’s the next buff(s)

    I not sure if that is intended or not by kabam. I would like a link where they say that. Since it was broken lately its hard to find infos.
    I still would like an improved description if they intend that intercation since newer players will prob get suprised by that.
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,839 Guardian
    Is the original complaint (for Colossus) that they are multiple OF THE SAME BUFF ??
    Or is it different types of buffs that each activated at the same time.

    If just multiple stacks of the SAME buff, then there is much better defense of current wording “buff” (don’t care how many stacks all came on at once, think it’s ok to imply that all those new stacks of that one same icon would be removed).

    But if it is multiple different TYPES of simultaneous buffs, then definitely needs to be worded to be more clear.
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    SummonerNR said:

    Is the original complaint (for Colossus) that they are multiple OF THE SAME BUFF ??
    Or is it different types of buffs that each activated at the same time.

    If just multiple stacks of the SAME buff, then there is much better defense of current wording “buff” (don’t care how many stacks all came on at once, think it’s ok to imply that all those new stacks of that one same icon would be removed).

    But if it is multiple different TYPES of simultaneous buffs, then definitely needs to be worded to be more clear.

    I see your point. It was about the same kind of buff here. I dont know if diffrent kind of buffs will be removed as well.
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