Iceman immunity logic

Captain_MaimCaptain_Maim Member Posts: 390 ★
in Suggestions and Requests
I love Iceman. He's a beast. But should he be as good as he is?

It's my opinion that his immunities don't make sense at all.

Bleed immune? Okay.. I could see it.

Poison immune? Not really... If Iceman drinks something with poison in it, why wouldn't he be poisoned? If groot can be poisoned, so can Iceman.

Incinerate immune? That makes no sense. Fire melts ice. Water (liquid) would be immune to incinerate, but ice? Iceman should Not be incinerate immune

Cold immune? Why the heck isnt he cold immune? Playing Iceman vs. Iceman both can have cold snap and frostbite effecting them? That makes no sense at all.


I suggest Iceman be cold immune and that incinerate cause 1.5x damage against Iceman. Poison I could go either way on.

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  • SirnoobSirnoob Member Posts: 952 ★★★
    Organic-Ice Form: Ability to not only cover his body with ice, but to actually become organic ice.[81] Though the appearance is similar, Iceman is now actually translucent in his ice form. Iceman is virtually indestructible in this form, allowing him to reform his body should it become shattered. He has been incinerated while in human form and was able to rebuild himself. In his ice form, he is able to use the moisture in the air to form spikes, shields and attach other extra appendages to his body. It is currently unknown if Bobby would be considered immortal.

    From marvel wiki regarding the others I got no clue as to why something to do with balance


    http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Robert_Drake_(Earth-616)
  • Darth_ShadoDarth_Shado Member Posts: 7 ★
    While he cannot be destroyed by fire in the comics, and can eventually reform, but to even out some of his immunity in the game he should be susceptible to incinerate. As it said should he be shattered he can reform himself, however, that should take out a chunk of health. At least have an incinerate debuff can remove his ice armor temporarily.
  • SirnoobSirnoob Member Posts: 952 ★★★
    Darth_Shado wrote: »
    While he cannot be destroyed by fire in the comics, and can eventually reform, but to even out some of his immunity in the game he should be susceptible to incinerate. As it said should he be shattered he can reform himself, however, that should take out a chunk of health. At least have an incinerate debuff can remove his ice armor temporarily.

    His human form can be he in mcoc he is in organic ice form which is virtually indestructible
  • GrimmbearGrimmbear Member Posts: 639 ★★★
    edited September 2017
    You ever tried to poison ice? It doesn't work. Plus he's an omega level mutant that can freeze anything around him to absolute zero.. the incineration literally wouldn't work as it would freeze before touching him
  • GreywardenGreywarden Member Posts: 843 ★★★★
    better question

    how can you incinerate ghost rider lol
  • GrimmbearGrimmbear Member Posts: 639 ★★★
    Greywarden wrote: »
    better question

    how can you incinerate ghost rider lol

    Fairly certain that GR is consumed by hell fire, a mystical type of fire. So technically (reaching, I know) he's not immune to regular fire/incineration
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  • Captain_MaimCaptain_Maim Member Posts: 390 ★
    Lol. Okay, so we've thrown logic out the window and are just accepting Icemans comic book self, flawed logic and all, as the go to.... That's fine. Still doesn't explain how he isn't immune to coldsnap and frost bite.
  • DemonicStalkerDemonicStalker Member Posts: 336 ★★
    addisonbassist wrote: »
    Iceman is an Omega level mutant... he is practically a god.

    If anything, he is not powerful enough in the game.


    Isn't magneto omega-level as well? Look how good he is in the game..
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    lol @ "logic" in a video game containing comic book superheroes...

    I gave up on applying logic a while ago.
  • SirnoobSirnoob Member Posts: 952 ★★★
    Captain_Maim wrote: »
    Lol. Okay, so we've thrown logic out the window and are just accepting Icemans comic book self, flawed logic and all, as the go to.... That's fine. Still doesn't explain how he isn't immune to coldsnap and frost bite.

    Yo are forgetting something something that beats logic evertime even in a game of magic and where Hyperion can throw Hawkeye into space and Hawkeye not die because marvel this is a seprete uni all together based on marvel also if u really wanna get into things iso 8 affects things diffently
  • Captain_MaimCaptain_Maim Member Posts: 390 ★
    Sirnoob wrote: »

    Yo are forgetting something something that beats logic evertime even in a game of magic and where Hyperion can throw Hawkeye into space and Hawkeye not die because marvel this is a seprete uni all together based on marvel also if u really wanna get into things iso 8 affects things diffently

    Um... Okay... Sorry my Russian isn't very good...
  • SirnoobSirnoob Member Posts: 952 ★★★
    edited September 2017
    Captain_Maim wrote: »
    Sirnoob wrote: »

    Yo are forgetting something something that beats logic evertime even in a game of magic and where Hyperion can throw Hawkeye into space and Hawkeye not die because marvel this is a seprete uni all together based on marvel also if u really wanna get into things iso 8 affects things diffently

    Um... Okay... Sorry my Russian isn't very good...

    Marvel universe plays by a diffrent set of rules and mcoc does the same in this universe there is a element called is 8 that affects things differently logic does not really apply to things when marvel is involved think about it if it did how can I stab rocket with a magik sword and have him get back up and still do full damage to me
  • Captain_MaimCaptain_Maim Member Posts: 390 ★
    DemonicStalker wrote: »


    Isn't magneto omega-level as well? Look how good he is in the game..

    Exactly, @DemonicStalker. There are plenty of examples of characters that should be intensely better than they are. Iceman... While awesome, shouldn't be as good as he is when magneto, Loki, venom, and others are not half as useful.

    If we are going by comic book origins, then magneto should be untouchable by anyone with metal. Obviously this can't happen, but **** man, the least we can do is allow fire to melt ice and cold effects to ineffective. That just makes sense. Plain and simple.
  • Captain_MaimCaptain_Maim Member Posts: 390 ★
    Sirnoob wrote: »
    Captain_Maim wrote: »
    Sirnoob wrote: »

    Yo are forgetting something something that beats logic evertime even in a game of magic and where Hyperion can throw Hawkeye into space and Hawkeye not die because marvel this is a seprete uni all together based on marvel also if u really wanna get into things iso 8 affects things diffently

    Um... Okay... Sorry my Russian isn't very good...

    Marvel universe plays by a diffrent set of rules and mcoc does the same in this universe there is a element called is 8 that affects things differently logic does not really apply to things when marvel is involved think about it if it did how can I stab rocket with a magik sword and have him get back up and still do full damage to me

    Fair point. I'm not asking for perfect logic. Just a 2 year old's logic.
  • SirnoobSirnoob Member Posts: 952 ★★★
    edited September 2017
    Captain_Maim wrote: »
    Sirnoob wrote: »
    Captain_Maim wrote: »
    Sirnoob wrote: »

    Yo are forgetting something something that beats logic evertime even in a game of magic and where Hyperion can throw Hawkeye into space and Hawkeye not die because marvel this is a seprete uni all together based on marvel also if u really wanna get into things iso 8 affects things diffently

    Um... Okay... Sorry my Russian isn't very good...

    Marvel universe plays by a diffrent set of rules and mcoc does the same in this universe there is a element called is 8 that affects things differently logic does not really apply to things when marvel is involved think about it if it did how can I stab rocket with a magik sword and have him get back up and still do full damage to me

    Fair point. I'm not asking for perfect logic. Just a 2 year old's logic.

    Again forgetting the most important thing this is not our universe diffrent universe diffrent rules
  • Captain_MaimCaptain_Maim Member Posts: 390 ★
    @Sirnoob in that case.... He should also be able to fly and breathe fire like a dragon....
  • SirnoobSirnoob Member Posts: 952 ★★★
    edited September 2017
    Captain_Maim wrote: »
    @Sirnoob in that case.... He should also be able to fly and breathe fire like a dragon....

    U would be surprised how many diffrent universes have ridicules things look up squirrel girl or even spiderham
  • CavalierCavalier Member Posts: 246 ★
    I can see fire doing armor break on Iceman but not incinerate. Ice does not catch on fire. It would melt for as long as a heat source is on it, but I challenge any of you to actually catch ice on fire. The moment you take away the fuel for the fire, it would go out, and Ice/water is not a fuel for fire.
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