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Black Widow C vs Sorcerer Sypreme

NysseNysse Member Posts: 11 ★
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So, just got both of them and I’m wondering wich one is better to rank to r4, who will help in the long game. I have never had any rarity of them and never played them, so help is appreciated. Also I have a mystic gem.

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  • King_Leo321King_Leo321 Member Posts: 1,211 ★★★
    edited July 2020
    Use mystic gem on sorceror supreme and master her, Sorcerer supreme is Aegon of mystic class only works for long fights, I have tested her and trust me Sorcerer Supreme is only made for act 6 chapter 2---4, Labrynth,Abyss.

    While Claire works for long fights and short fights as well. You can use Claire in Abyss,Act 6,EQ,Side events,AQ,AW,Act 5, Variant 3,V2(Some paths),Variant 1, Variant 4.

    I say for right now rank up Claire to rank 5 as quickly as you can she is free ticket to become cavalier as well.

    Don't rank up sorcerer supeme unless you mastered her fully.
  • King_Leo321King_Leo321 Member Posts: 1,211 ★★★
    Nysse said:

    So, just got both of them and I’m wondering wich one is better to rank to r4, who will help in the long game. I have never had any rarity of them and never played them, so help is appreciated. Also I have a mystic gem.

    It's all up to you who you like the most playing with.But I prefer Claire Voyant in this situation.
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,768 ★★★★★
    King_Leo321 said:

    Use mystic gem on sorceror supreme and master her, Sorcerer supreme is Aegon of mystic class only works for long fights, I have tested her and trust me Sorcerer Supreme is only made for act 6 chapter 2---4, Labrynth,Abyss.

    While Claire works for long fights and short fights as well. You can use Claire in Abyss,Act 6,EQ,Side events,AQ,AW,Act 5, Variant 3,V2(Some paths),Variant 1, Variant 4.

    I say for right now rank up Claire to rank 5 as quickly as you can she is free ticket to become cavalier as well.

    Don't rank up sorcerer supeme unless you mastered her fully.

    I'd say the title of "The Warlock of the Mystic class" fits Sorcerer Supreme better than Aegon of the Mystic Class.

    I'd say go for Claire, great survivability, immunities, good nullify mechanics and good damage.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,973 ★★★★★
    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    Use mystic gem on sorceror supreme and master her, Sorcerer supreme is Aegon of mystic class only works for long fights, I have tested her and trust me Sorcerer Supreme is only made for act 6 chapter 2---4, Labrynth,Abyss.

    While Claire works for long fights and short fights as well. You can use Claire in Abyss,Act 6,EQ,Side events,AQ,AW,Act 5, Variant 3,V2(Some paths),Variant 1, Variant 4.

    I say for right now rank up Claire to rank 5 as quickly as you can she is free ticket to become cavalier as well.

    Don't rank up sorcerer supeme unless you mastered her fully.

    I'd say the title of "The Warlock of the Mystic class" fits Sorcerer Supreme better than Aegon of the Mystic Class.

    I'd say go for Claire, great survivability, immunities, good nullify mechanics and good damage.
    Sorcerer Supreme is a sort Swiss Army knife, and i totally agree with the Warlock title.
  • King_Leo321King_Leo321 Member Posts: 1,211 ★★★
    edited July 2020
    SpideyFunko said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    Use mystic gem on sorceror supreme and master her, Sorcerer supreme is Aegon of mystic class only works for long fights, I have tested her and trust me Sorcerer Supreme is only made for act 6 chapter 2---4, Labrynth,Abyss.

    While Claire works for long fights and short fights as well. You can use Claire in Abyss,Act 6,EQ,Side events,AQ,AW,Act 5, Variant 3,V2(Some paths),Variant 1, Variant 4.

    I say for right now rank up Claire to rank 5 as quickly as you can she is free ticket to become cavalier as well.

    Don't rank up sorcerer supeme unless you mastered her fully.

    I'd say the title of "The Warlock of the Mystic class" fits Sorcerer Supreme better than Aegon of the Mystic Class.

    I'd say go for Claire, great survivability, immunities, good nullify mechanics and good damage.
    Sorcerer Supreme is a sort Swiss Army knife, and i totally agree with the Warlock title.
    @SpideyFunko @ThatGuyYouSaw235 I have used her as a 5* and I used her I have tested her she really didn't work like warlock. If warlock title really fits her then she would have worked for short fights which she didn't. I can o my saw her shining where ever opponents atleast have 150K+ health.Even 150K is less for her 200K is good enough.

    So what's bothering me do you have Sorcerer Supreme, have you tested her,have you ever plyed with her,how often you use her,do you even know how her runic spells and blessings work.If you really knew how her runic spells work then you would have agreed. But your comment feels like you haven't seen her in her maximum potential.

    Plus you also know what her awakening Abilitiy do it gives her blessings enhanced potency upto 33%.

    You may not know but with her SP3 she can only make one runic spell permanent. And she can stack the debuffs according to he runic spells and current blessings she have.

    Like Aegon can do Uncollected without getting full ramped up same way she can also do Uncollected without ramping her damage cause healthpools are too small.She won't be able to even activate he done Abilitiy perfectly.

    If you think there is some other way to use her, I would love to know that?
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,768 ★★★★★
    edited July 2020
    King_Leo321 said:

    SpideyFunko said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    Use mystic gem on sorceror supreme and master her, Sorcerer supreme is Aegon of mystic class only works for long fights, I have tested her and trust me Sorcerer Supreme is only made for act 6 chapter 2---4, Labrynth,Abyss.

    While Claire works for long fights and short fights as well. You can use Claire in Abyss,Act 6,EQ,Side events,AQ,AW,Act 5, Variant 3,V2(Some paths),Variant 1, Variant 4.

    I say for right now rank up Claire to rank 5 as quickly as you can she is free ticket to become cavalier as well.

    Don't rank up sorcerer supeme unless you mastered her fully.

    I'd say the title of "The Warlock of the Mystic class" fits Sorcerer Supreme better than Aegon of the Mystic Class.

    I'd say go for Claire, great survivability, immunities, good nullify mechanics and good damage.
    Sorcerer Supreme is a sort Swiss Army knife, and i totally agree with the Warlock title.
    @SpideyFunko @ThatGuyYouSaw235 I have used her as a 5* and I used her I have tested her she really didn't work like warlock. If warlock title really fits her then she would have worked for short fights which she didn't. I can o my saw her shining where ever opponents atleast have 150K+ health.Even 150K is less for her 200K is good enough.

    So what's bothering me do you have Sorcerer Supreme, have you tested her,have you ever plyed with her,how often you use her,do you even know how her runic spells and blessings work.If you really knew how her runic spells work then you would have agreed. But your comment feels like you haven't seen her in her maximum potential.

    Plus you also know what her awakening Abilitiy do it gives her blessings enhanced potency upto 33%.

    You may not know but with her SP3 she can only make one runic spell permanent. And she can stack the debuffs according to he runic spells and current blessings she have.

    Like Aegon can do Uncollected without getting full ramped up same way she can also do Uncollected without ramping her damage cause healthpools are too small.She won't be able to even activate he done Abilitiy perfectly.

    If you think there is some other way to use her, I would love to know that?
    We define the title of Warlock of the Mystic class as the character being a Utility God, Nullification, Regeneration on Block, Armour Break, Power Steal, Slow and High Block Proficiency are some of her utilities.

    Sorcerer Supreme doesn't really fit in the Aegon of the Mystic Class, she works more of a Guillotine 2099/Star-Lord of the mystic class than Aegon in that she gets better as she ramps herself up over the course of the fight, but doesn't carry what she has gained over to the next fight. (Guilly doesn't carry over her combo, but rather sets it at 100 for the next fight)

    But even at that, she's mainly a Swiss Army knife, earning her the title of "Warlock of the Mystic Class"
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,768 ★★★★★
    King_Leo321 said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    SpideyFunko said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    Use mystic gem on sorceror supreme and master her, Sorcerer supreme is Aegon of mystic class only works for long fights, I have tested her and trust me Sorcerer Supreme is only made for act 6 chapter 2---4, Labrynth,Abyss.

    While Claire works for long fights and short fights as well. You can use Claire in Abyss,Act 6,EQ,Side events,AQ,AW,Act 5, Variant 3,V2(Some paths),Variant 1, Variant 4.

    I say for right now rank up Claire to rank 5 as quickly as you can she is free ticket to become cavalier as well.

    Don't rank up sorcerer supeme unless you mastered her fully.

    I'd say the title of "The Warlock of the Mystic class" fits Sorcerer Supreme better than Aegon of the Mystic Class.

    I'd say go for Claire, great survivability, immunities, good nullify mechanics and good damage.
    Sorcerer Supreme is a sort Swiss Army knife, and i totally agree with the Warlock title.
    @SpideyFunko @ThatGuyYouSaw235 I have used her as a 5* and I used her I have tested her she really didn't work like warlock. If warlock title really fits her then she would have worked for short fights which she didn't. I can o my saw her shining where ever opponents atleast have 150K+ health.Even 150K is less for her 200K is good enough.

    So what's bothering me do you have Sorcerer Supreme, have you tested her,have you ever plyed with her,how often you use her,do you even know how her runic spells and blessings work.If you really knew how her runic spells work then you would have agreed. But your comment feels like you haven't seen her in her maximum potential.

    Plus you also know what her awakening Abilitiy do it gives her blessings enhanced potency upto 33%.

    You may not know but with her SP3 she can only make one runic spell permanent. And she can stack the debuffs according to he runic spells and current blessings she have.

    Like Aegon can do Uncollected without getting full ramped up same way she can also do Uncollected without ramping her damage cause healthpools are too small.She won't be able to even activate he done Abilitiy perfectly.

    If you think there is some other way to use her, I would love to know that?
    We define the title of Warlock of the Mystic class as the character being a Utility God, Nullification, Regeneration on Block, Armour Break, Power Steal, Slow and High Block Proficiency are some of her utilities.

    Sorcerer Supreme doesn't really fit in the Aegon of the Mystic Class, she works more of a Guillotine 2099/Star-Lord of the mystic class than Aegon in that she gets better as she ramps herself up over the course of the fight, but doesn't carry what she has gained over to the next fight. (Guilly doesn't carry over her combo, but rather sets it at 100 for the next fight)

    But even at that, she's mainly a Swiss Army knife, earning her the title of "Warlock of the Mystic Class"
    @ThatGuyYouSaw235 Everyone AHS different opinions so if you think warlockt hen warlock. I bieve Aegon then it's Aegon. Nothing to fight.
    Fair, just explaining my outlook and why I think it that way
  • King_Leo321King_Leo321 Member Posts: 1,211 ★★★
    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    SpideyFunko said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    Use mystic gem on sorceror supreme and master her, Sorcerer supreme is Aegon of mystic class only works for long fights, I have tested her and trust me Sorcerer Supreme is only made for act 6 chapter 2---4, Labrynth,Abyss.

    While Claire works for long fights and short fights as well. You can use Claire in Abyss,Act 6,EQ,Side events,AQ,AW,Act 5, Variant 3,V2(Some paths),Variant 1, Variant 4.

    I say for right now rank up Claire to rank 5 as quickly as you can she is free ticket to become cavalier as well.

    Don't rank up sorcerer supeme unless you mastered her fully.

    I'd say the title of "The Warlock of the Mystic class" fits Sorcerer Supreme better than Aegon of the Mystic Class.

    I'd say go for Claire, great survivability, immunities, good nullify mechanics and good damage.
    Sorcerer Supreme is a sort Swiss Army knife, and i totally agree with the Warlock title.
    @SpideyFunko @ThatGuyYouSaw235 I have used her as a 5* and I used her I have tested her she really didn't work like warlock. If warlock title really fits her then she would have worked for short fights which she didn't. I can o my saw her shining where ever opponents atleast have 150K+ health.Even 150K is less for her 200K is good enough.

    So what's bothering me do you have Sorcerer Supreme, have you tested her,have you ever plyed with her,how often you use her,do you even know how her runic spells and blessings work.If you really knew how her runic spells work then you would have agreed. But your comment feels like you haven't seen her in her maximum potential.

    Plus you also know what her awakening Abilitiy do it gives her blessings enhanced potency upto 33%.

    You may not know but with her SP3 she can only make one runic spell permanent. And she can stack the debuffs according to he runic spells and current blessings she have.

    Like Aegon can do Uncollected without getting full ramped up same way she can also do Uncollected without ramping her damage cause healthpools are too small.She won't be able to even activate he done Abilitiy perfectly.

    If you think there is some other way to use her, I would love to know that?
    We define the title of Warlock of the Mystic class as the character being a Utility God, Nullification, Regeneration on Block, Armour Break, Power Steal, Slow and High Block Proficiency are some of her utilities.

    Sorcerer Supreme doesn't really fit in the Aegon of the Mystic Class, she works more of a Guillotine 2099/Star-Lord of the mystic class than Aegon in that she gets better as she ramps herself up over the course of the fight, but doesn't carry what she has gained over to the next fight. (Guilly doesn't carry over her combo, but rather sets it at 100 for the next fight)

    But even at that, she's mainly a Swiss Army knife, earning her the title of "Warlock of the Mystic Class"
    @ThatGuyYouSaw235 everyone has different opinions if your think warlock then, I believe Aegon then it's Aegon nothing to fight here.

    I used Aegon cause she have access to insane damage as well. Like yesterday I did 120K SP2 damage and my mediums were also hitting. Both of our points are valid she have utility and she also have damage. I saw her from damage , utility ramp up point of view. You saw her from utility point of view.

    No one is wrong here.
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,768 ★★★★★
    King_Leo321 said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    SpideyFunko said:

    ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

    King_Leo321 said:

    Use mystic gem on sorceror supreme and master her, Sorcerer supreme is Aegon of mystic class only works for long fights, I have tested her and trust me Sorcerer Supreme is only made for act 6 chapter 2---4, Labrynth,Abyss.

    While Claire works for long fights and short fights as well. You can use Claire in Abyss,Act 6,EQ,Side events,AQ,AW,Act 5, Variant 3,V2(Some paths),Variant 1, Variant 4.

    I say for right now rank up Claire to rank 5 as quickly as you can she is free ticket to become cavalier as well.

    Don't rank up sorcerer supeme unless you mastered her fully.

    I'd say the title of "The Warlock of the Mystic class" fits Sorcerer Supreme better than Aegon of the Mystic Class.

    I'd say go for Claire, great survivability, immunities, good nullify mechanics and good damage.
    Sorcerer Supreme is a sort Swiss Army knife, and i totally agree with the Warlock title.
    @SpideyFunko @ThatGuyYouSaw235 I have used her as a 5* and I used her I have tested her she really didn't work like warlock. If warlock title really fits her then she would have worked for short fights which she didn't. I can o my saw her shining where ever opponents atleast have 150K+ health.Even 150K is less for her 200K is good enough.

    So what's bothering me do you have Sorcerer Supreme, have you tested her,have you ever plyed with her,how often you use her,do you even know how her runic spells and blessings work.If you really knew how her runic spells work then you would have agreed. But your comment feels like you haven't seen her in her maximum potential.

    Plus you also know what her awakening Abilitiy do it gives her blessings enhanced potency upto 33%.

    You may not know but with her SP3 she can only make one runic spell permanent. And she can stack the debuffs according to he runic spells and current blessings she have.

    Like Aegon can do Uncollected without getting full ramped up same way she can also do Uncollected without ramping her damage cause healthpools are too small.She won't be able to even activate he done Abilitiy perfectly.

    If you think there is some other way to use her, I would love to know that?
    We define the title of Warlock of the Mystic class as the character being a Utility God, Nullification, Regeneration on Block, Armour Break, Power Steal, Slow and High Block Proficiency are some of her utilities.

    Sorcerer Supreme doesn't really fit in the Aegon of the Mystic Class, she works more of a Guillotine 2099/Star-Lord of the mystic class than Aegon in that she gets better as she ramps herself up over the course of the fight, but doesn't carry what she has gained over to the next fight. (Guilly doesn't carry over her combo, but rather sets it at 100 for the next fight)

    But even at that, she's mainly a Swiss Army knife, earning her the title of "Warlock of the Mystic Class"
    @ThatGuyYouSaw235 everyone has different opinions if your think warlock then, I believe Aegon then it's Aegon nothing to fight here.

    I used Aegon cause she have access to insane damage as well. Like yesterday I did 120K SP2 damage and my mediums were also hitting. Both of our points are valid she have utility and she also have damage. I saw her from damage , utility ramp up point of view. You saw her from utility point of view.

    No one is wrong here.
    True; I mean utility is her main focus, that's why I believe she fits more of as a Warlock of the Mystic Class. I see where you are coming from with the Aegon point, though Guillotine 2099 works better for the point you are trying to make.

    Yes, there are no wrong answers, just answers that fit differently.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,973 ★★★★★
    i can’t believe what I’m seeing
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,768 ★★★★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    i can’t believe what I’m seeing

    Expect a triple rainbow to come
  • BonzodavidBonzodavid Member Posts: 586 ★★★
    To answer the original question, I would reccomend sorcerer supreme if you don't run suicides and Claire if you do. Since Claire really benefits from those masteries and doesn't hit that hard without them.
  • King_Leo321King_Leo321 Member Posts: 1,211 ★★★
    Bonzodavid said:

    To answer the original question, I would reccomend sorcerer supreme if you don't run suicides and Claire if you do. Since Claire really benefits from those masteries and doesn't hit that hard without them.

    @Bonzodavid I use Claire without Suicides works great.
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