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Ghost Crit Bug

SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
edited August 2020 in Bugs and Known Issues
Ghost is supposed to have "guaranteed" crits. This is bugged for ages.
Its happening vs Emma Frost in dimond form and vs Nodes like Oscillate.

This is a clip from today in AW (thats the Mix Master, Oscillite and Aggression Prowess Node 23):

https://youtu.be/H1aN9GIuB8Y

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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Seraphion said:

    Ghost is supposed to have "guaranteed" crits. This is bugged for ages.
    Its happening vs Emma Frost in dimond form and vs Nodes like Oscillate.

    This is a clip from today in AW (thats the Mix Master, Oscillite and Aggression Prowess Node 23):

    https://youtu.be/H1aN9GIuB8Y

    how did you phase? it does not appear that you dashed back in those 2 clips so it appears to be more of an issue that it is phasing you when it should not, which would explain why the first attack was a crit and not the others, but may be something I am not understanding, just going by the champion sheet.
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Seraphion said:

    Ghost is supposed to have "guaranteed" crits. This is bugged for ages.
    Its happening vs Emma Frost in dimond form and vs Nodes like Oscillate.

    This is a clip from today in AW (thats the Mix Master, Oscillite and Aggression Prowess Node 23):

    https://youtu.be/H1aN9GIuB8Y

    how did you phase? it does not appear that you dashed back in those 2 clips so it appears to be more of an issue that it is phasing you when it should not, which would explain why the first attack was a crit and not the others, but may be something I am not understanding, just going by the champion sheet.
    Watch the gameplay again. Put it on 1080.
    100% perfect dashback with normaly 3 guaranteed crits on the SP2.

    On the 2nd SP2 you can see I dashed back correctly by
    1. hit crit
    2. hit no crit (prevented by Oscillate)
    3. hit crit
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Seraphion said:

    Lormif said:

    Seraphion said:

    Ghost is supposed to have "guaranteed" crits. This is bugged for ages.
    Its happening vs Emma Frost in dimond form and vs Nodes like Oscillate.

    This is a clip from today in AW (thats the Mix Master, Oscillite and Aggression Prowess Node 23):

    https://youtu.be/H1aN9GIuB8Y

    how did you phase? it does not appear that you dashed back in those 2 clips so it appears to be more of an issue that it is phasing you when it should not, which would explain why the first attack was a crit and not the others, but may be something I am not understanding, just going by the champion sheet.
    Watch the gameplay again. Put it on 1080.
    100% perfect dashback with normaly 3 guaranteed crits on the SP2.

    On the 2nd SP2 you can see I dashed back correctly by
    1. hit crit
    2. hit no crit (prevented by Oscillate)
    3. hit crit
    I put it on .25% speed and 1080. In the first one you hit, and it appears to say phasing and launch the special at the same time. The second time you parry, attack and then it looks like you launch the special and phase at the same time. There is no dash back animation for a swipe back, before the launch of the sp2 that I can see.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    Crit resistence might be the "issue" here.
    This has already been reported a couple of times. I'm not too sure if guaranteed crits should be affected by it
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    edited August 2020
    The 3rd hit was a crit on the 2nd SP2. This is proof that I didnt failed the dashback SP2.
    @Lormif
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    will-o-wisp said:

    Crit resistence might be the "issue" here.
    This has already been reported a couple of times. I'm not too sure if guaranteed crits should be affected by it

    maybe they need some new infos on that so I thought a video might help
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Seraphion said:

    The 3rd hit was a crit on the 2nd SP2. This is proof that I didnt failed the dashback SP2.
    @Lormif

    special 1/2 hits can crit, and ghost does not only crit when launching from phased, that is just a guaranteed crit. I am just trying to walk through the technical aspect here.
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Seraphion said:

    The 3rd hit was a crit on the 2nd SP2. This is proof that I didnt failed the dashback SP2.
    @Lormif

    special 1/2 hits can crit, and ghost does not only crit when launching from phased, that is just a guaranteed crit. I am just trying to walk through the technical aspect here.
    you are wrong. Ghost can ONLY crit via passive precisions or when you dashback before an SP. No offense but when you dont know Ghost very well you should prob no comment on such a detailed mechanical topic. I dont mean that in a bad way 👍🏻
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Seraphion said:

    Lormif said:

    Seraphion said:

    The 3rd hit was a crit on the 2nd SP2. This is proof that I didnt failed the dashback SP2.
    @Lormif

    special 1/2 hits can crit, and ghost does not only crit when launching from phased, that is just a guaranteed crit. I am just trying to walk through the technical aspect here.
    you are wrong. Ghost can ONLY crit via passive precisions or when you dashback before an SP. No offense but when you dont know Ghost very well you should prob no comment on such a detailed mechanical topic. I dont mean that in a bad way 👍🏻
    you are correct on the critical only oh phasing, I missed that in the phasing section, sorry, but that is why I was questioning.
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Seraphion said:

    Lormif said:

    Seraphion said:

    The 3rd hit was a crit on the 2nd SP2. This is proof that I didnt failed the dashback SP2.
    @Lormif

    special 1/2 hits can crit, and ghost does not only crit when launching from phased, that is just a guaranteed crit. I am just trying to walk through the technical aspect here.
    you are wrong. Ghost can ONLY crit via passive precisions or when you dashback before an SP. No offense but when you dont know Ghost very well you should prob no comment on such a detailed mechanical topic. I dont mean that in a bad way 👍🏻
    you are correct on the critical only oh phasing, I missed that in the phasing section, sorry, but that is why I was questioning.
    No problem :)
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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    HI_guys said:

    Lormif said:

    Seraphion said:

    Lormif said:

    Seraphion said:

    Ghost is supposed to have "guaranteed" crits. This is bugged for ages.
    Its happening vs Emma Frost in dimond form and vs Nodes like Oscillate.

    This is a clip from today in AW (thats the Mix Master, Oscillite and Aggression Prowess Node 23):

    https://youtu.be/H1aN9GIuB8Y

    how did you phase? it does not appear that you dashed back in those 2 clips so it appears to be more of an issue that it is phasing you when it should not, which would explain why the first attack was a crit and not the others, but may be something I am not understanding, just going by the champion sheet.
    Watch the gameplay again. Put it on 1080.
    100% perfect dashback with normaly 3 guaranteed crits on the SP2.

    On the 2nd SP2 you can see I dashed back correctly by
    1. hit crit
    2. hit no crit (prevented by Oscillate)
    3. hit crit
    I put it on .25% speed and 1080. In the first one you hit, and it appears to say phasing and launch the special at the same time. The second time you parry, attack and then it looks like you launch the special and phase at the same time. There is no dash back animation for a swipe back, before the launch of the sp2 that I can see.
    That's how ghost works. The dash back is not all too evident if you immediately launch sp
    dude that is already resolved.
  • UnknownUnknown
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