It's definitely not a secret but I think BWCV is insanely overrated.
with suicides she actually hits decently hard, and her utility is off the charts especially the sig and regen, i dont see how she's overrated unless you dont know how to play her right, she can solo war thing bosses in tier1-2 at r3 6*. but again, we're just saying what we think, its personal preference at the end of the day
People like the ever intelligent HI_guys continue to confuse me saying she's very overrated with me saying she's a bad champion. She's certainly not. I just stand by my main point that her primary reason for being as highly regarded as she is is the fact she's one of the few mystics that not only tolerates but is far better while using suicides.
Without them, her damage and her utility as well are pretty mediocre as her power control and regen are reliant on damage dealt. I'm quite aware how to use her but I just hardly ever use suicides these days and there are other mystics that do mystic things FAR better than she does when not needing immunities. Doom and Magik both power control much better. Sym and Sorcerer both manage buffs better while Sorcerer still has all her sustainability and utility without needing suicides.
She’s like the jack of all trades, and imo she manages buffs really well, you just need a champion immune to her debuffs to get more charges
There's literally 1 piece of content where his painfully long and dull ramp up is worth it, yet people still act like he's a good choice for easier content when you could do all the fights easier with other champs, he's not good in AW or AQ, not to mention he goes back to being worthless if you get clipped cause of lag or a hard to dodge special. Sure he's great at that one piece of content, but in most content he's not as good as you'd believe from the hype around him. Hell, I'd take Venom the Duck over him in most content, at least his ramp up is enjoyable.
Corvus is the only reason I'm able to do AQ itemless (Mostly Map 6). There's a ton of unavoidable degen and Corvus doesn't die from any of it. And in Map 5, he still steamrolls. And even though he's not a stubborn attacker, I use him plenty. What levels are you playing at that you say he's worthless?
I agree that in later parts of Act 6, his stock takes a major hit unless you're running suicides (which I hate).
Usefulness, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. There are too many factors involved to definitively say someone is overrated, imo. Where in the game you are, depth of your roster, skill level. I’ve thought many champs were overrated in the past and then changed my mind as I learned them better. I’ve also thought many champs were gods then learned otherwise as I got more champs ranked up. The only overrated champ is the one you rank up because someone else says it’s amazing but then you never use for whatever reason. But hey, I haven’t completed Abyss yet so my opinion is moot.
wow i guess im the only one who likes thing even without synergies lol. i cheesed the no retreat annihilus with him as well after watching @Karatemike415 's crazy video on it. im not saying hes the best science champ in the game, but he certainly puts some work in for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKW18_hImdY
There's nothing appealing about having to lose all that health to gain fury's. It's not practical. BWCV can do that match faster and come out with 100% health with full suicides.
Thing offensively is the most overrated player in the game but since he's so great on defense he isn't overrated. The most overrated champion in game right now to me is Longshot. He just does what every other mystic champion does who destroys buffs but he's not suicide friendly. I regretted taking him to r4 5 star to be honest.
You're joking, right? Thing is great on offense, with synergies making him better. If 50k special 2s aren't enough for you, then use this team setup.
Thing Heimdall Hela Angela The Champion
These synergies make his damage insane! Imo, Thing is one of the best damage dealers in game
Ps: I have a six star thing
Anybody who needs 4 synergy champs to be useful is not good on offense. Stop it and actually look at everyone you listed. Also, his synergy champs are useless as well which is even worse.
It pays off. Plus, you don't NEED synergies for thing
For him to be effective offensively you do. He doesn't hit hard at all outside of synergies.
You clearly don't have him I think. For daily contents, bring him with Torch to help his ramp quicker and play around a bit till you get 60 passive furies. It is surely not fast but hey Quake isn't fast either. Sp3 while at 20 rockstacks ... Clobbering time. Besides he is immune to nullify and his protection at max sig is crazy. If you run suicide, you ll see his damage is noticeably bigger than warlock. Heimdall, Hela synergy makes his dps among the top if not the top of the game. Edit: Oh you have a 5 and 6* Thing
I already stated that I have him as a 5 star and 6 star. My 5 star is dupped. He's been around for awhile now and I have almost a 2 million rating no need to lie about that. I also bring HT all the time so I'm aware and I don't think that synergy does that much.
wow i guess im the only one who likes thing even without synergies lol. i cheesed the no retreat annihilus with him as well after watching @Karatemike415 's crazy video on it. im not saying hes the best science champ in the game, but he certainly puts some work in for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKW18_hImdY
There's nothing appealing about having to lose all that health to gain fury's. It's not practical. BWCV can do that match faster and come out with 100% health with full suicides.
Thing even without synergies seems pretty viable especially with the fantastic four.
wow i guess im the only one who likes thing even without synergies lol. i cheesed the no retreat annihilus with him as well after watching @Karatemike415 's crazy video on it. im not saying hes the best science champ in the game, but he certainly puts some work in for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKW18_hImdY
There's nothing appealing about having to lose all that health to gain fury's. It's not practical. BWCV can do that match faster and come out with 100% health with full suicides.
Thing even without synergies seems pretty viable especially with the fantastic four.
wow i guess im the only one who likes thing even without synergies lol. i cheesed the no retreat annihilus with him as well after watching @Karatemike415 's crazy video on it. im not saying hes the best science champ in the game, but he certainly puts some work in for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKW18_hImdY
There's nothing appealing about having to lose all that health to gain fury's. It's not practical. BWCV can do that match faster and come out with 100% health with full suicides.
Thing even without synergies seems pretty viable especially with the fantastic four.
If you add the fantastic four that's a synergy.
That’s not the point. You’re the one complaining about thing with the champion synergy. I’m suggesting that he doesn’t need it to be good.
wow i guess im the only one who likes thing even without synergies lol. i cheesed the no retreat annihilus with him as well after watching @Karatemike415 's crazy video on it. im not saying hes the best science champ in the game, but he certainly puts some work in for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKW18_hImdY
There's nothing appealing about having to lose all that health to gain fury's. It's not practical. BWCV can do that match faster and come out with 100% health with full suicides.
Thing even without synergies seems pretty viable especially with the fantastic four.
If you add the fantastic four that's a synergy.
That’s not the point. You’re the one complaining about thing with the champion synergy. I’m suggesting that he doesn’t need it to be good.
The argument is that he's overrated and I stand by that. If you love Thing without synergies good for you.
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I’ve thought many champs were overrated in the past and then changed my mind as I learned them better. I’ve also thought many champs were gods then learned otherwise as I got more champs ranked up.
The only overrated champ is the one you rank up because someone else says it’s amazing but then you never use for whatever reason.
But hey, I haven’t completed Abyss yet so my opinion is moot.