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  • GardenerGardener Member Posts: 1,601 ★★★
    VOTE HERCULES, Kabam will not make him trash
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
    No, I said he would be alright. But alright doesn’t cut it in this game, especially when that involves multiple forms of ramp up.

    But especially when it’s up against a champ that could actually contribute something to to even the largest of rosters

    Also, can we point out that in the concept it talks about ‘skilled play’. That probably means intercepting. Which a lot do people struggle with, and with all the device and AI issues hanging around, that could make the champ literally unusable for a large portion of the playerbase
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    so that means we agree
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    so that means we agree
    Moot I think you’re stuck on repeat. We don’t agree. I’ve already established that. Multiple times
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
    No, I said he would be alright. But alright doesn’t cut it in this game, especially when that involves multiple forms of ramp up.

    But especially when it’s up against a champ that could actually contribute something to to even the largest of rosters

    Also, can we point out that in the concept it talks about ‘skilled play’. That probably means intercepting. Which a lot do people struggle with, and with all the device and AI issues hanging around, that could make the champ literally unusable for a large portion of the playerbase
    it is beneficial for the good people like you and me :D;)

    i asked if you think hercules would be good and you said yes
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★
    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Moot4Life said:

    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    Even in his initial design, he was an alright champion. Not rank 3 worthy by any means, but now he totally is.
    Anyways, vote Omega Sentinel
  • MeebletonMeebleton Member Posts: 552 ★★★
    Moot4Life said:

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
    No, I said he would be alright. But alright doesn’t cut it in this game, especially when that involves multiple forms of ramp up.

    But especially when it’s up against a champ that could actually contribute something to to even the largest of rosters

    Also, can we point out that in the concept it talks about ‘skilled play’. That probably means intercepting. Which a lot do people struggle with, and with all the device and AI issues hanging around, that could make the champ literally unusable for a large portion of the playerbase
    it is beneficial for the good people like you and me :D;)

    i asked if you think hercules would be good and you said yes
    He didn't say that once, stop just repeating the same thing
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    Moot4Life said:

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
    No, I said he would be alright. But alright doesn’t cut it in this game, especially when that involves multiple forms of ramp up.

    But especially when it’s up against a champ that could actually contribute something to to even the largest of rosters

    Also, can we point out that in the concept it talks about ‘skilled play’. That probably means intercepting. Which a lot do people struggle with, and with all the device and AI issues hanging around, that could make the champ literally unusable for a large portion of the playerbase
    it is beneficial for the good people like you and me :D;)

    i asked if you think hercules would be good and you said yes
    Whatever I said, he won’t be as good as Omega Sentinel. And having cross fight ramp up, in fight ramp up, and high skill requirement means he probably won’t be worth the investment for one thing, and probably won’t be enjoyable as a second
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    #OmegaSentinel2021
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★
    Meebleton said:

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
    No, I said he would be alright. But alright doesn’t cut it in this game, especially when that involves multiple forms of ramp up.

    But especially when it’s up against a champ that could actually contribute something to to even the largest of rosters

    Also, can we point out that in the concept it talks about ‘skilled play’. That probably means intercepting. Which a lot do people struggle with, and with all the device and AI issues hanging around, that could make the champ literally unusable for a large portion of the playerbase
    it is beneficial for the good people like you and me :D;)

    i asked if you think hercules would be good and you said yes
    He didn't say that once, stop just repeating the same thing
    He didn't say that once, stop just repeating the same thing
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

    Moot4Life said:

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
    No, I said he would be alright. But alright doesn’t cut it in this game, especially when that involves multiple forms of ramp up.

    But especially when it’s up against a champ that could actually contribute something to to even the largest of rosters

    Also, can we point out that in the concept it talks about ‘skilled play’. That probably means intercepting. Which a lot do people struggle with, and with all the device and AI issues hanging around, that could make the champ literally unusable for a large portion of the playerbase
    it is beneficial for the good people like you and me :D;)

    i asked if you think hercules would be good and you said yes
    Whatever I said, he won’t be as good as Omega Sentinel. And having cross fight ramp up, in fight ramp up, and high skill requirement means he probably won’t be worth the investment for one thing, and probably won’t be enjoyable as a second
    my friend you dont know if he will be as good as omega sentinel

    aegon has high skill requirement and crossfight rampup, look at him
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    so that means we agree
    Moot I think you’re stuck on repeat. We don’t agree. I’ve already established that. Multiple times
    apologies buddy that comment was a mistake
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 6,708 ★★★★★
    Between my first vote not making is past round 1 and the bickering about these 2, I dont much care who makes it in game first because Gabe said they'll all eventually make it in. Lol
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
    No, I said he would be alright. But alright doesn’t cut it in this game, especially when that involves multiple forms of ramp up.

    But especially when it’s up against a champ that could actually contribute something to to even the largest of rosters

    Also, can we point out that in the concept it talks about ‘skilled play’. That probably means intercepting. Which a lot do people struggle with, and with all the device and AI issues hanging around, that could make the champ literally unusable for a large portion of the playerbase
    it is beneficial for the good people like you and me :D;)

    i asked if you think hercules would be good and you said yes
    Whatever I said, he won’t be as good as Omega Sentinel. And having cross fight ramp up, in fight ramp up, and high skill requirement means he probably won’t be worth the investment for one thing, and probably won’t be enjoyable as a second
    my friend you dont know if he will be as good as omega sentinel

    aegon has high skill requirement and crossfight rampup, look at him
    Ægon does not have a high skill requirement. It’s literally just ‘get hit’, which is kind of the premise of the game

    And Ægon is only incredibly good in 2 pieces of content which he was practically made for. He’s good elsewhere, but not nearly the top option
  • Moot4LifeMoot4Life Member Posts: 2,132 ★★★★

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    You know who Hercules sounds like?

    Air Walker. And we know what he’s like. Hercules needs to ramp up in the quest and presumably the fight, and sounds like damage with little utility.

    Utility makes the champ. Do you really want a mix of Cull Obsidians ramp up and proximal missions? Really? No!

    Omega sentinel doesn’t ramp up across the quest, is in a class that needs good champs more, has regeneration, and sounds like she’ll have adaptable utility through her nanites. You know who she sounds like? Warlock and Guillotine 2099. The 2nd and 3rd best tech champs

    This is a clear choice people. Omega Sentinel. She’ll actually be a good champ

    we dont know the numbers though
    Even in concept, utility is much more valuable than damage. Someone with serviceable damage like Warlock gets used a ton in stuff like act 6

    Someone like cull who has one of the highest damage outputs in game barely sees any play, firstly because of his ramp up (which Hercules will have), his block proficiency, and his lack of utility.
    so what if the regeneration is 1% health and utility is only applicable as defender
    If it’s only applicable as a defender it’s not utility. Hercules could be a defender. All we have to go off is what we’re presented with, anything past that is a false assumption

    And what we know is Hercules will have in fight and cross fight ramp up, with lots of buffs, which usually corresponds to damage.

    Omega sentinel we know can use an in fight currency with no ramp up to access regeneration and difficult types of tech, which suggests utilising things like heal block, power drain etc. A bit like Punisher 99
    well we still dont know the numbers so utility could be trash and hercules damage could be insane vice versa. i get what you are saying though but it is hard to tell.

    i agree utility is better than damage but punisher 2099 is not a good example of that lol
    I mean, @StevieManWonder is going to take his Punisher 2099 to R3 as a 6*, and he’s a more experienced, more accomplished, and better player than me, so I wouldn’t judge P99 so hastily if I were you
    i mean because in his initial design he was trash
    That was from 2017, we’re talking about 2021 here. Standards are very different now
    so then how will they make hercules trash like air-walker
    Because Air Walker is a 2020 champ that only came out a couple of months ago

    In comparison, you’re arguing a champ will be as good as a 2017 champ. That’s a 3 year difference in your comparison. If you were comparing 2020 punisher 2099 that would be fair enough, but specifying 2017 Pun99 utterly invalidated your argument
    there are 2017 champs that are good...
    and they wont make summoners choice champion bad....
    i think YOUR argument is invalid my friend
    Yeah, there are. So...your original point about being like Pun99 is a bad thing your now saying might be a good thing.

    Your argument is an enjoyable rollercoaster

    And really, they won’t screw it up? I don’t think they will, but Omega sentinel can be much better than Hercules. And the track record on cosmics that ramp up across the quest this year has been...abysmal.
    sorry i dont think you are understanding what im saying. i was saying that punisher 2099 is a bad example.

    so we agree that hercules will be good
    Yeah he’ll probably be alright, just a pain to play and have little actual practical uses, and would just be an inferior champ to what Omega sentinel could be

    Vote omega sentinel. It’s the smart decision. Listen to your head, not your heart.
    you dont know that

    no thanks
    We don’t know that’s how he won’t be. And of the information we have right now he looks like that.
    but you just said you agreed
    No, I said he would be alright. But alright doesn’t cut it in this game, especially when that involves multiple forms of ramp up.

    But especially when it’s up against a champ that could actually contribute something to to even the largest of rosters

    Also, can we point out that in the concept it talks about ‘skilled play’. That probably means intercepting. Which a lot do people struggle with, and with all the device and AI issues hanging around, that could make the champ literally unusable for a large portion of the playerbase
    it is beneficial for the good people like you and me :D;)

    i asked if you think hercules would be good and you said yes
    Whatever I said, he won’t be as good as Omega Sentinel. And having cross fight ramp up, in fight ramp up, and high skill requirement means he probably won’t be worth the investment for one thing, and probably won’t be enjoyable as a second
    my friend you dont know if he will be as good as omega sentinel

    aegon has high skill requirement and crossfight rampup, look at him
    Ægon does not have a high skill requirement. It’s literally just ‘get hit’, which is kind of the premise of the game

    And Ægon is only incredibly good in 2 pieces of content which he was practically made for. He’s good elsewhere, but not nearly the top option
    yes but if you get hit with other champions it does not matter as much than it does with aegon

    he is still a top tier champion, i would KILL for an aegon
  • Duke_SilverDuke_Silver Member Posts: 2,421 ★★★★
    THE TIME FOR OMEGA SENTINEL IS NOW
  • GAMEOVERJamesGAMEOVERJames Member Posts: 907 ★★★
    Hercules for sure!
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    edited December 2020
    At least we tried...
    sorry for reviving this thread but I needed to express my sadness
  • FluffyPigMonsterFluffyPigMonster Member Posts: 2,069 ★★★★★
    It would be funny if Omega Sentinel is the first champ of 2021
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