Archangel or iceman who was better

JishnuJishnu Member Posts: 1
edited October 2017 in General Discussion

Archangel or iceman who was better 23 votes

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Comments

  • vinniegainzvinniegainz Member Posts: 902 ★★★
    Different strengths based on different scenarios. Iceman is generally better all around but AA can deal massive damage and can be better in some scenarios.
  • Cosmic_Ray13Cosmic_Ray13 Member Posts: 302 ★
    Please tell me
    I LOVE AA!!!
  • NormanBJJNormanBJJ Member Posts: 301 ★★
    Iceman if you run suicides, AA if you go against champs that trigger annoying abilities. Don't forget, AA can stop evade too, not right away like Iceman can but still..
  • TellthemIAMTellthemIAM Member Posts: 169 ★
    I use iceman in AW attack and he’s great! Gets rid of spidey and NC evade right at the start of the fight if he’s duped. He can take a lot of punishment if you make a mistake with his ice armor. AA is definitely better for burst damage but Iceman does have his frostbite charges that can amplify his damage.
  • DrOctavius2_2DrOctavius2_2 Member Posts: 433 ★★
    Wish there was a way to flag the spammers who flag everything
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    AA can deal insane damage on attack, but is a bit of a glass cannon that relies on bleed. One fight against immunity will show how weak he can be and how quickly he can die.

    Based on my limited use of Iceman in 3* arena, I prefer Ice over AA. But since I only have AA as a 4*, he got pushed to R5.
  • AxeCopFireAxeCopFire Member Posts: 1,115 ★★★
    Please tell me
    Please tell me
  • Vossler77Vossler77 Member Posts: 683 ★★
    Iceman. Triple immunity. No evade abilities at start of fight. Great damage. Armor.
  • ZombieDude1234ZombieDude1234 Member Posts: 66 ★
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    I didn’t vote because both the answers are please tell me. I vote Archangel because of bleed and other damages like that. I have 4 star and he’s super annoying to fight.
  • ZombieDude1234ZombieDude1234 Member Posts: 66 ★
    Please tell me
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    AA can deal insane damage on attack, but is a bit of a glass cannon that relies on bleed. One fight against immunity will show how weak he can be and how quickly he can die.

    Based on my limited use of Iceman in 3* arena, I prefer Ice over AA. But since I only have AA as a 4*, he got pushed to R5.

    I agree but mostly those kind of champs are techs and usually we don’t use a mutant against a tech unless we have to
  • ZombieDude1234ZombieDude1234 Member Posts: 66 ★
    Please tell me
    I try not to anyway
  • BasicChampBasicChamp Member Posts: 97 ★
    Both are great but Ice is priority one.
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    edited October 2017
    ZombieDude1234 wrote: »
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    AA can deal insane damage on attack, but is a bit of a glass cannon that relies on bleed. One fight against immunity will show how weak he can be and how quickly he can die.

    Based on my limited use of Iceman in 3* arena, I prefer Ice over AA. But since I only have AA as a 4*, he got pushed to R5.

    I agree but mostly those kind of champs are techs and usually we don’t use a mutant against a tech unless we have to

    Also have to include poison immunity because you need to inflict both in order to get neurotoxin and generate the serious damage. Bleed itself really isn't that great (maybe 65-70 health per tick), but it's needed to proc poison and ultimately neuro.

    Means champs like Luke Cage, all versions of Hulk, most Cosmics, Colossus & Unstop. Colossus, Dorm, Iceman, Mephisto. And also champs that can shake debuffs quickly (Beast, OML, AV, Xbones, Kingpin). Plus whatever immunity nodes you face in AQ/AW/quests.

    As someone who uses AA fairly regularly (in a very bleed-dependent team), I run into immunity more times than I thought I would.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,841 Guardian
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    ZombieDude1234 wrote: »
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    AA can deal insane damage on attack, but is a bit of a glass cannon that relies on bleed. One fight against immunity will show how weak he can be and how quickly he can die.

    Based on my limited use of Iceman in 3* arena, I prefer Ice over AA. But since I only have AA as a 4*, he got pushed to R5.

    I agree but mostly those kind of champs are techs and usually we don’t use a mutant against a tech unless we have to

    Also have to include poison immunity because you need to inflict both in order to get neurotoxin and generate the serious damage. Bleed itself really isn't that great (maybe 65-70 health per tick), but it's needed to proc poison and ultimately neuro.

    Means champs like Luke Cage, all versions of Hulk, most Cosmics, Colossus & Unstop. Colossus, Dorm, Iceman, Mephisto. And also champs that can shake debuffs quickly (Beast, OML, AV, Xbones, Kingpin). Plus whatever immunity nodes you face in AQ/AW/quests.

    As someone who uses AA fairly regularly (in a very bleed-dependent team), I run into immunity more times than I thought I would.

    Add to that list Rogue (for some reason she is often forgotten when it comes to debuff reductions) and Ant-Man (glancing makes it hard to stack debuffs).

    And then there's Cable and his funky reactions to poison and bleed. He's not immune to either, but each poison stack reduces the duration of poison stacks right up to zero, and every time you place a bleed on him he places a degen on you.

    And of course you can't go ham on BPCW because of the neurotoxin stuns, so that can limit your damage against him by a bit.
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