Let’s settle the Domino Debate.

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  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,916 ★★★★★
    Domino is a top 15 mutant.
    FiiNCH said:

    Moot4Life said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Etjama said:

    Omega Red
    Magneto
    Archangel
    Apocalypse
    Colossus
    Havok
    Sunspot
    Namor
    Emma Frost
    Professor X
    Domino

    So #11

    Rationale for ranking Emma higher than domino?

    Domino is a better defender - that’s undeniable.
    Domino is a much better quest lane clearer (with the trinity) than Emma. Emma has the immunities, but that’s all I’d say she’s beating domino on.
    You need 3 champions for that though
    Also Emma immunities come in handy a lot, and she can take a lot of hits along with many other utilities
    Yeah I hear you on the requirement for additional champs (although I never mind bringing rhulk anywhere with me). I have them both (domino 6* rank 2 & Emma 5* rank 5) and I use domino with the trinity FAR more than Emma.

    I’d also argue the trinity has more general content usage than havok as well (niche matchups aside).
    I’ve got a 6* R2 Domino who never gets used, and a 5/65 Emma that comes with me every war, AQ if she isn’t in war, and was used a ton in Act 7. Domino hasn’t touched any of that content for me
  • EpistriatusEpistriatus Member Posts: 1,251 ★★★★
    If possible, deleted from the game would be the prefered choice.
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,964 ★★★★★
    edited December 2020
    Domino is a top 25 mutant.
    I’ll ask the question everyone’s thinking
    Where’s the “last place” option?
  • SungjSungj Member Posts: 2,113 ★★★★★
    Domino is a top 15 mutant.
    FiiNCH said:



    Domino is a better defender - that’s undeniable.
    Domino is a much better quest lane clearer (with the trinity) than Emma. Emma has the immunities, but that’s all I’d say she’s beating domino on.

    I used my rank 4 Emma more in exploring act 6 than I did my rank 5 Domino. The simple fact is Domino without the trinity is undeniably not a top ten mutant and even with synergies there's not that many situations in end game content where she is needed or even a top option.

    Emma on the other hand even though she was at a lower rank was more useful to me and would be more useful to a lot of players because the utility she does have is unique and she's a solid champion all around. You underestimate the value of immunities and emma has more relevant immunities than any other champion in the entire game. The stun immunity in diamod form is especially useful against certain nodes and criminally underrated. She's also a solid evade counter, counters reverse controls and has taunts that can bypass all or nothing.

    She literally has maybe 5 times the utility that Domino does if not more and her damage output is nothing to scoff at either. If you're a skilled player and could only use emma frost or domino to try completing/exploring as much of act 6 as possible you'd have a significantly better time doing it with Emma frost
  • Rouger4Rouger4 Member Posts: 633 ★★★
    Domino is a top 15 mutant.
    Clicked this option by mistake she’s top somewhere between 15 and 20 IMO
  • MaxGamingMaxGaming Member Posts: 3,211 ★★★★★
    Domino is a top 20 mutant.
    Etjama said:

    Guys, can we just leave Domino alone? She's had enough 😢


    Domino is a He?!
  • Tiger360Tiger360 Member Posts: 1,696 ★★★★

    Tiger360 said:

    She’s easily top 10 people just hate on her for the sake of hating on her

    Omega Red
    Magneto
    Archangel
    Colossus
    Apocalypse
    Sunspot
    Professor X
    Weapon X
    Havok
    Namor
    Emma Frost
    She’s above Emma Frost easily. Id argue Namor too.
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    edited December 2020
    Domino is a top 15 mutant.
    Tiger360 said:

    Tiger360 said:

    She’s easily top 10 people just hate on her for the sake of hating on her

    Omega Red
    Magneto
    Archangel
    Colossus
    Apocalypse
    Sunspot
    Professor X
    Weapon X
    Havok
    Namor
    Emma Frost
    She’s above Emma Frost easily. Id argue Namor too.
    Emma's got far more utility and hits hard reliably. Namor is better for passive damage than any other champ in the game and hits extremely hard with his Imperious Rex cycle. Domino hits insanely hard... sometimes. And she doesn't have reliable utility.
  • naikavonnaikavon Member Posts: 299 ★★★
    Let me fix these whack lists:

    Colossus
    OR
    Magneto


    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    ......
    The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

    Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

    Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    Domino is a top 15 mutant.

    naikavon said:

    Let me fix these whack lists:

    Colossus
    OR
    Magneto


    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    ......
    The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

    Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

    Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.

    Colossus over Magneto and Omega? What are you on mate?
    What he said. And also, good thing which champs you'd bring in blind has nothing to do with it. A champ should be rated on how much they can do in this game effectively, and how effectively they work in those areas.
  • naikavonnaikavon Member Posts: 299 ★★★

    naikavon said:

    naikavon said:

    Let me fix these whack lists:

    Colossus
    OR
    Magneto


    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    ......
    The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

    Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

    Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.

    Colossus over Magneto and Omega? What are you on mate?
    I would ask you the same. Mags is great.... against metal. OR is great with suicides. He's just good without them. Colossus shines with our without. In my mind, that makes him better than both. I have them all, Colossus is used almost everywhere all the time. The others, not so much. That's value.
    I’ve got them all at 5/65. Mags and Omega get used literally everywhere. Colossus sits on defence. Omega is still the best mutant without suicides. Pre nerf Act 6 100% taught me that. Mags might only counter metal champs but the metal tag covers most of the annoying champs in the game. You don’t need to counter a champ like iron fist
    Interesting. I used Colossus everywhere in act 6. ( OR was there as well but primarily just as a synergy partner) And pretty liberally in book 2. Mags was used more than OR by a fair margin as well. I don't participate in war anymore so OR loses value from that for me.

    Anyway, I ain't trying to change anyone's mind. To each their own. Just seeing a lot of folks sleeping on Colossus. He's without question top 3, you can quibble about position within that but that's preference and experience using champs.

    This is more for people who think he's not top 3. They whack
  • naikavonnaikavon Member Posts: 299 ★★★
    Etjama said:

    naikavon said:

    naikavon said:

    Let me fix these whack lists:

    Colossus
    OR
    Magneto


    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    ......
    The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

    Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

    Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.

    Colossus over Magneto and Omega? What are you on mate?
    I would ask you the same. Mags is great.... against metal. OR is great with suicides. He's just good without them. Colossus shines with our without. In my mind, that makes him better than both. I have them all, Colossus is used almost everywhere all the time. The others, not so much. That's value.
    "He needs suicides" is not an argument. First of all, no he doesn't. Second of all, I could just as easily say "Colossus needs synergies, therefore he's not as good as the other Mutants."
    Well maybe you hear it cause it's true. I didn't say he needed suicides. I simply spoke the truth... he's far better with them and NOT AS GOOD without them. Them's facts.

  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    Domino is a top 15 mutant.
    naikavon said:

    Etjama said:

    naikavon said:

    naikavon said:

    Let me fix these whack lists:

    Colossus
    OR
    Magneto


    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    ......
    The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

    Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

    Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.

    Colossus over Magneto and Omega? What are you on mate?
    I would ask you the same. Mags is great.... against metal. OR is great with suicides. He's just good without them. Colossus shines with our without. In my mind, that makes him better than both. I have them all, Colossus is used almost everywhere all the time. The others, not so much. That's value.
    "He needs suicides" is not an argument. First of all, no he doesn't. Second of all, I could just as easily say "Colossus needs synergies, therefore he's not as good as the other Mutants."
    Well maybe you hear it cause it's true. I didn't say he needed suicides. I simply spoke the truth... he's far better with them and NOT AS GOOD without them. Them's facts.

    That is true, but it doesn't make him any worse of a champ. It should have no effect on where he stands in the Mutant class. If it did, Colossus shouldn't be nearly as high as you have him either due to his reliance on synergies.
  • naikavonnaikavon Member Posts: 299 ★★★
    Etjama said:

    naikavon said:

    Etjama said:

    naikavon said:

    naikavon said:

    Let me fix these whack lists:

    Colossus
    OR
    Magneto


    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    ......
    The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

    Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

    Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.

    Colossus over Magneto and Omega? What are you on mate?
    I would ask you the same. Mags is great.... against metal. OR is great with suicides. He's just good without them. Colossus shines with our without. In my mind, that makes him better than both. I have them all, Colossus is used almost everywhere all the time. The others, not so much. That's value.
    "He needs suicides" is not an argument. First of all, no he doesn't. Second of all, I could just as easily say "Colossus needs synergies, therefore he's not as good as the other Mutants."
    Well maybe you hear it cause it's true. I didn't say he needed suicides. I simply spoke the truth... he's far better with them and NOT AS GOOD without them. Them's facts.

    That is true, but it doesn't make him any worse of a champ. It should have no effect on where he stands in the Mutant class. If it did, Colossus shouldn't be nearly as high as you have him either due to his reliance on synergies.
    To say it should have no effect is a bit much. I mean I factor in Colossus needing synergies so...

    They aren't the same. You can't argue OR is better and then say having to bring him is a detriment lol.

    Anyway, none of it matters. We judge based on our own experiences and since Colossus wrecked pre-nerf act 6 for me and continues to in book 2 and pretty much everywhere is why I hold him so high obviously your experiences are different. And that is OK. But those who rank him lower than 3... They're just wrong. Experience be dammed lol
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    edited December 2020
    Domino is a top 15 mutant.
    Previous message reappeared
  • naikavonnaikavon Member Posts: 299 ★★★
    Etjama said:

    naikavon said:

    naikavon said:

    naikavon said:

    Let me fix these whack lists:

    Colossus
    OR
    Magneto


    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    ......
    The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

    Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

    Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.

    Colossus over Magneto and Omega? What are you on mate?
    I would ask you the same. Mags is great.... against metal. OR is great with suicides. He's just good without them. Colossus shines with our without. In my mind, that makes him better than both. I have them all, Colossus is used almost everywhere all the time. The others, not so much. That's value.
    I’ve got them all at 5/65. Mags and Omega get used literally everywhere. Colossus sits on defence. Omega is still the best mutant without suicides. Pre nerf Act 6 100% taught me that. Mags might only counter metal champs but the metal tag covers most of the annoying champs in the game. You don’t need to counter a champ like iron fist
    Interesting. I used Colossus everywhere in act 6. ( OR was there as well but primarily just as a synergy partner) And pretty liberally in book 2. Mags was used more than OR by a fair margin as well. I don't participate in war anymore so OR loses value from that for me.

    Anyway, I ain't trying to change anyone's mind. To each their own. Just seeing a lot of folks sleeping on Colossus. He's without question top 3, you can quibble about position within that but that's preference and experience using champs.

    This is more for people who think he's not top 3. They whack
    I’m not convinced he’s top 3. He has literally been sidelined for me since the moment I ranked him up. I was told he was this incredible champ, he seemed pretty good, so I took him to 5/65, and he just sits there. He did nothing in act 6 for me, or book 2, war, variants. The only time I ever use him is map 5 AQ. He’s got great damage, but he just does nothing utility wise I don’t have Brett more specialist options for

    If you think he’s top 3 fine, but I’m on here a lot and I’ve still yet to hear a convincing argument. Certainly not in my experience
    Ditto here. Not even bothering to R2 my 6*. He's got immunities, but he doesn't do anything special or unique, he just kinda excels at the average things that any champ can do which just isn't enough for me. I'd take OR, Mags, or AA over him any day.
    Nothing unique or special? Ok, so now I know it's one of two things:

    either you are trolling or you legitimately forgot about his ability to completely take away the opponents ability to crit.

    Last I checked, not a whole lot of champs have that in their kit. Pretty unique.

    Let me just add that my profile pick isn't just for looks. I love using Doom (interestingly another crit resistance guy...a pattern I sense) and suicides ain't exactly his friend ya know, so OR ain't as impressive as the comrade.

    Again, I ain't trying to convince anyone. I only correct wrong statements.
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    Domino is a top 15 mutant.
    naikavon said:

    Etjama said:

    naikavon said:

    naikavon said:

    naikavon said:

    Let me fix these whack lists:

    Colossus
    OR
    Magneto


    Archangel
    Apoc
    Prof X
    ......
    The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

    Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

    Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.

    Colossus over Magneto and Omega? What are you on mate?
    I would ask you the same. Mags is great.... against metal. OR is great with suicides. He's just good without them. Colossus shines with our without. In my mind, that makes him better than both. I have them all, Colossus is used almost everywhere all the time. The others, not so much. That's value.
    I’ve got them all at 5/65. Mags and Omega get used literally everywhere. Colossus sits on defence. Omega is still the best mutant without suicides. Pre nerf Act 6 100% taught me that. Mags might only counter metal champs but the metal tag covers most of the annoying champs in the game. You don’t need to counter a champ like iron fist
    Interesting. I used Colossus everywhere in act 6. ( OR was there as well but primarily just as a synergy partner) And pretty liberally in book 2. Mags was used more than OR by a fair margin as well. I don't participate in war anymore so OR loses value from that for me.

    Anyway, I ain't trying to change anyone's mind. To each their own. Just seeing a lot of folks sleeping on Colossus. He's without question top 3, you can quibble about position within that but that's preference and experience using champs.

    This is more for people who think he's not top 3. They whack
    I’m not convinced he’s top 3. He has literally been sidelined for me since the moment I ranked him up. I was told he was this incredible champ, he seemed pretty good, so I took him to 5/65, and he just sits there. He did nothing in act 6 for me, or book 2, war, variants. The only time I ever use him is map 5 AQ. He’s got great damage, but he just does nothing utility wise I don’t have Brett more specialist options for

    If you think he’s top 3 fine, but I’m on here a lot and I’ve still yet to hear a convincing argument. Certainly not in my experience
    Ditto here. Not even bothering to R2 my 6*. He's got immunities, but he doesn't do anything special or unique, he just kinda excels at the average things that any champ can do which just isn't enough for me. I'd take OR, Mags, or AA over him any day.
    Nothing unique or special? Ok, so now I know it's one of two things:

    either you are trolling or you legitimately forgot about his ability to completely take away the opponents ability to crit.

    Last I checked, not a whole lot of champs have that in their kit. Pretty unique.

    Let me just add that my profile pick isn't just for looks. I love using Doom (interestingly another crit resistance guy...a pattern I sense) and suicides ain't exactly his friend ya know, so OR ain't as impressive as the comrade.

    Again, I ain't trying to convince anyone. I only correct wrong statements.
    Am I missing how crit resistance is supposed to be a valuable ability? And what the heck does Doom and suicides suddenly have to do with it? How am I the one that's supposed to be trolling here?
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