Rogue's SP1 and Hyperion's SP2

GurgismashGurgismash Member Posts: 53
edited January 2021 in Bugs and Known Issues
Rogue is my #1 champ, but as the number of random new buffs increases, her SP1 just doesn't interact with a lot of them.
Effects like Rage should theoretically give her Fury or Rage, no?
Most importantly, Prowess doesn't effect her SP1. It's quite difficult to steal 7 prowess buffs and then pull off another SP1, and it's so not cool when she is only able to lifesteal her normal 1,500. Fury improves her lifesteal, why doesn't prowess?
There might be some other buffs recently added that she doesn't interact with...I understand why she can't steal Dr Doom's aura (although that would be sweet), but I feel like in cases like that maybe she should get something else instead.
What about unblockables?

Secondly, Hype's SP2 stretches the entire screen to where you can't evade the 2nd hit by dodging twice at the beginning. Is this by design? Cuz it messes me up a lot, because I can't go backwards even though I'm not against the wall. I have to wait for his first hit then wait for the second hit and dodge it as if it were a projectile. I'm okay if he's "faster than a speeding bullet" by design, but if it's not intentional...it's annoying.

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  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★
    edited January 2021
    Doom’s Aura is a passive, not a buff, therefore cannot be stolen. That might be where the confusion is coming from. Hyperion has a fairly easy to dodge L2. Just keep backing up and you’re fine. Don’t be afraid to just spam dash backs. It is a timing thing when you are against a wall though, so I would familiarize yourself with the timing of Hyperion’s specials or bring Rogue to steal his power gain. Edit: the only buffs she cannot steal are buffs belonging to tech champions and any unstoppable buffs.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    I got wrecked by Gwenperion's SP 2 in act 7. Thought I outranged it, but got hit by a 1 million hit through my block...
  • GurgismashGurgismash Member Posts: 53

    Doom’s Aura is a passive, not a buff, therefore cannot be stolen. That might be where the confusion is coming from. Hyperion has a fairly easy to dodge L2. Just keep backing up and you’re fine. Don’t be afraid to just spam dash backs. It is a timing thing when you are against a wall though, so I would familiarize yourself with the timing of Hyperion’s specials or bring Rogue to steal his power gain. Edit: the only buffs she cannot steal are buffs belonging to tech champions and any unstoppable buffs.

    So the thing with Hyperion is that during his SP2, you are "against the wall" no matter where you are on the screen. His second hit works like a projectile attack that goes all the way across the screen. In order to dodge it, you have to wait until he's done with the first hit, and then dash back when he charges. You cannot dash back twice at the beginning and be out of range. This is strange for a physical attack, also, it's weird that I can't dash back to the empty space on the screen behind me.

    As for Rogue, she can steal prowess but it doesn't seem to effect her SP1 damage. That's the #1 issue.

    She can steal armor up, regen, precision, cruelty, resistances, and fury. However, there are a number of new champions that have other buffs (maybe they are passives?) that can't be stolen, like Namor's rage (which is weird, cuz it's the same thing as Fury just a different name). True strike can't be stolen either, but that kinda makes sense.



  • World EaterWorld Eater Member Posts: 3,777 ★★★★★
    edited January 2021
    There are a handful of buffs that Rogue wont copy, some highlighted in this thread. Kabam has stated shes unable to copy unstoppable and indestructible buffs, but have never given any info about the other buffs she can't copy:

    Rout, Evade, Cosmic Control Rod, Ice Armor, True Damage, True Strike, etc...

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/138921/unstealable-buffs#latest

    More recently, she was unable to copy Dragon Mans power charge buff.
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