Why does MAGNETO suffer from the delusion applied by the negative mr?

NasDSlayerNasDSlayer Member Posts: 39
edited May 2021 in General Discussion
Lets correct. Because while he is wearing the helmet he does not suffer mental control, delirium, any type of attack in that area does not hit him.

Mr negative: Empowering the Person / Corrupting Touch: Mr. Negative's "touch" has brainwashing and corrupting properties: his touch can change people's personality and temperament and make them serve their interests.

We would need to be hit in order for his ability to be activated. And this is not the case here. It reverses control even without having hit a single blow when releasing a special attack.

This is wrong. Without hitting MAGNETO, mr. NEGATIVE should not reverse the controls.

I think this needs correction. The word "touch" represents a lot in this case.

You will correct the shang-chi. Take advantage and correct this error on the magneto.

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  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,955 ★★★★★


    no touch required
  • NasDSlayerNasDSlayer Member Posts: 39



    no touch required

    I read your file. And for me it is not right. Not to mention that the debuff of the delirium, appears several times in the fight, even when there is no contact.
  • Agent_X_zzzAgent_X_zzz Member Posts: 4,498 ★★★★★
    Nocko said:

    Is delirium a mental attack, or is is corrupting the energy around the attacker?
    Also i dont care... he's not immune, because he's not immune... i dont really think we need to go too in-depth with it

    Typically its considered a mental attack
  • Dumal2015Dumal2015 Member Posts: 5
    I believe Magneto’s ability is not working correctly.
    Last month I use him against the Grandmaster and he still got reverse controls on that fight
  • Player_SlasherPlayer_Slasher Member Posts: 156 ★★
    Having #Psychic Shielding tag does not make you immune to reversed controls. So champs like Magneto, Juggs, Stryfe etc. will still be affected by Delirium.

    Champs that are actually immune to reversed controls: Prof X, Sinister, Emma (synergy w/ Mysterio), Mysterio (synergy w/ Emma). These champs or Disorient will shut down Delirium.
  • AMS94AMS94 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★★
    edited May 2021

    Magneto isnt reverse control immune and never was. He’s physic shielding meaning he’s immune to abilities that explicitly mention physic shielding champs ignoring said abilities. Take Emma Frost’s awakened ability for example:

    “When Emma uses a special attack, the opponents controls are reversed until just after the end of the attack. This will not trigger when fighting an opponent with #Physic Shielding”

    Delirium itself is a mental/psychic attack ability like Emma's....u'd know if u remember the delirium node from 6.1.6 & map 7 which doesn't affect robots & champs with psychic shielding
    Delirium is a medical term & is linked with confusion due to mental issues
    So technically since magneto, stryfe, juggernaut etc & robots are immune to delirium node in mcoc, they should be immune to delirium debuff as well bcoz the defender shouldn't be able to attack their minds
  • AMS94AMS94 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★★
    Dumal2015 said:

    I believe Magneto’s ability is not working correctly.
    Last month I use him against the Grandmaster and he still got reverse controls on that fight

    Magneto isn't immune to reverse controls.... he's immune to psychic attacks
    GM fight just has reverse controls so magneto isn't a good option fr that
    U cn use ProfX, Sinister, or Mysterio with Emma synergy
  • Iron_Patriot_is_litIron_Patriot_is_lit Member Posts: 1,860 ★★★★★
    Magneto is working perfectly fine.
  • Raichu626Raichu626 Member Posts: 934 ★★★★
    AMS94 said:

    Magneto isnt reverse control immune and never was. He’s physic shielding meaning he’s immune to abilities that explicitly mention physic shielding champs ignoring said abilities. Take Emma Frost’s awakened ability for example:

    “When Emma uses a special attack, the opponents controls are reversed until just after the end of the attack. This will not trigger when fighting an opponent with #Physic Shielding”

    Delirium itself is a mental/psychic attack ability like Emma's....u'd know if u remember the delirium node from 6.1.6 & map 7 which doesn't affect robots & champs with psychic shielding
    Delirium is a medical term & is linked with confusion due to mental issues
    So technically since magneto, stryfe, juggernaut etc & robots are immune to delirium node in mcoc, they should be immune to delirium debuff as well bcoz the defender shouldn't be able to attack their minds
    Delirium Node and Delirium Debuff are not the same thing. Magneto is not immune to Negative's corruption, period.
  • Player_SlasherPlayer_Slasher Member Posts: 156 ★★
    Raichu626 said:

    AMS94 said:

    Magneto isnt reverse control immune and never was. He’s physic shielding meaning he’s immune to abilities that explicitly mention physic shielding champs ignoring said abilities. Take Emma Frost’s awakened ability for example:

    “When Emma uses a special attack, the opponents controls are reversed until just after the end of the attack. This will not trigger when fighting an opponent with #Physic Shielding”

    Delirium itself is a mental/psychic attack ability like Emma's....u'd know if u remember the delirium node from 6.1.6 & map 7 which doesn't affect robots & champs with psychic shielding
    Delirium is a medical term & is linked with confusion due to mental issues
    So technically since magneto, stryfe, juggernaut etc & robots are immune to delirium node in mcoc, they should be immune to delirium debuff as well bcoz the defender shouldn't be able to attack their minds
    Delirium Node and Delirium Debuff are not the same thing. Magneto is not immune to Negative's corruption, period.
    Word.

    Having #Psychic Shielding tag does not make you immune to reversed controls. So champs like Magneto, Juggs, Stryfe etc. will still be affected by Delirium.

    Champs that are actually immune to reversed controls: Prof X, Sinister, Emma (synergy w/ Mysterio), Mysterio (synergy w/ Emma). These champs or Disorient will shut down Delirium.

    Again, only these champs are actually immune to the Delirium Debuff.
  • NasDSlayerNasDSlayer Member Posts: 39
    Some people ignore the reality. The corruption of the negative, to have an effect, affects the opponent's mind. And as long as the magneto is wearing his helmet, he will be immune to any mental attack. Juggernaut is the same.
    There are players who ignore reality. Ghost Rider suffered insineration for years, until kabam corrected his mistake. And because of many, the magneto will likely suffer from this corruption until the kabam corrects the error.
    If the blow affects the mind, the magneto while wearing his helmet is immune. Regardless of how the opponent moves. And the kabam goes against the facts.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,095 ★★★★★
    edited May 2021

    Some people ignore the reality.

    This is a game. Based on a fictional universe.
    It is supposed to be anything but real.

    Also, comic lore is close to irrelevant here. Don't create arguments based on sources that are not the game


  • Iron_Patriot_is_litIron_Patriot_is_lit Member Posts: 1,860 ★★★★★
    Some people ignore the reality that there is no issue to fix here.
  • AMS94AMS94 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★★
    Raichu626 said:

    AMS94 said:

    Magneto isnt reverse control immune and never was. He’s physic shielding meaning he’s immune to abilities that explicitly mention physic shielding champs ignoring said abilities. Take Emma Frost’s awakened ability for example:

    “When Emma uses a special attack, the opponents controls are reversed until just after the end of the attack. This will not trigger when fighting an opponent with #Physic Shielding”

    Delirium itself is a mental/psychic attack ability like Emma's....u'd know if u remember the delirium node from 6.1.6 & map 7 which doesn't affect robots & champs with psychic shielding
    Delirium is a medical term & is linked with confusion due to mental issues
    So technically since magneto, stryfe, juggernaut etc & robots are immune to delirium node in mcoc, they should be immune to delirium debuff as well bcoz the defender shouldn't be able to attack their minds
    Delirium Node and Delirium Debuff are not the same thing. Magneto is not immune to Negative's corruption, period.
    That's like saying a node that applies passive shock like EMP mod & a champ that applies shock debuff should have different interactions with a champ that's completely immune to shock like Doom or Thing
    The word to be given emphasis is "delirium", not node or debuff
    People saying that comic book logics shouldn't be considered in this game bcoz Kabam often doesn't follow such logics are saying that bcoz Kabam already makes some mistakes, we should ignore any new mistakes as well
    And this isn't even a comic book thing only....even in MCOC universe Magneto has been immune to delirium effect till now
    Same word shouldn't have different interactions in a game even if we ignore the actual logical reasoning
    We already had the active & passive thing that allowed Kabam to get away with many things...... it'll be better if we don't start having different interactions fr similar nodes & debuffs as well bcoz it cn backfire very quickly in near future
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